Zach Collins and his return to the Blazers: ‘I’m definitely not rushing back’

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By Jason Quick

It was Monday night, around 9 p.m., when Zach Collins was descending into Portland International Airport, his mind racing with thoughts.

It was the first time the Trail Blazers’ 7-footer had been back in Oregon since December, when he left Portland to have a second surgery on his left ankle in Indianapolis. For the past five weeks, he had been recovering at his parents’ home in Las Vegas, but now, it was time to return to work and begin his rehabilitation. As his flight lowered over the Columbia River, he couldn’t contain his excitement.

“I’m geeked to be back,” Collins told The Athletic. “It’s not all going to happen at once, and obviously I’m not going to be playing a game tomorrow, but I just know the process is starting. It sounds simple, but just to sweat, and workout, and feel sore the next day, that does so much for me mentally.”

Collins on Tuesday had his cast removed and he hopes to begin his comeback later this week at the Blazers’ practice facility once he clears COVID-19 testing and protocols. He said his return is estimated between 4-to-6 months, and while he says his goal is to play again this season, he emphasizes that he will be extra careful with this recovery.

“I’m definitely not rushing back; I can’t afford to go through this again,” Collins said.

This will be his third rehabilitation in the last 15 months, during which he has played 11 games — three at the start of last season, before he needed surgery to repair a separated left shoulder, and eight in the Orlando bubble before needing surgery to repair a hairline medial malleolus stress fracture in his left ankle.

That Sept. 1 ankle surgery was supposed to have him back on the court in mid-January, but on Dec. 11, as the team was preparing to play its first preseason game, he suffered a setback in his private workout.

“I didn’t come down on it wrong, I didn’t get hit, I wasn’t going live. It was just one of those things where after a workout it was sore,” Collins said. “I thought maybe it was because that day it was the most I had done in a long time.”

But the soreness lasted throughout the next week, even as the team stopped his on-court workouts and relegated him to only lifting weights and riding the exercise bike. He accompanied the team to Denver for two exhibition games, and with the pain still present, the team scheduled imaging on the joint when it returned to Portland on Dec. 19. The hairline fracture that was repaired in September had become broken again. Only this time, the fracture was larger.

“The bone wasn’t ready for the load that we had put on it,” Collins said. “With these surgeries, they told me there is a 10 percent chance they don’t work, or something could go wrong in rehab. Long story short, it was just a very unlucky situation.”

Collins spent the next 10 days getting second opinions and trying to understand what went wrong.

“I had a million questions on why it went bad,” Collins said. “I had to do my due diligence.”

He settled on a Dec. 30 procedure with Dr. David Porter, the same doctor who performed his first surgery.

“My doctor said the fact that it is a bigger fracture is actually good because the body adjusts and heals better when it knows there’s a break,” Collins said.

Still, there was nothing that could sugarcoat reality. After sitting out nearly all of last season, he was staring another lost season in the face. Even worse: his contract ends in June.

It was like a kick to the groin.

“Nah. Worse than that,” Collins said. “It was like five or six kicks. It was rough, bro. You know, my life is basketball as far as what I like to do, and where I put all my energy and focus, and to go back on the court and get hurt again was very frustrating.

“And the thing is, this whole rehab process I felt like I had a really good routine. I had a good grip on how I was eating, how I was sleeping, how I was attacking the rehab. And for it to just go bad … that was the most frustrating thing. I did a lot of good things, was very regimented, and it just went bad.”

And that’s why he said he felt “rejuvenated” as he descended through the nighttime sky and into Portland. His chance to flip a bad story was about to start. He couldn’t wait to sweat. Couldn’t wait to see his teammates. And he couldn’t wait to show he has the heart and the mind to be an impact player.

Collins will become a free agent this offseason, and he will do so as a largely unproven commodity. He is 23, and if he doesn’t play in the regular season, he will have appeared in 154 games in four seasons, with career averages of 5.7 points and 4.0 rebounds.

The belief is that Neil Olshey, the Blazers’ president of basketball operations, remains high on Collins. Olshey traded the 15th and 20th overall picks in the 2017 draft to move up to No. 10 to select Collins.

After the season, the Blazers will have to decide whether to make a $7.4 million qualifying offer to Collins to make him a restricted free agent. If they make the qualifying offer, they will have the right to match any offer from another team. Collins says he loves Portland, and wants to return, but adds that his impending free-agent status is the least of his concerns.

“I have to control what I can control,” he said. “When it comes to that (contract) stuff, it’s about what I’ve done already, what type of person I am, and how I go about my rehab every day and what they see in that. I know what type of player that I’m going to be. And I know what kind of player I am, obviously when healthy. I’m not too worried about the contract thing. I know that when I get to the court and I’m healthy and I play consistently, all that money stuff is going to work out and take care of itself.”

He said he has been kept out of the loop if there have been any indications from Portland about his future.

“I don’t get the vibe that the team gave up on me, at all,” Collins said. “None of that. We haven’t had talks behind closed doors about what it’s going to be. Maybe my agent has, but he usually keeps me away from that stuff until the time comes. So, you know, I’m not too worried about it. What I’m worried about is getting back and getting my body right so I can go out there and play.”

His first steps back will be later this week, when he will begin with sitting in a chair and working on his form shooting and his ballhandling. He is in a boot and is still another week away from being able to be load-bearing on the left ankle. He said if there has been a noticeable benefit to his first rehab stint with the ankle it was how the seated drills improved his ballhandling.

“The first time I was able to get back on the court, my handle felt so much tighter,” Collins said. “So I’m definitely going to continue to do that.”

In December, before he refractured the ankle, he said he had ramped his workouts to 20-to-30 minutes, which included defensive slides, dunker work (catching passes and going up to dunk), and a lot of shooting. He was also running on the Alter-G anti-gravity treadmill, using 90 percent of his body weight.

“The first time I went through this, I was very adamant about doing more and more stuff every day,” Collins said. “I listened to the trainers and coaches, but my attitude was very much ‘I want to get back as early as possible.’ This time I’m going to have a mindset of taking it day-by-day, and not really killing myself with the thought of ‘If I don’t come back early, then this whole thing is a failure.’ I don’t want to do that this time.”

As Collins watched the Blazers this season at his parents’ home in Las Vegas — all while being mindful to keep his left foot elevated — he agonized at the team’s struggles, both with health and with defense.

But he says in his month with the team before his surgery, he picked up on something about this group that was different from last season. It’s an intangible, something he can’t necessarily put his finger on.

“I just think this team, once we are healthy and once we get our bearings, I think we are going to be really good, and I wouldn’t be able to say that about last year’s team,” Collins said. “I think this year, I really like the vibe of this team, and I like the people we have. We just have to weather the storm. Obviously, it’s frustrating now, and I’m not saying we don’t have to get better — we definitely do — but these times, when it literally feels like the end of the world … that’s part of the season. Every team goes through things. It’s part of the journey.”

His own journey is once again beginning, and as daunting as the work is ahead of him, he couldn’t contain his excitement as he looked out the airplane window and saw the familiar lights of Portland approaching. When the tires screeched on the runway, he knew he was about to author the next chapter of his life, a life he hopes continues to flourish in Portland.

“Touching down, there was a realization that now it starts again,” Collins said. “It was just a feeling of excitement. And I like Portland a lot, away from basketball. I’m comfortable here, I like my lifestyle here, I like my setup.

“This is where I’ve called home even more than Vegas for the last four years. I was just very happy to be here. It just feels like this is where I belong.”

https://theathletic.com/2363747/2021/02/03/zach-collins-and-his-return-to-the-blazers-im-definitely-not-rushing-back
 
tldr, he's arrived in PDX and he's getting the boot off this week - he will start working out shortly thereafter. He hopes to make it back before the end of the season, but as his fracture is in the same place as his last ankle fracture, he's going to be more cautious.

By Jason Quick

It was Monday night, around 9 p.m., when Zach Collins was descending into Portland International Airport, his mind racing with thoughts.

It was the first time the Trail Blazers’ 7-footer had been back in Oregon since December, when he left Portland to have a second surgery on his left ankle in Indianapolis. For the past five weeks, he had been recovering at his parents’ home in Las Vegas, but now, it was time to return to work and begin his rehabilitation. As his flight lowered over the Columbia River, he couldn’t contain his excitement.

“I’m geeked to be back,” Collins told The Athletic. “It’s not all going to happen at once, and obviously I’m not going to be playing a game tomorrow, but I just know the process is starting. It sounds simple, but just to sweat, and workout, and feel sore the next day, that does so much for me mentally.”

Collins on Tuesday had his cast removed and he hopes to begin his comeback later this week at the Blazers’ practice facility once he clears COVID-19 testing and protocols. He said his return is estimated between 4-to-6 months, and while he says his goal is to play again this season, he emphasizes that he will be extra careful with this recovery.

“I’m definitely not rushing back; I can’t afford to go through this again,” Collins said.

This will be his third rehabilitation in the last 15 months, during which he has played 11 games — three at the start of last season, before he needed surgery to repair a separated left shoulder, and eight in the Orlando bubble before needing surgery to repair a hairline medial malleolus stress fracture in his left ankle.

That Sept. 1 ankle surgery was supposed to have him back on the court in mid-January, but on Dec. 11, as the team was preparing to play its first preseason game, he suffered a setback in his private workout.

“I didn’t come down on it wrong, I didn’t get hit, I wasn’t going live. It was just one of those things where after a workout it was sore,” Collins said. “I thought maybe it was because that day it was the most I had done in a long time.”

But the soreness lasted throughout the next week, even as the team stopped his on-court workouts and relegated him to only lifting weights and riding the exercise bike. He accompanied the team to Denver for two exhibition games, and with the pain still present, the team scheduled imaging on the joint when it returned to Portland on Dec. 19. The hairline fracture that was repaired in September had become broken again. Only this time, the fracture was larger.

“The bone wasn’t ready for the load that we had put on it,” Collins said. “With these surgeries, they told me there is a 10 percent chance they don’t work, or something could go wrong in rehab. Long story short, it was just a very unlucky situation.”

Collins spent the next 10 days getting second opinions and trying to understand what went wrong.

“I had a million questions on why it went bad,” Collins said. “I had to do my due diligence.”

He settled on a Dec. 30 procedure with Dr. David Porter, the same doctor who performed his first surgery.

“My doctor said the fact that it is a bigger fracture is actually good because the body adjusts and heals better when it knows there’s a break,” Collins said.

Still, there was nothing that could sugarcoat reality. After sitting out nearly all of last season, he was staring another lost season in the face. Even worse: his contract ends in June.

It was like a kick to the groin.

“Nah. Worse than that,” Collins said. “It was like five or six kicks. It was rough, bro. You know, my life is basketball as far as what I like to do, and where I put all my energy and focus, and to go back on the court and get hurt again was very frustrating.

“And the thing is, this whole rehab process I felt like I had a really good routine. I had a good grip on how I was eating, how I was sleeping, how I was attacking the rehab. And for it to just go bad … that was the most frustrating thing. I did a lot of good things, was very regimented, and it just went bad.”

And that’s why he said he felt “rejuvenated” as he descended through the nighttime sky and into Portland. His chance to flip a bad story was about to start. He couldn’t wait to sweat. Couldn’t wait to see his teammates. And he couldn’t wait to show he has the heart and the mind to be an impact player.

Collins will become a free agent this offseason, and he will do so as a largely unproven commodity. He is 23, and if he doesn’t play in the regular season, he will have appeared in 154 games in four seasons, with career averages of 5.7 points and 4.0 rebounds.

The belief is that Neil Olshey, the Blazers’ president of basketball operations, remains high on Collins. Olshey traded the 15th and 20th overall picks in the 2017 draft to move up to No. 10 to select Collins.

After the season, the Blazers will have to decide whether to make a $7.4 million qualifying offer to Collins to make him a restricted free agent. If they make the qualifying offer, they will have the right to match any offer from another team. Collins says he loves Portland, and wants to return, but adds that his impending free-agent status is the least of his concerns.

“I have to control what I can control,” he said. “When it comes to that (contract) stuff, it’s about what I’ve done already, what type of person I am, and how I go about my rehab every day and what they see in that. I know what type of player that I’m going to be. And I know what kind of player I am, obviously when healthy. I’m not too worried about the contract thing. I know that when I get to the court and I’m healthy and I play consistently, all that money stuff is going to work out and take care of itself.”

He said he has been kept out of the loop if there have been any indications from Portland about his future.

“I don’t get the vibe that the team gave up on me, at all,” Collins said. “None of that. We haven’t had talks behind closed doors about what it’s going to be. Maybe my agent has, but he usually keeps me away from that stuff until the time comes. So, you know, I’m not too worried about it. What I’m worried about is getting back and getting my body right so I can go out there and play.”

His first steps back will be later this week, when he will begin with sitting in a chair and working on his form shooting and his ballhandling. He is in a boot and is still another week away from being able to be load-bearing on the left ankle. He said if there has been a noticeable benefit to his first rehab stint with the ankle it was how the seated drills improved his ballhandling.

“The first time I was able to get back on the court, my handle felt so much tighter,” Collins said. “So I’m definitely going to continue to do that.”

In December, before he refractured the ankle, he said he had ramped his workouts to 20-to-30 minutes, which included defensive slides, dunker work (catching passes and going up to dunk), and a lot of shooting. He was also running on the Alter-G anti-gravity treadmill, using 90 percent of his body weight.

“The first time I went through this, I was very adamant about doing more and more stuff every day,” Collins said. “I listened to the trainers and coaches, but my attitude was very much ‘I want to get back as early as possible.’ This time I’m going to have a mindset of taking it day-by-day, and not really killing myself with the thought of ‘If I don’t come back early, then this whole thing is a failure.’ I don’t want to do that this time.”

As Collins watched the Blazers this season at his parents’ home in Las Vegas — all while being mindful to keep his left foot elevated — he agonized at the team’s struggles, both with health and with defense.

But he says in his month with the team before his surgery, he picked up on something about this group that was different from last season. It’s an intangible, something he can’t necessarily put his finger on.

“I just think this team, once we are healthy and once we get our bearings, I think we are going to be really good, and I wouldn’t be able to say that about last year’s team,” Collins said. “I think this year, I really like the vibe of this team, and I like the people we have. We just have to weather the storm. Obviously, it’s frustrating now, and I’m not saying we don’t have to get better — we definitely do — but these times, when it literally feels like the end of the world … that’s part of the season. Every team goes through things. It’s part of the journey.”

His own journey is once again beginning, and as daunting as the work is ahead of him, he couldn’t contain his excitement as he looked out the airplane window and saw the familiar lights of Portland approaching. When the tires screeched on the runway, he knew he was about to author the next chapter of his life, a life he hopes continues to flourish in Portland.

“Touching down, there was a realization that now it starts again,” Collins said. “It was just a feeling of excitement. And I like Portland a lot, away from basketball. I’m comfortable here, I like my lifestyle here, I like my setup.

“This is where I’ve called home even more than Vegas for the last four years. I was just very happy to be here. It just feels like this is where I belong.”

https://theathletic.com/2363747/2021/02/03/zach-collins-and-his-return-to-the-blazers-im-definitely-not-rushing-back
 
tldr, he's arrived in PDX and he's getting the boot off this week - he will start working out shortly thereafter. He hopes to make it back before the end of the season, but as his fracture is in the same place as his last ankle fracture, he's going to be more cautious.

You should work for Cliffs Notes.
 
So many questions...

Why go back to the same doctor?

Why is the team not doing regular, follow-up imaging during rehab of these multi-million dollar investments?

Why wait 2 months to start doing seated ball handling drills?

If they're really just having guys sit on the couch for a couple months until being cleared to resume activities, it's easy to see how patterns might be developing with recurring injuries. Can't put weight on your foot? Do crunches and curls like a madman... His comment about finally being able to work up a sweat is concerning. You can't let yourself get out of shape like that and expect to not have setbacks when jumping back in.
 
So many questions...

Why go back to the same doctor?

Why is the team not doing regular, follow-up imaging during rehab of these multi-million dollar investments?

Why wait 2 months to start doing seated ball handling drills?

If they're really just having guys sit on the couch for a couple months until being cleared to resume activities, it's easy to see how patterns might be developing with recurring injuries. Can't put weight on your foot? Do crunches and curls like a madman... His comment about finally being able to work up a sweat is concerning. You can't let yourself get out of shape like that and expect to not have setbacks when jumping back in.

regarding the working out..it could be something about weight distribution. You don’t want to come back and be heavier on the ankle. Just a guess
 
We need to dump this guy. This is not the time for diamond hands. Zach Collins isn't going to the moon.

No one is going to pay him much more than the minimum. Big men with foot problems is a huge red flag. Having said that I wouldn't dump him. I would roll the dice and resign him like any other guy on the end of our bench. My guess is he will get a one-year contract from someone to see if he can get healthy. A small contract won't hurt us. We need 14 players. Just don't rely on him to be in the 2-deep...until he is.
 
No one is going to pay him much more than the minimum. Big men with foot problems is a huge red flag. Having said that I wouldn't dump him. I would roll the dice and resign him like any other guy on the end of our bench. My guess is he will get a one-year contract from someone to see if he can get healthy. A small contract won't hurt us. We need 14 players. Just don't rely on him to be in the 2-deep...until he is.

I would wager he gets more than the minimum from other teams. He's still very young and a lottery pick.
 
regarding the working out..it could be something about weight distribution. You don’t want to come back and be heavier on the ankle. Just a guess

The type of early rehab work you do while seated is little more than cardio, e.g., not something that's likely to bulk you up.

The only reason I can see for complete rest during those early stages is to allow the body to put all its energy into healing fast. I'd have a hard time buying that theory for that long of a period, though, and especially so in light of the failure to heal the first time around. It's eerily reminiscent of Oden's MF surgery and the general feeling that he was left on his own most of that first year. Why we've reverted back to that sort of medical oversight after a very healthy period (different leadership) in between is beyond me.
 
Yeah, you are probably right if he goes through some strenuous workouts for various teams...and can still walk afterward.
Regardless I would keep him if the price is right.

The problem that I'm seeing is that we keep putting all our faith in a few guys who keep getting hurt. Specifically Zach and Nurk. So when they get hurt our season is fucked.
 
No one is going to pay him much more than the minimum, except for Neil Olshey. Big men with foot problems is a huge red flag. Having said that I wouldn't dump him. I would roll the dice and resign him like any other guy on the end of our bench. My guess is he will get a one-year contract from someone to see if he can get healthy. A small contract won't hurt us. We need 14 players. Just don't rely on him to be in the 2-deep...until he is.
Zach is going to get a 4-yr/$55-M contract..... :beatinto:
 
The problem that I'm seeing is that we keep putting all our faith in a few guys who keep getting hurt. Specifically Zach and Nurk. So when they get hurt our season is fucked.

I hear what you are saying but I would not say Neil put all his faith in those two, he did add Kanter, and to a lesser extent....Giles. Maybe not the starters we need, but at least he didn't leave the cupboard completely bare.

But things change, it is now more obvious that one of them might be worth the risk, but relying on both is not the way to go. However, if we can resign Zach at a very cheap contract you are not really relying on him. Treat him as a 3 string big man.
 
So many questions...

Why go back to the same doctor?

Why is the team not doing regular, follow-up imaging during rehab of these multi-million dollar investments?

Why wait 2 months to start doing seated ball handling drills?

If they're really just having guys sit on the couch for a couple months until being cleared to resume activities, it's easy to see how patterns might be developing with recurring injuries. Can't put weight on your foot? Do crunches and curls like a madman... His comment about finally being able to work up a sweat is concerning. You can't let yourself get out of shape like that and expect to not have setbacks when jumping back in.
After a surgery, especially a second one for something like this the doctors probably had him basically on bed rest so he could have complete immobilization. No one does follow up imaging right after a surgery, all that would show is that the surgery happened. The doctor is probably the best there is at this surgery. I really doubt that this is being done wrong. I've been through a lot of rehabs for a recurring sports injury and this sounds right to me. If you're an orthopedic surgeon or a sports medicine doctor then you would know more than me though.
 
We need to dump this guy. This is not the time for diamond hands. Zach Collins isn't going to the moon.
How likely do you think that is from Neil "Never Give Up On A Bad Idea" Olshey. The guy is so stubborn and sold on his initial evaluation that he'll probably bid against himself and give Zach a three year thirty million extension.
 
After a surgery, especially a second one for something like this the doctors probably had him basically on bed rest so he could have complete immobilization.

Immobilizing the ankle isn't tough. Bed rest should only be necessary when there's no oversight to keep the person honest. Maybe they deserve a little break for the pandemic limiting how much oversight is possible.

No one does follow up imaging right after a surgery, all that would show is that the surgery happened.

Not right after, during rehab ... to verify it's actually healed and not fracturing worse. It's difficult to differentiate between a fracture about to happen and one that is healing, but comparison images down the road should highlight any changes.

The doctor is probably the best there is at this surgery. I really doubt that this is being done wrong.

I'm results oriented. The results suggest otherwise.
 
Immobilizing the ankle isn't tough. Bed rest should only be necessary when there's no oversight to keep the person honest. Maybe they deserve a little break for the pandemic limiting how much oversight is possible.



Not right after, during rehab ... to verify it's actually healed and not fracturing worse. It's difficult to differentiate between a fracture about to happen and one that is healing, but comparison images down the road should highlight any changes.



I'm results oriented. The results suggest otherwise.
Immobilizing any injury would be tough if Zach has been pushing things to the limit in the past. They put a fucking cast on it, do you know how rare that is for an ankle?

So we're in agreement that no imaging should have been done to this point because rehab just started.

Not that this is a great thing to be thinking about but I don't think Grant Hill had bad doctors or training staffs, so results don't always point to incompetency in orthopedics.
 
We need to dump this guy. This is not the time for diamond hands. Zach Collins isn't going to the moon.
I have no idea what this means, other than you are frustrated.

Are you suggesting we release him at the end of the season?
Give him QO, and look for trade partners?
Don't give him QO and look for trade partners?

I also don't know what "diamond hands" are? Is that like kit gloves?
 
I also don't know what "diamond hands" are? Is that like kit gloves?

this should explain it for you:

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I have no idea what this means, other than you are frustrated.

Are you suggesting we release him at the end of the season?
Give him QO, and look for trade partners?
Don't give him QO and look for trade partners?

I also don't know what "diamond hands" are? Is that like kit gloves?

Reddit Wall Street Bets slang, Diamond Hands means hold the stock, don't sell.
 
If Meyers Leonard can roll out of bed and keep getting $10M a year contracts, Zach is going to get more than the minimum or close to it, and more than one year. I think he'll probably be healthy this summer, be doing workouts, film it like everyone else to show how hard workign they are, his agent will talk to teams and they will offer him a decent deal. Portland probably will low ball him, and he will leave.
 
PS: I would absolutely bring him back for a decent price. Would not overpay him of course, but he is still so young. I think guys who are still at an age that College juniors and seniors should be kept (Simons, Collins, etc).
 
If Meyers Leonard can roll out of bed and keep getting $10M a year contracts, Zach is going to get more than the minimum or close to it, and more than one year. I think he'll probably be healthy this summer, be doing workouts, film it like everyone else to show how hard workign they are, his agent will talk to teams and they will offer him a decent deal. Portland probably will low ball him, and he will leave.

Well, you make some good points. However, I will be stunned if Zach gets Meyers's money after not playing for two straight years.
But I think you are right, Portland will low ball him and he will leave.
 
Well, you make some good points. However, I will be stunned if Zach gets Meyers's money after not playing for two straight years.
But I think you are right, Portland will low ball him and he will leave.

Meyers should never have gotten Meyers money.
 

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