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I think he is saying if we just miss outside of the playoffs, but still good enough to not keep our pick(aka 13th or 14th spot), we technically do still have a chance to keep it if we get big time lotto luck and get into the top 3. However, we will not get bit time lotto luck
 
I think he is saying if we just miss outside of the playoffs, but still good enough to not keep our pick(aka 13th or 14th spot), we technically do still have a chance to keep it if we get big time lotto luck and get into the top 3. However, we will not get bit time lotto luck

Also, if we finish at 12, w could still lose the pick if one of the teams behind us lucks into a top three pick and knocks us back a spot.
 
This don't mackea-no-sense.....

Sure it does. The lottery will determine what pick we have. We will be in the lottery as long as we're not in the playoffs. We could finish 12th, but the 13th place team could win the lottery thus giving us the 13th pick and we would forfeit it.
 
I get what you're saying, but I think we've already seen that this team plays hard for each other and they seem to like playing under Stotts, but at some point maybe upper management needs to set a mandate to play the bench a lot more and get some answers on what they've got? That may sound like "tanking," but to me that's the difference between long-term strategic planning and short-term thinking. Olshey has to decide what's best for the health of this club. Making the playoffs might generate a little extra revenue (though not much as an 8th seed) and give guys like Damian a little taste of the big show, but more than anything this club still needs talent; the cheapest, highest percentage way to get real talent is through the lottery.

Fuck it, whatever happens is going to happen and it won't be the end of the world, but in a year where this team has two likely scenarios (getting an 11th or 12th pick, or forfeiting a 13th or 14th) and an unlikely one (squeaking into the playoffs and probably getting clobbered in 4 or 5 games) it'd be nice to see them take a knee so to speak and potentially improve their odds of actually being competitive in subsequent years.

We know what we have with the bench. We have played them all season. They're not that great.
 
Last 4 games might be gimmies, with OKC, LAC, DEN, and GS sitting their stars at the end of the season.

Those teams are in tight races for playoff seeding. I don't think they'll be sitting their stars. GS is trying to avoid falling to 7th or 8th. Nuggets are creeping up on the Clippers for HCA and OKC is battling Spurs for one seed.
I don't gamble, but would make an exception on this one. Let' make a bet on this. I know for a FACT that my beloved Blazers will come nowhere near 11-7. Let's bet FAMS!

I do not gamble.
 
Those teams are in tight races for playoff seeding. I don't think they'll be sitting their stars. GS is trying to avoid falling to 7th or 8th. Nuggets are creeping up on the Clippers for HCA and OKC is battling Spurs for one seed.


I do not gamble.
With your predictions, I would hope not! You'd be living under a bridge!
 
We know what we have with the bench. We have played them all season. They're not that great.

I think guys like Freeland, Claver and Leonard should be playing much larger roles (like 20+ minutes per night). They might not be great, but I sure would like to see what would happen if they got a heavy dose of regular PT. Odds are you'd see a dumpster fire, but at least they'd know.
 
Well. we got the W tonight which is always good right? Now the rough road begins in my opinion. 17 left and not a one will we be the favorite in Vegas.
 
Well. we got the W tonight which is always good right? Now the rough road begins in my opinion. 17 left and not a one will we be the favorite in Vegas.

Huh? How are we not favored at home against Dallas? Or the Nets? Or the Lakers for that matter? We're a 22-11 home team. Vegas doesn't favor many visiting teams to win at the Rose Garden. Learn the game, then post.
 
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How can I learn from you if I can't post my questions?
 
I think guys like Freeland, Claver and Leonard should be playing much larger roles (like 20+ minutes per night). They might not be great, but I sure would like to see what would happen if they got a heavy dose of regular PT. Odds are you'd see a dumpster fire, but at least they'd know.

You don't care how they play. You just want to lose. Claver and Leonard have started games for us and Freeland had 10 good minutes for us tonight. But, with the exception of Leonard, why should we be seeing how they play in minutes we don't have for them in the future? I've watched every game. I have seen a lot of all our players. I know what they can do. Our coach and GM do too. You just want us to tank. Own up to that. It's a horrible attitude. They work their ass off to be in this position (2 losses out of playoffs) and you want to yank the starters and tell them to quit? That's insanity.
 
One could say that we might as well make the playoffs because the #12 pick will probably just be an average between another Babbitt (who went #16, I think?) and Bayless (#10?).

The gain in getting playoff experience would exceed the gain in the draft pick.
 
At this point I'm actually rooting for us to make the playoffs because I think we're going to get stuck in no-mans-land anyway. I'd rather at least get Dame some playoff experience in the process.
 
At this point I'm actually rooting for us to make the playoffs because I think we're going to get stuck in no-mans-land anyway. I'd rather at least get Dame some playoff experience in the process.

Nice. Go Blazers!
 
Explain to me why you'd like the 12th pick (Babbitt type player) instead of increased cap room and playoff experience for our budding superstar.

with the 12th pick you could throw a dart at the top 30 remaining prospects and get someone better than babbitt.
 
point was babbitt is closer to a 2nd-rounder than a 12th pick. eric could have just as well said 'another leonard' type player, since he was 11th.

Or another "rivers". Last summer's draft was much stronger than the one coming up.
 
point was babbitt is closer to a 2nd-rounder than a 12th pick. eric could have just as well said 'another leonard' type player, since he was 11th.

Babbitt was like 16th. Much closer to 12th than 2nd round.

Lamb was 12th pick last season. He's hardly played at all.
 
Babbitt was like 16th. Much closer to 12th than 2nd round.

Lamb was 12th pick last season. He's hardly played at all.


the odds of us getting a useful player (or useful vet via trading the pick) IF we get it are much greater than the odds of us making the playoffs.
 
the odds of us getting a useful player (or useful vet via trading the pick) IF we get it are much greater than the odds of us making the playoffs.

I don't know if you've been paying attention; but we are only 3 losses behind lakers. If lakers skid three games and the blazers win three; we are tied with them.

The odds are slim; but I can name many players that didn't pan out at #12.
 
the odds of us getting a useful player (or useful vet via trading the pick) IF we get it are much greater than the odds of us making the playoffs.

We are 2.5 games behind the Lakers and they have to come play at the Rose Garden. They are going on a road trip next week. We play 8 of our last 12 at home.
 

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