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magnifier661 said:
So they didn't have a clip of Aldridge saying that? Do they have other people that can confirm? Because I've heard Aldridge said to Olshey that he's staying. In fact, I believe that came from his mouth to the press.
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So let me get this straight...you are disregarding everything that people in the media are saying...but taking Olshey at his word to the media?

You're a successful businessman, correct? You're telling me you have never lied about your position to protect your assets and maintain leverage in a future business deal?

Aldridge and the Blazers lose leverage if the NBA believes he will leave the Blazers: PDX loses leverage in a potential S&T and Aldridge loses leverage in contract negotiations--if it is a forgone conclusion then teams may not want to offer him full years/$$/incentives/etc.

It's business 101 mags....
 
Scalma said:
Things change. That was a year ago. We can call him a liar but let's not act like we've never changed our minds about anything before.
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Yep, but that's the last thing we heard from LMA. Assuming he said these other things without quotes is silly.

I won't fall for any of this bullshit until Woj, Olshey or Aldridge says otherwise
 
The last thing we heard publicly from LA was a bunch of non commitment at his exit conference. He could've stated his intentions to stay but he didn't. It's not like we would've offered him less $ if he made it known.
 
Blazer Freak said:
So let me get this straight...you are disregarding everything that people in the media are saying...but taking Olshey at his word to the media?

You're a successful businessman, correct? You're telling me you have never lied about your position to protect your assets and maintain leverage in a future business deal?

Aldridge and the Blazers lose leverage if the NBA believes he will leave the Blazers: PDX loses leverage in a potential S&T and Aldridge loses leverage in contract negotiations--if it is a forgone conclusion then teams may not want to offer him full years/$$/incentives/etc.

It's business 101 mags....
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Nope, a successful businessman doesn't fall for bullshit that media who 1.) don't have a clue and flip flop, 2.) pull this from some noob assistant reporter that works for Cansuckoff, 3.) And see zero signs that Aldridge or Olshey sway towards him leaving.

Look at the assets we've got so far. That isn't a rebuild move. It's a reload tool to build around our stars. So go on and sell low and buy high. I make money doing the opposite
 
A year ago Aldridge was ready to stay in Portland for the rest of his career

Now he's non-committal and has really given no indication he plans on staying in Portland. If he was set on staying he would have made it clear.

No idea how any of that can make a person feel great about the situation
 
Scalma said:
The last thing we heard publicly from LA was a bunch of non commitment at his exit conference. He could've stated his intentions to stay but he didn't. It's not like we would've offered him less $ if he made it known.
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Well shit man. I guess LBJ is leaving too. I mean shit man he opt out!
 
magnifier661 said:
Nope, a successful businessman doesn't fall for bullshit that media who 1.) don't have a clue and flip flop, 2.) pull this from some noob assistant reporter that works for Cansuckoff, 3.) And see zero signs that Aldridge or Olshey sway towards him leaving.

Look at the assets we've got so far. That isn't a rebuild move. It's a reload tool to build around our stars. So go on and sell low and buy high. I make money doing the opposite
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Neil's moves so far fit a build around, a retool, and a rebuild situation. Don't know if you can really read into them too much yet.
 
RoyToy said:
A year ago Aldridge was ready to stay in Portland for the rest of his career

Now he's non-committal and has really given no indication he plans on staying in Portland. If he was set on staying he would have made it clear.

No idea how any of that can make a person feel great about the situation
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So fucking what?! I renegotiate with my exects and this is how things go. Maybe he wants less years? Maybe he wants to make sure Olshey is doing his due diligence like LBJ did in Cleveland. Make sure your GM is dedicated to build a winning team.
 
Scalma said:
Neil's moves so far fit a build around, a retool, and a rebuild situation. Don't know if you can really read into them too much yet.
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If it was a rebuild, Olshey should have demanded a first rounder. He would have kept the 23 and unload.

Sorry he ain't rebuilding
 
magnifier661 said:
If it was a rebuild, Olshey should have demanded a first rounder. He would have kept the 23 and unload.

Sorry he ain't rebuilding
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He got Vonleh, which is pretty much like getting a lottery pick.
 
PCmor7 said:
I'm not going to get into whether this story is true or not, but I just think it's funny, having played, how would you feel if you were in Gasol's shoes and you are in the middle of a playoff series and a guy comes up to you and essentially says, "Hey, let's ditch these good teams we're already on and play for a team we're already just as good if not better than next year." If I were a player in Gasol's position, that would pretty much make playing with the guy making that proposal the last thing I'd want to do. Why would you want to go to battle with a guy so eager to jump ship?

As far as the truth of the story, it only seems likely to me if Aldridge really had some kind of ax to grind with the Blazers. He always comes off in interviews as a pretty mellow, low-key guy. Heck, he often plays that way. If he actually did something like this, then he's a real master of changing his personality when he's being interviewed ... he should go to LA and get into acting. I just think this story seems pretty unlikely.
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Great point.
 
The biggest thing that worries me is the loss of his teammates. With the turnover in roster moving to the younger side and LMA getting older, I think it makes it easier to leave his teammates. Mostly because for the most part they will also be gone. For us to get better we need to make those changes, and I bet LMA understands that, but none the less the comfort level that we might have had is no longer a benefit.
 
blue9 said:
He also traded away our only SF for what's essentially a lottery pick.
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Which leads me to believe one of the free agents he's seeking will be a SF. And he also shed 3 mil in salary and Henderson
 
magnifier661 said:
So fucking what?! I renegotiate with my exects and this is how things go. Maybe he wants less years? Maybe he wants to make sure Olshey is doing his due diligence like LBJ did in Cleveland. Make sure your GM is dedicated to build a winning team.
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Aldridge knows what he has in Olshey. There's no "maybe" about it.

What Aldridge doesn't have is a team in Portland that's ready to contend for a championship, and that's why he'll end up in SA.
 
RoyToy said:
Aldridge knows what he has in Olshey. There's no "maybe" about it.

What Aldridge doesn't have is a team in Portland that's ready to contend for a championship, and that's why he'll end up in SA.
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Actually no. He knows what Olshey wants to do and it's entirely different to get them. If every works according to plan, I expect Aldridge to sign
 
Blazer Freak said:
Good episode to listen to. Speaks with Marc Stein and Lowe brings up a rumor that he said spread very quickly that Aldridge went up to Gasol during Game 3 and asked about teaming up this off-season, likely in San Antonio...

Good riddance.
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I can see him saying something like "man we need to team up next year instead of beating up on each other".

But for him to specifically say ......."in San Antonio" is a little absurd to believe.
 
magnifier661 said:
Which leads me to believe one of the free agents he's seeking will be a SF.
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None of which will be as good as the one we just traded away.
To say that it's clear that we're not rebuilding is just as foolish as saying there's no way LMA leaves. The moves we've made lean more towards "rebuild" than "contend NOW", but we could go in EITHER direction depending on the decisions of various free agents and other GMs.
 
magnifier661 said:
Which leads me to believe one of the free agents he's seeking will be a SF. And he also shed 3 mil in salary and Henderson
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You're just guessing though. You're no more correct than the guy that says we shed batum because we are rebuilding and we would've lost him in FA next summer anyways.
 
Scalma said:
You're just guessing though. You're no more correct than the guy that says we shed batum because we are rebuilding and we would've lost him in FA next summer anyways.
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And???? How is that any different than the rumors flowing around the league right now?
 
magnifier661 said:
Actually no. He knows what Olshey wants to do and it's entirely different to get them. If every works according to plan, I expect Aldridge to sign
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How do you know what the plan is?? Assumptions and wishes don't equal facts. Let's wait and see what happens.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I'm okay with whatever LA does. More than anything, I'm anxious to see what Portland does, whether that includes LA or not. Right now, I like the moves we made, and while I think they're good moves for about a year from now, I'm not sure what it does for next season. I don't want to go back to being a 30-35 win team. So... I'm anxious to see what Neil Olshey is able to pull off. I think the guys we have are young, talented, lots of potential. Add LA or his replacement, and another 2 solid players, plus some crafty vets, and we could have a performance like the 2013-14 team if the guys come together as they did that season. It's one of the things I've enjoyed about the last two seasons.... the team as a whole was greater than the sum of its' parts. I don't think that was a fluke - I kinda believe Neil knows how to put together a roster that maximizes its' abilities, as if there is some equation for it.
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Same.
 
blue9 said:
None of which will be as good as the one we just traded away.
To say that it's clear that we're not rebuilding is just as foolish as saying there's no way LMA leaves. The moves we've made lean more towards "rebuild" than "contend NOW", but we could go in EITHER direction depending on the decisions of various free agents and other GMs.
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Lmao! Dude Batum is the most overrated SF in the league. The way he cashes in and coasts was a detriment to this team. That's why Blazers wanted to keep Aldridge and toss Batum to the curb. They knew Batum was trash
 
magnifier661 said:
And???? How is that any different than the rumors flowing around the league right now?
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They're not. That's my point. You know about the plan about as much as chris Broussard. Which is zero. You're just on opposite ends.
 
Scalma said:
They're not. That's my point. You know about the plan about as much as chris Broussard. Which is zero. You're just on opposite ends.
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My point exactly!!!! I would much rather look at it in a positive light than watch these emo fans think our world ended
 
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