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bodyman5001 said:
How nice of you advanced creatures to at least let him post here. I mean, people can't think that advancing homosexuality is wrong without being close minded rednecks. :crazy:
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pretty much. Homosexuality is a part of life. Get used to it. If gay people want to be gay, let them be gay.
 
zagsfan20 said:
pretty much. Homosexuality is a part of life. Get used to it. If gay people want to be gay, let them be gay.
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ADVANCING was the important part.

I am fat, and I don't want to be discriminated for being so. I don't think it is wrong that other people think that being overweight is a bad thing.

I sure as hell think that people like NAAFA go too far in trying to promote their lifestyle by pretending that morbidly obese people are just as healthy as your average person. BULLSHIT.
 
Shooter said:
Child abuse is also a part of life. Should we try to get used to that?
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Morons on internet boards are DEFINITELY a part of life. Should we try to get used to that?

This is fun - your turn.

I forget - was this supposed to have something to do with homosexuality? Which has nothing to do with children being harmed? I'm sure it wasn't important.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I forget - was this supposed to have something to do with homosexuality? Which has nothing to do with children being harmed? I'm sure it wasn't important.
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Oh! I know this one! A co-worker at the assembly line I worked at in 2006 told me! Check it:

Homosexuals want marriage so they can legally adopt children as sex slaves!

(btw, I never laughed so hard as I did right after he said that -- without a trace of irony)
 
Shooter said:
Child abuse is also a part of life. Should we try to get used to that?
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Much like an earlier comparison to barn animals (not done by you), your equating homosexuality to child abuse (as you are so slyly doing here) is incredibly offensive and ignorant. I would like to pose a question to you (and to anyone who thinks this was a good point).

Is child abuse an act that takes place between two consenting adults?

It's not? Ok, so why do you feel that responding to the claim that homosexuality is part of life, that "child abuse is also a part of life" as though it's a good counter punch?

Do you really think that is a good analogy?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I forget - was this supposed to have something to do with homosexuality? Which has nothing to do with children being harmed?
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You completely missed the point, but thanks for playing. Homosexuality and child abuse are two kinds of behavior that societies throughout time have condemmed. If we're supposed to "get used" to one, why not the other? Or why not any kind of deviant behavior? Hey, let's just throw everything out the window and say "anything goes!" Yeah, that's the way to destroy a culture overnight.
 
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julius said:
Is child abuse an act that takes place between two consenting adults?
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What if two adults want to torture each other, or shoot each other up with heroin, or stand on the street and throw feces at each other? I guess all of that is good for society, as long as people are doing what they want to . . .
 
Shooter said:
What if two adults want to torture each other, or shoot each other up with heroin, or stand on the street and throw feces at each other? I guess all of that is good for society, as long as people are doing what they want to . . .
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I've read a few of your posts, and I'm beginning to think that you are incapable of being able to string together two segments of logical thought.

So now you're comparing the love and affection between two men or women (it's not all about sex you know) with throwing shit at each other, or shooting each other up with heroin (an illegal substance)?

Answer this honestly. And not in a "I'm going to change the subject" way too.

Why do you honestly care if two women love each other, and have sexual contact between them? Or two men?

Does it really bother you that two men or two women want to live together and are in love?

It seems that you wish to make the activity of homosexuality illegal. So, if we make the sexual contact between two women and two men illegal, that rules out oral sex and anal sex. And I'm sure there are plenty of men and women who enjoy both oral sex and occasionally anal sex. If you want to make it so homosexuals can't adopt children (because of the "two parents" issue or the "not natural child rearing" issue), then I suggest that we make it so people who can't have children who are straight, not allowed to have children too. And if you're a single mom, you shouldn't be allowed to keep your child, or adopt one.

Why does it bother you so much? If you don't like anal sex with another man, don't have it. If you don't like oral sex between two men or two women, don't have it. If you don't like the act of sexual relations between gays or lesbians, don't have it.

If you try to equate the act between two consenting adults with drug use, or shit flingers or bestiality or child abuse/pedophilia, you are pretty ignorant.

If you want to say that it's because of biblical reasons, I hope to (your) God you have never had sex before marriage, or outside of marriage, or lusted over anyone.

Just seems like a waste of energy to me. Why does it matter to you if Nathan Lane and his boyfriend have sex?
 
julius said:
Why does it matter to you if Nathan Lane and his boyfriend have sex?
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It doesn't. As long as they do it behind closed doors, and don't push it in my face, it's okay with me. What is NOT okay is when homosexuals try to push their deviant behavior on the rest of society, in the form of laws that sanction their behavior and make it legal for them to marry, or books like "Johnnny Has Two Daddies," or anything that gloriifes and celebrates their behavior.
 
Shooter said:
It doesn't. As long as they do it behind closed doors, and don't push it in my face, it's okay with me. What is NOT okay is when homosexuals try to push their deviant behavior on the rest of society, in the form of laws that sanction their behavior and make it legal for them to marry, or books like "Johnnny Has Two Daddies," or anything that gloriifes and celebrates their behavior.
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You mean how it "gloriifes" (sic) the love that two people have for each other and their child?

I can see why you want to get rid of that. What child needs loving parents, right?
 
Julius you must remember when arguing with someone with the "good" book behind them you can't win because a book changed to meet the needs of kings can't be wrong.
 
what about a book tittled " daddy likes to do mommy from behind" is that ok because it's mommy and daddy doing it.
 
The comforting thing is, for all the resistance from religious bigots and "traditionalists," it's pretty obvious that they're doomed to end up on the wrong side of history. The trend within the country and the trend in the democratic world at large makes it very obvious that eventually gay marriage and adoption by gay couples will be standard part of American society.

A hundred years from now, people will look back on the people who oppose gay marriage in today's society with the same sense of baffled tragedy as people today look back on racists who opposed interracial marriage.
 
Somebody tell me who the hell zach addy is? I have seen pictures of the guy on BF but he looks kind of girly..
 
Shooter said:
You completely missed the point, but thanks for playing. Homosexuality and child abuse are two kinds of behavior that societies throughout time have condemmed. If we're supposed to "get used" to one, why not the other? Or why not any kind of deviant behavior? Hey, let's just throw everything out the window and say "anything goes!" Yeah, that's the way to destroy a culture overnight.
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Societies have, throughout time, given women unequal treatment. Societies have, throughout time, been oppressive monarchies and dictatorships. Societies have, throughout time, enslaved others. Societies have throughout time, started holy wars.

Should I go on?
 
Minstrel said:
For all the resistance from religious bigots and "traditionalists," it's pretty obvious that they're doomed to end up on the wrong side of history. The trend within the country and the trend in the democratic world at large makes it very obvious that eventually gay marriage and adoption by gay couples will be standard part of American society.
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Yep, I'm afraid you're right. This country has turned its back on many of its traditional values, and it's a sad state of affairs. We're going the way of the Roman Empire, with more and more degradation every passing day.
 
I'm an old fart and have seen and heard a lot of stuff. I'm a redneck that (ain't) is not a bigot. This is a basketball forum. Posters are from all walks and life styles. Don't come in here and bash anybody. If you are that offended by people who post on here, don't come here. Some of the better posts come from people you are dissing. :tsktsk:
 
Shooter said:
Yep, I'm afraid you're right. This country has turned its back on many of its traditional values, and it's a sad state of affairs. We're going the way of the Roman Empire, with more and more degradation every passing day.
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A lot of our "traditional" values included slavery, bigotry, women not being allowed to vote and taking over another peoples country and inflicting them with diseases that their immunity systems weren't capable of overcoming.

Some tradition.
 
Shooter said:
It doesn't. As long as they do it behind closed doors, and don't push it in my face, it's okay with me. What is NOT okay is when homosexuals try to push their deviant behavior on the rest of society, in the form of laws that sanction their behavior and make it legal for them to marry, or books like "Johnnny Has Two Daddies," or anything that gloriifes and celebrates their behavior.
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Deviant behavior?

I guess Talkhard/Shooter is pretty much an expert on the subject, so maybe he's right? :dunno:

Maybe we can find the answer on his webpage:

http://www.talkhard.5u.com/

:tsktsk:
 
It may just be me but shouldn't this thread be renamed and move to the OT/Politics forum?

I come here for basketball not to see people bashing each other. I avoid the OT forum as I get enough of that already. I come here for basketball.

Gramps...
 
To me, the irony in all of this is that crandc got just what she was after....a long discussion of her agenda (which she claims doesn't exist.) All of you that are fussing over this are just helping out.

As someone else said, just get over it.
 
Minstrel said:
The comforting thing is, for all the resistance from religious bigots and "traditionalists," it's pretty obvious that they're doomed to end up on the wrong side of history. The trend within the country and the trend in the democratic world at large makes it very obvious that eventually gay marriage and adoption by gay couples will be standard part of American society.

A hundred years from now, people will look back on the people who oppose gay marriage in today's society with the same sense of baffled tragedy as people today look back on racists who opposed interracial marriage.
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Personally, I hope that part isn't true. I don't have a problem with gay couples, but I think it would be wrong for them to raise children. Call me old-fashioned, a bigot, or whatever, but I think that's wrong.
 
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