10 LEAST valuable NBA contract includes three Blazers.

[Natebishop3]

These people have obviously not been educated by Denny Crane at what brilliant contracts these were by Neil Olshey.

They're also not suckin on the Blazers' teet like Denny Crane.

 

[BrianFromWA]

i wonder if some of the reason that Noah is #1 is that he's fallen so much further relatively than where others are performance wise?

like, next to nobody thought that noah deal was terribad, yet just about everyone thought the parsons deal was bad to start with - kinda the same situation with meyers in some regards

um, everyone I read or have talked to thought that deal was a "WTF?!" deal. SI thought so, (twice), CBS thought so, our board thought so. Hell, Bill Simmons chimed in:

"The Knicks only have two championships in 70 years, partly because they can't stop landing famous stars well after they've peaked " Simmons said. "If the Knicks were a celebrity, they'd be dating Paris Hilton right now."

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

The fact that parsons isn't #1 makes the list bullshit imo.

The fact that Leonard Myers isn't #1 makes it bullshit.

 

[Sinobas]

Crabbe is earning his contract, imo. We would be awful without him. We play our best basketball when he is involved. As for Meyers, it's sad. His rookie season was possibly his best. He did have a good playoffs in 2015. Maybe he's a big time player and will come up huge in the playoffs this year. Some here said we missed him against the Warriors last year.

Really? Crabbe might be a starter on a bad team, he's an above average bench player, but he's being paid like a star. Look at the guys around him on the salary scale. And Meyers...yeah, I remember that someone said we missed him against the Warriors last year....who was that? Oh yeah, it was DummyMcDumbDumbs49.

 

[Sinobas]

They're also not suckin on the Blazers' teet like Denny Crane.

They're also not Neil Olshey like Denny Crane is.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Really? Crabbe might be a starter on a bad team, he's an above average bench player, but he's being paid like a star. Look at the guys around him on the salary scale. And Meyers...yeah, I remember that someone said we missed him against the Warriors last year....who was that? Oh yeah, it was DummyMcDumbDumbs49.

He's being paid like he would be the #1 option on a bad team,which, hey, that's what his contract was signed for by the other team.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Like the sentiment, but don't agree with the list.
Omer Asik
Nic Batum
Mike Conley

Kent Bazemore
Cody Zeller (not sure how well he's playing, but he's making $61 mil)
Victor Oladipo
Steven Adams
...

 

[Minstrel]

He's being paid like he would be the #1 option on a bad team,which, hey, that's what his contract was signed for by the other team.

The thing is, he'd be even worse surrounded by less offensive talent. He doesn't have any talent in creating his own shot, nor does he even have aggression as a shooter when shots are created for him. Passive and unable to create for himself or others--he's a #4 on a bad team. Paid like a #1 on a bad team. Yeah, he's earned his way onto any list of awful contracts, in my opinion.

 

[H.C.]

I think Charlotte has more bad contracts than anyone in the league.
5 players on that team have albatross contracts, who all run through the 2020 season.

 

[GDiama]

Kent Bazemore
Cody Zeller (not sure how well he's playing, but he's making $61 mil)
Victor Oladipo
Steven Adams
...

Bazemore is already on that list.

For the other 3 they are really good players and their new contract hasn't kicked in yet so they ll be judged on them next year. Starts next season and Zeller's is a really good value contract under the new cap. Oladipo might not be a difference maker, but is not a bust, he is decent in both ends and has still room for improvement.

Adams contract might seem really high, but with the lack of decent big men you cannot find many better ones with less money and he is not even 24. And he has improved a lot on the offensive end, some decent post moves(far from elite level, but he can contribute) while on defense he is really really good and would be better if the pnr defense was not collapsing because of Westbrook not guarding his man.



I believe the list is pretty accurate. Of course everyone has his own ideas of bad contracts and maybe there are some around the league that are worse, but you cannot really say that any of those in the list is a good contract.

As someone mentioned Tyler Johnson and his 4/50 I believe it's a really good contract, but it can cause cap problems because of its structure (20M the last 2 years).

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Bazemore is already on that list.

For the other 3 they are really good players and their new contract hasn't kicked in yet so they ll be judged on them next year. Starts next season and Zeller's is a really good value contract under the new cap. Oladipo might not be a difference maker, but is not a bust, he is decent in both ends and has still room for improvement.

Adams contract might seem really high, but with the lack of decent big men you cannot find many better ones with less money and he is not even 24. And he has improved a lot on the offensive end, some decent post moves(far from elite level, but he can contribute) while on defense he is really really good and would be better if the pnr defense was not collapsing because of Westbrook not guarding his man.



I believe the list is pretty accurate. Of course everyone has his own ideas of bad contracts and maybe there are some around the league that are worse, but you cannot really say that any of those in the list is a good contract.

As someone mentioned Tyler Johnson and his 4/50 I believe it's a really good contract, but it can cause cap problems because of its structure (20M the last 2 years).

Basically, I just started running down the salaries team by team and got tired of doing that. Needless to say, there are a lot of large/bad/debatable contracts out there.

One approach to determining bad contracts is to categorize them:
Bench Player: Max. Salary should be less than $13 mil/year.
Below Median Starter: Max. Salary should be less that $16 mil/year.
Median or above Median Starter: Salary should be less that $18 mil/year
Difference Maker/Star: Salary should be less than $21 mil/year
Superstar: Salary should be less than $24 mil/year.

The numbers are certainly up for debate, but the concept is not. I love Oladipo, but he is not a difference maker. That being said, given this criteria, you can see why some Blazers are on the list. The HOPE for us, the thunder, and other teams, is that their player's values AND THE CAP will increase with time, making their contracts palatable. There are certain players (such as Omer Asik) where this is very unlikely to happen - Crabbe is definitely not one of those players, and hence should never have been put on the list.

p.s. Another even simpler approach is to plot PER vs. annual salary (2 or more years left on contract), do a linear fit, and see who's above and who's below. This wouldn't be the final word, but an intelligent basis to begin a conversation.

 

[jlprk]

Crabbe is definitely not one of those players, and hence should never have been put on the list.

Huh? Crabbe should be on the list in the opening post. There are plenty of D-League SGs who do the same thing...miss all their clutch guarded shots and most of their layups, and make 1 or 2 unguarded outside shots per game. We should cut Crabbe and sign one of them. They're 6-3 or 6-4, not 6-7 like him, but they try harder.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Huh? Crabbe should be on the list in the opening post. There are plenty of D-League SGs who do the same thing...miss all their clutch guarded shots and most of their layups, and make 1 or 2 unguarded outside shots per game. We should cut Crabbe and sign one of them. They're 6-3 or 6-4, not 6-7 like him, but they try harder.

Apparently, Crabbe read your post and is now on the Jlprk FU Tour...