06/30/15 Lowe Post (2 Viewers)

[magnifier661]

You're right

I'm sure Aldridge has no idea about the moves Olshey has made and the players he has acquired

........

He knows exactly who is on the team and he knows it isn't a contender

Glad you aren't a fucktard. That would suck

But you still have issues with thinking you know what other people are thinking.

So since you know, which players will we finally have to present to Aldridge? I mean you say you already know

 

[Scalma]

Only a low down fucktard fool would believe the players we have now will be the pieces we present to Aldridge.

What are you going to do if aldridge signs elsewhere and our team stays relatively the same minus an aminu or two?

 

[magnifier661]

What are you going to do if aldridge signs elsewhere and our team stays relatively the same minus an aminu or two?

Eat crow?

 

[RoyToy]

Glad you aren't a fucktard. That would suck

But you still have issues with thinking you know what other people are thinking.

So since you know, which players will we finally have to present to Aldridge? I mean you say you already know

The lack of logic in the majority of your posts is truly astounding

 

[Minstrel]

Bro, we were tied with GS for best record at one point of the season. And for a while, we were ahead of Memphis and Houston, dangling at 2nd in the west. You don't remember this?

When, near the very start of the season? That doesn't mean much, it hardly means they were the best team or even close to it. Using the entire sample up to the point when, say, Matthews went down, the Blazers were pretty obviously not in Golden State's league, or the Spurs or Clippers or (healthy) Cavaliers. For most of the first half of the season, the Warriors and Grizzlies were fighting for the best record, then the Grizzlies dropped off and the Spurs (and Cavaliers) took off. The Clippers and Rockets were pretty excellent from start to finish (despite the Rockets also contending with injury).

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Glad you aren't a fucktard. That would suck

But you still have issues with thinking you know what other people are thinking.

So since you know, which players will we finally have to present to Aldridge? I mean you say you already know

Bro, ease off RoyToy. He's probably still delirious after rubbing off for the past several days after Batum was dealt away.

 

[Further]

Definitely not like Howard or LBJ. That was cold as ice!!!!!

Players leave, for many reasons. They might want different management, different weather, different culture, different teammates or they might want yo move back to family or a city they came from or have a different role on their team. Just leaving isn't disrespectful. Aldridge played hard, through injury, and fulfilled his contract. He didn't demand to be traded a year after signing a fatty. He didn't badmouth the city, team or fans. He may stay, but if he leaves, so far he has done it the right way, in a stand up manner.

 

[Blazer Freak]

The lack of logic in the majority of your posts is truly astounding

I appreciate the enthusiasm...but the blatant disregard for anything even resembling logical thinking is a little troubling.

 

[magnifier661]

When, near the very start of the season? That doesn't mean much, it hardly means they were the best team or even close to it. Using the entire sample up to the point when, say, Matthews went down, the Blazers were pretty obviously not in Golden State's league, or the Spurs or Clippers or (healthy) Cavaliers. For most of the first half of the season, the Warriors and Grizzlies were fighting for the best record, then the Grizzlies dropped off and the Spurs (and Cavaliers) took off. The Clippers and Rockets were pretty excellent from start to finish (despite the Rockets also contending with injury).

Dude even during the end of March, we were neck and neck with Memphis and Houston for the 2nd seed. It was like every game we all switched places. Clippers didn't come into the picture until the end of March and took over in April.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I can see him saying something like "man we need to team up next year instead of beating up on each other".

But for him to specifically say ......."in San Antonio" is a little absurd to believe.

Here's what LaMarcus said to Marc...

 

[BlazerWookee]

When, near the very start of the season? That doesn't mean much, it hardly means they were the best team or even close to it. Using the entire sample up to the point when, say, Matthews went down, the Blazers were pretty obviously not in Golden State's league, or the Spurs or Clippers or (healthy) Cavaliers. For most of the first half of the season, the Warriors and Grizzlies were fighting for the best record, then the Grizzlies dropped off and the Spurs (and Cavaliers) took off. The Clippers and Rockets were pretty excellent from start to finish (despite the Rockets also contending with injury).

That's bollocks. We had the second best team in the West when Wes went down.

 

[e_blazer]

The Blazers were in third place in the West on March 6th when Wes went down.

1 Warriors 47 - 12
2 Grizzlies 43 - 17
3 Trail Blazers 41-19
4 Rockets 41 - 20
5 Clippers 40 - 22
6 Mavericks 40 - 23
7 Spurs 37 - 23
8 Thunder 34 - 28
9 Pelicans 33 - 28
10 Suns 32 - 30
11 Jazz 24 - 36
12 Nuggets 22 - 39
13 Kings 21 - 38
14 Lakers 16 - 44
15 Timberwolves 13 - 47

 

[e_blazer]

Olshey has had 3 seasons to put a contender on the floor to convince Aldridge to stay and as of right now he hasn't done that. The team is down 2 starters right now and possibly 3 if Rolo doesn't return.

The Blazers are a borderline playoff team even if Aldridge were to return. I doubt that makes Aldridge want to stay.

There are about nine teams in the West that are borderline playoff teams. The margin between the teams is so slim that an injury or two gets even the Warriors bounced.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

You guys are fucking ridiculous. Just read e_blazer's post and then STFU.

 

[BlazerBeav]

The Blazers were never the best team in the league. They were at best the fifth-best team in the league and only in the first half (behind the Warriors, Clippers, Rockets and Grizzlies). In the second half, the Grizzlies faded, but the Spurs and Cavaliers found their elite gear. Prior to Matthews' injury, the Blazers were probably the sixth-best in the league and fifth-best in the Western Conference.

Well, I suppose you could probably say they were on par with the Rockets prior to the injuries, so tied for fifth-best in the league and fourth-best in the conference.

San Antonio never found an elite gear. San Antonio finished below Portland in the standings and, like Portland, was bounced in the first round.

 

[Minstrel]

Dude even during the end of March, we were neck and neck with Memphis and Houston for the 2nd seed. It was like every game we all switched places. Clippers didn't come into the picture until the end of March and took over in April.

I was referring to your "tied with Golden State for the best record, therefore best team in league" thing.

Yes, in March they were pretty high in the seedings, but that's because the Spurs started slow. In the second half, they were astoundingly good. They were clearly better than the Blazers once they turned it on in the second half. Their second half point differential was rivaled only by the Warriors and second half Cavaliers.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I was referring to your "tied with Golden State for the best record, therefore best team in league" thing.

Yes, in March they were pretty high in the seedings, but that's because the Spurs started slow. In the second half, they were astoundingly good. They were clearly better than the Blazers once they turned it on in the second half. Their second half point differential was rivaled only by the Warriors and second half Cavaliers.

Pre allstar break 34-19
End of season 55-27

So their record was 21-8 = .724
Blazers record until Wes went down 41-19 = .683

difference of .041 is not CLEARLY better

 

[Minstrel]

San Antonio never found an elite gear. San Antonio finished below Portland in the standings and, like Portland, was bounced in the first round.

They finished behind the Blazers because A. they started slowly and B. division winners automatically got a top-four seed (which is changing). The Spurs still finished with a better record than the Blazers and were one win from the second seed. They got bounced by the Clippers, a far better team than the Grizzlies.

There's no question that they were playing elite basketball in the second half. That's why they were the trendiest pick to beat the Warriors in the playoffs. But their poor start did them in.

 

[Minstrel]

Pre allstar break 34-19
End of season 55-27

So their record was 21-8 = .724
Blazers record until Wes went down 41-19 = .683

difference of .041 is not CLEARLY better

Yeah, saying "second half" was lazy. I was thinking of their 21-4 finish to the season. I mean, you could argue that 25 games is too small a sample, but they were winning a lot of blow outs (including one of the Warriors). I just don't think that the Spurs team that closed the season was all that close to even the healthy Blazers. It's not that I don't think the Blazers were good, this was just one of the greatest conferences ever.

 

[Red Rooster]

What did GS and Portland have in common for most of the season, until Portland was obliterated by injury? It's something I think is a great indicator of where a team sits besides a W-L record?


Both teams were top 10 in Offense and Defense. IIRC they were the ONLY 2 teams in that category. I could be wrong, I didn't double check, just going from memory. But I just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[Minstrel]

What did GS and Portland have in common for most of the season, until Portland was obliterated by injury? It's something I think is a great indicator of where a team sits besides a W-L record?


Both teams were top 10 in Offense and Defense. IIRC they were the ONLY 2 teams in that category. I could be wrong, I didn't double check, just going from memory. But I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Well, it probably depends on how you measure offense and defense, but using ESPN's adjusted FG% (which counts the higher value for three-pointers and, I believe, factors in free throws), Golden State, Portland, San Antonio and Houston accomplished that.

There's no question Portland was a great team before the injuries. The type of team that could have been the best team in the conference at many points in NBA history. This was just a super-loaded conference.

 

[magnifier661]

Well, it probably depends on how you measure offense and defense, but using ESPN's adjusted FG% (which counts the higher value for three-pointers and, I believe, factors in free throws), Golden State, Portland, San Antonio and Houston accomplished that.

There's no question Portland was a great team before the injuries. The type of team that could have been the best team in the conference at many points in NBA history. This was just a super-loaded conference.

Without injury, they may have made it to the wcf. If that happened, I doubt anyone would say Aldridge is 99.9% bolting.

That's the entire premise of the argument. Even with Batum playing like utter shit all season, dame's slump and Aldridge's torn ligament, we were just 5 wins from being 2nd in the west. Matthews going down destroyed all of this.

So if we make adjustments to the roster, reload, and more diverse; we can be a top 3 team in the west. Then it's anyone's ballgame.

The people saying that we have no shot winning the west is ridiculous!

 

[Strenuus]

Lowe and Stein mention it in the first 5-10 minutes of the Podcast.

*facepalm*

I meant do they have fool proof audio that LMA said it. I don't give a rats ass that they said it, but, you know, the person who they are saying said it... that's the one I care about. If they don't have audio of it, then it's just hot air and bullshit.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Good episode to listen to. Speaks with Marc Stein and Lowe brings up a rumor that he said spread very quickly that Aldridge went up to Gasol during Game 3 and asked about teaming up this off-season, likely in San Antonio...

The more and more I hear about Aldridge, I hope he leaves. I don't want him back here. He just doesn't have the IT factor in his personality. Could you imagine Dame under ANY circumstance doing something like that?

Good riddance.

Sure. In 6 years when the team is still churning along without having won a championship I have no doubt that he (or anyone else at the tail-end of their career) would do such a thing.

 

[jlprk]

It's easy for agents and GMs to steer other teams by leaking false rumors. Aldridge isn't a talker (does he still stutter?) and has no history of babbling his opinions.

I'm not a big Aldridge fan, but these anti-Aldridge rumors are like Kardashian news to me. I just skip over such "news" to save time.