16 games left, let's make the right choice

[oldfisherman]

There are so many faulty assumptions and theories in the OP. Let’s try to think this win/tank topic out.

Q.
Does NO have a lottery player targeted he wants to draft?
If so, he will need to have a plan ready to trade up, if necessary, to get him.

Today, our first round pick is projected to be #12. Unless the targeted player falls into NO’s lap, moving up or down a few spots in the draft probably is not going to make much difference to land the targeted player.

There are too many variables in the drafting process that NO has no control over.

What will help the most to draft the targeted player is being able to trade the two other first round picks (and maybe a player) to move up, not if we lose a few extra games.

I believe NO’s plan is to make a trade on draft day to get the player/s he wants. Losing a couple of extra games to get the lottery player he wants, would be a very stupid plan.

 

[Trackjack]

I don't believing in tanking you play to win and when smoke clear you deal with it then not until.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't believing in tanking you play to win and when smoke clear you deal with it then not until.

You may not believe in tanking, but tanking believes in you!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

The reason people make fun of you is because you deserve it. You're a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. You deserve to be called out for it. You've been registered here since 2014, but when the team was winning 50+ games and advancing to the second round, not a single post from you. Not a single positive post ever. In fact, you barely posted at all until a month ago. Now, we get multiple negative threads from you every single day. You cared nothing about the team when they were winning and exceeding expectations, but now that they're losing, you're here every day acting all superior.

Let's make this perfectly clear, you are here for one reason, and one reason only: to push people's buttons and prey on the misery of others. That is the definition of an internet troll.

And, that's the problem with being such an obvious troll, even on the occasions when you are right, nobody takes you seriously. You're an act we've all seen countless times before. There is nothing clever, inventive or creative about what you're doing, or how you're doing it. The forum mocks you and derides you because you deserve it. Plain and simple. You're a troll, and not a very good one at that. You're act is transparent, tedious and boring. We've seen far better.

BNM

i feel like this is a shout out. good looks bro!

 

[Rhal]

How is wanting the team to improve a troll post?

Come on now MM, this guy is a troll and just because he makes a posts that isn't horrible doesn't discount pretty much everything he has posted recently.

 

[Chris Craig]

16 games left.
After having another proof (please don't tell me it was an isolate case, it's been like this all season long) that this team IS NOT GOOD what's the meaning of pursuing a playoff seed (the 8th) that is an assurance of being knocked off while you have a chance to select in the top 10 in a draft that everybody consider the best one since LeBron's draft?
Sarver, the owner of Suns, said the same thing last night while discussing the Suns future with the ticket holders.

I mean, it's only 16 games, less than a month of play, it won't affect our mentality (that is already questionable even if we haven't tried to tank, so...) for next year.
And if basketball gods let us select a franchise player he won't have a losing mentality just because we lost games at the end of the season the season before.
Even if he's not a franchise player we fucking need talent, what better chance of landing talent in a loaded draft?
This year there isn't even the illusion of landing a big free agent for the first time because we haven't cap space.

Do you guys realize that the only ones who want the 8th seed are Olshey and the players?
Olshey for saving his ass and the players for saving their consciousness after being massively overpaid and having underperformed.

But as far as competing in the future nothing will benefit us more than a higher draft pick, NOTHING.
Remember that last year if CP3 and Griffin never got injured we would have been knocked off of the playoffs without even a draft pick, and the fact that we advanced to the second round didn't got us quality free agents or winner mentality.
Do we really want to repeat the same errors?

and please, PLEASE, don't tell me about Oden or Bowie, you're better than that.

Make the right choice and stop making troll threads.

 

[noknobs]

We have two more losses than the 8 seed and if we beat Denver on the 28th we own the season series. Given Denver's schedule, if we go about .500 the rest of the way there's a very real chance we get in.

The team is never going to try to lose and I think they're too good to drop in the standings a whole lot. Even if they completely fall apart, all the teams chasing them are also well under .500.

Some fans seem to think being the 8th seed this year and having something like the 15th pick means that we're going to be mediocre for years to come, but if we can somehow miss the playoffs and have the 9th pick then we'll rise from the ashes next year and be a contender. That's dumb as fuck. Season isn't over and I would of thought the Clipper series last year would have proven that anything can happen in a 7 game series.

 

[riverman]

I'm a die hard Blazer fan.....I enjoy the team and the direction we're heading in...I want them to play hard and let the cards fall where they will. Intentionally tanking could get you a pick like TRob if you move up and you could just as well lose out on a Lillard who went 6th behind TRob....seems to me the top picks are going to be guards this draft anyway...power forwards are harder to find and to get one you don't need a top 5 pick....it's too late anyway to compete with Sac or any other bottom feeder in the west for a lottery position....if folks don't enjoy the team or trust the direction....there are 29 more teams to latch onto for a season. Take your pick, I took mine decades ago. I still enjoy the Blazers. I just think they're halfway through a rebuild. This season like last season were more like training camps for roster spots. offseason we'll have a clear picture of who has value......enjoy the process! Sure the loss last night sucked...let the coaching staff deal with it and see if they bounce back.

 

[Nikolokolus]

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't really care one way or another. I agree it is only 16 games, but as we have discussed, the Blazers end with a lot of home games, and since the only true way to tank is to "rest" your best players, that means management has to deliberately screw over the paying fans who bought tickets to see a competitive game. Those tickets are not cheap. You may want to root for a couple of slightly sprained ankles or sore backs to pull it off.

I would be OK with winning 16 in a row as it would be exciting. And I would be OK with losing 16 in a row as we would get a better pick. But more than likely we will win about 5-8 of those remaining games.

 

[BlazerWookee]

"Let's," lol.

Transparent phony.

 

[dviss1]

The reason people make fun of you is because you deserve it. You're a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. You deserve to be called out for it. You've been registered here since 2014, but when the team was winning 50+ games and advancing to the second round, not a single post from you. Not a single positive post ever. In fact, you barely posted at all until a month ago. Now, we get multiple negative threads from you every single day. You cared nothing about the team when they were winning and exceeding expectations, but now that they're losing, you're here every day acting all superior.

Let's make this perfectly clear, you are here for one reason, and one reason only: to push people's buttons and prey on the misery of others. That is the definition of an internet troll.

And, that's the problem with being such an obvious troll, even on the occasions when you are right, nobody takes you seriously. You're an act we've all seen countless times before. There is nothing clever, inventive or creative about what you're doing, or how you're doing it. The forum mocks you and derides you because you deserve it. Plain and simple. You're a troll, and not a very good one at that. You're act is transparent, tedious and boring. We've seen far better.

BNM

OK... so... When are you gonna start paying for all these mics you're destroying....

#BNMneedsamicrophonebudget

 

[Orion Bailey]

MM, Why is this a trol post? ( the OP)

Because there are now three pages, with several intelligent responses. Of which the OP has yet to address or even acknowledge. I dont care how decent this post was. It is calling most of the rest of us out as not knowing, but yet when several people show they " know" too, the OP is nowhere to be found....

Definition of troll no?

 

[BlazerWookee]

The reason people make fun of you is because you deserve it. You're a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. You deserve to be called out for it. You've been registered here since 2014, but when the team was winning 50+ games and advancing to the second round, not a single post from you. Not a single positive post ever. In fact, you barely posted at all until a month ago. Now, we get multiple negative threads from you every single day. You cared nothing about the team when they were winning and exceeding expectations, but now that they're losing, you're here every day acting all superior.

Let's make this perfectly clear, you are here for one reason, and one reason only: to push people's buttons and prey on the misery of others. That is the definition of an internet troll.

And, that's the problem with being such an obvious troll, even on the occasions when you are right, nobody takes you seriously. You're an act we've all seen countless times before. There is nothing clever, inventive or creative about what you're doing, or how you're doing it. The forum mocks you and derides you because you deserve it. Plain and simple. You're a troll, and not a very good one at that. You're act is transparent, tedious and boring. We've seen far better.

BNM

Boob-go-boom.

 

[Mediocre Man]

MM, Why is this a trol post? ( the OP)

Because there are now three pages, with several intelligent responses. Of which the OP has yet to address or even acknowledge. I dont care how decent this post was. It is calling most of the rest of us out as not knowing, but yet when several people show they " know" too, the OP is nowhere to be found....

Definition of troll no?

Same could be said of other posters who are overly positive, no?

 

[BlazerWookee]

At this point, I would pick lotto over 8th seed.

You could hold a gun to my head and I still wouldn't pick the lottery over making the playoffs.

 

[KingSpeed]

Olshey and the players aren't the only people who want 8 seed. Many fans including myself also want team to make the playoffs.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Draymond Green.

Bite your tongue!

 

[KingSpeed]

And we can't make a choice for them to win or lose. We have no control over what happens.

 

[BlazerWookee]

And we can't make a choice for them to win or lose. We have no control over what happens.

Well, except for the fact that I wore the wrong hat yesterday, and take full responsibility for the loss...

 

[HailBlazers]

Bite your tongue!

I know I know but he was the 35th pick of the second round.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Same could be said of other posters who are overly positive, no?

No, no it can't.

Just look at this poster's history. After nearly 3 years of inactivity - not a single post when the team was doing well and exceeding expectations, he is now starting these threads on a daily basis. Each and every thread contains no new opinions, "facts" or information. He could EASILY post in the many draft and lottery threads that already exist, or simply reply to one of the threads he's already started. But, his purpose is not to share new insights (he's beating already long dead horses). His purpose is to push people's buttons and get a reaction. That is the definition of a troll.

People who post overly positive posts are genuinely caught up in their enthusiasm for the team and it's success, even if that success is temporary - a good game or a new player. Their posts are about their own positive outlook and excitement for the team, not intended to bait other posters or push their buttons. Honestly, if someone doesn't get excited when the team does well, I wonder why they even post here.

BNM

 

[Orion Bailey]

Same could be said of other posters who are overly positive, no?

Sure,

But how many of those do you see, who don't actively debate? Not many.

99% of the time troll posts are of the negative aspect. Do you disagree?

 

[dviss1]

No, no it can't.

Just look at this poster's history. After nearly 3 years of inactivity - not a single post when the team was doing well and exceeding expectations, he is now starting these threads on a daily basis. Each and every thread contains no new opinions, "facts" or information. He could EASILY post in the many draft and lottery threads that already exist, or simply reply to one of the threads he's already started. But, his purpose is not to share new insights (he's beating already long dead horses). His purpose is to push people's buttons and get a reaction. That is the definition of a troll.

People who post overly positive posts are genuinely caught up in their enthusiasm for the team and it's success, even if that success is temporary - a good game or a new player. Their posts are about their own positive outlook and excitement for the team, not intended to bait other posters or push their buttons. Honestly, if someone doesn't get excited when the team does well, I wonder why they even post here.

BNM

Learn the game then post @Mediocre Man.

 

[Nikolokolus]

And in case one of you didn't get it. Either win a bunch of fucking games, or lose 'em all.

I'm sure you can guess my vote.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Well, except for the fact that I wore the wrong hat yesterday, and take full responsibility for the loss...

I didnt wear my Leonard Jersey while watching. Ill share the blame with ya Wook. I thought I was doing us a service though...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Sure,

But how many of those do you see, who don't actively debate? Not many.

99% of the time troll posts are of the negative aspect. Do you disagree?

There are posters here who do that. They make some bullshit post and then leave

 

[Mediocre Man]

No, no it can't.

Just look at this poster's history. After nearly 3 years of inactivity - not a single post when the team was doing well and exceeding expectations, he is now starting these threads on a daily basis. Each and every thread contains no new opinions, "facts" or information. He could EASILY post in the many draft and lottery threads that already exist, or simply reply to one of the threads he's already started. But, his purpose is not to share new insights (he's beating already long dead horses). His purpose is to push people's buttons and get a reaction. That is the definition of a troll.

People who post overly positive posts are genuinely caught up in their enthusiasm for the team and it's success, even if that success is temporary - a good game or a new player. Their posts are about their own positive outlook and excitement for the team, not intended to bait other posters or push their buttons. Honestly, if someone doesn't get excited when the team does well, I wonder why they even post here.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

But those people post over stupid positive things even when the team is failing miserably

 

[Mediocre Man]

Learn the game then post @Mediocre Man.

I know the game just fine thank you. I just don't agree much with BNM.