OT 19 Kids And Counting star Josh Duggar, 33, pleads not guilty to federal child porn charges

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We don't have mind reading super cops and as far as I need no one has yet to be jailed for writing shit like Harry Potter sexual fan fiction so your jail as a deterrent isn't occurring. The only way we find out if someone has this predilection is if they act on it. And if they act on it it becomes a crime.

I just find it funny that we are in this age of acceptance, where we accept everyone for who they want to be, but I find it extremely ironic that it doesn't apply to some groups. We're super compassionate and accommodating..... but not for these people. Dude wants to become a chick and beat the shit out of biological women in the ring? Why the fuck not! But this other subset of people who are most likely born that way, nope. We have no compassion for these people. I just find it extremely hypocritical.
 
I just find it funny that we are in this age of acceptance, where we accept everyone for who they want to be, but I find it extremely ironic that it doesn't apply to some groups. We're super compassionate and accommodating..... but not for these people. Dude wants to become a chick and beat the shit out of biological women in the ring? Why the fuck not! But this other subset of people who are most likely born that way, nope. We have no compassion for these people. I just find it extremely hypocritical.

Cool. No one is telling you who to accept. If you want to say that I'm a hypocritic for thinking that pedos are pure vile scum and not caring who is using the bathroom when I am then I guess I'm a hypocrite.
 
Being LGBTQ is not a gender. I am a sis gender woman (gender) who is also a lesbian.

And the term is sexual orientation, not preference. Preference is used to minimize us. Being LGBTQ is not what we are, it's just a preference like Coke or Pepsi (I drink neither).

Pedophilia is not a gender or a sexual orientation. Whether or not it is a treatable mental condition is not my area of expertise.
 
I'm also such of a hypocrite that I think someone who molested four of his sisters and then went on to participate in child porn should have his 6, soon to be 7, children removed from the home until it can be professional verified they're not victims of this poor man's addiction.
 
I'm also such of a hypocrite that I think someone who molested four of his sisters and then went on to participate in child porn should have his 6, soon to be 7, children removed from the home until it can be professional verified they're not victims of this poor man's addiction.

Who is even saying that people like him shouldn't be in prison?
 
So question, do you think pedos are a mental illness? And if so, why do we treat that mental illness differently from other mental illnesses? Do you think people choose to be attracted to children?
Any mental illness that makes you a risk to children needs to be exterminated. Life in prison, chemical castration, whatever. You need to not be a risk to kids.

If you are an adult and abuse a kid or enable a kid to be abused you should be removed from the general population at the very least.
 
The only way we find out if someone has this predilection is if they act on it. And if they act on it it becomes a crime.

It's similar to an alcoholic who gets into a car accident while drunk. They don't need a deterrent, they need to be punished. Acting on a pedophilia addiction you need to go to jail.

I haven't read the thread or any articles, but...did he just look at pictures? If so, he didn't "act on it."
 
Here is someone's post about this on reddit. To go to that much trouble to view something so vile is IMO acting on it and supporting it.




Sorry to nitpick, but it annoys me that the writer of that explainer used "deep web" and "dark web" interchangeably. They're two very different things. The dark web (which is what he meant all along) is the part of the internet intended to be difficult to find, usually due to shady/illegal things going on (though it can also be used for things like dissidents communicating in an authoritarian country). The deep web is the vast majority of the internet that is not indexed by search engines and is often dynamically-generated or behind security. Your online banking pages are deep web. The pages a pizzeria's website generates to display your order and allow you to pay are deep web.

But yeah, creating demand for child porn (or "online CSA") is part of "acting on it." Not as awful as physically harming a child, but still within that domain.
 
Sorry to nitpick, but it annoys me that the writer of that explainer used "deep web" and "dark web" interchangeably. They're two very different things. The dark web (which is what he meant all along) is the part of the internet intended to be difficult to find, usually due to shady/illegal things going on (though it can also be used for things like dissidents communicating in an authoritarian country). The deep web is the vast majority of the internet that is not indexed by search engines and is often dynamically-generated or behind security. Your online banking pages are deep web. The pages a pizzeria's website generates to display your order and allow you to pay are deep web.

But yeah, creating demand for child porn (or "online CSA") is part of "acting on it." Not as awful as physically harming a child, but still within that domain.

What about the dark deep web?
 
This is just my two cents. I don't know how well this will be perceived by others but here goes anyway.

It seems to me that, under the current gender rules, pedophilia is it's own gender... as well as necrophilia. Albeit, not any genders anyone would want to identify with. But, in my opinion, they are separate genders in their own right.
It is a mental illness, a serious mental illness such as murder. Some people have to be locked up until cured and I don't know of any cure for pedophilia. You do the math.
 
I wouldn't act on it, and if I ever were tempted I would turn myself in as a threat or kill myself.
I couldn't see turning myself in nor could I see killing myself. I could see getting treatment and not ruining a person's life when they're young to feed my addiction.
 
Being LGBTQ is not a gender. I am a sis gender woman (gender) who is also a lesbian.

Gay, lesbian, bisexual may be sexual orientations, but each group as a whole are their own genders. Therefore, as I see it, your whole post is incorrect.

This is why I don't talk about transgender issues. Besides the fact that I can't use their terms due to my autism. People always twist this shit around. It is the main reason why I hate dealing with this subject.

Don't bother responding as I won't debate this shit any further with anyone here. I can't use their terms due to my aspergers, I still call him Bruce Jenner, because I can't use their terms. This always pisses transgender people off. As it seems that I am the one who must be understanding of them, yet in return I don't get the same consideration back from them.

Edit: From the World Health Organizations own website. Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed.

(Gender is a social construct)

https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1
 
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I don't know a lot about Asperger's. I therefore admit I don't know why Asperger's would prevent a person from calling another by the name they prefer, or to insist that gay, lesbian, bi, trans are actually genders when those of us in the community say otherwise.

Couldn't you also admit that you don't know a lot about our community?
 
I don't know a lot about Asperger's. I therefore admit I don't know why Asperger's would prevent a person from calling another by the name they prefer, or to insist that gay, lesbian, bi, trans are actually genders when those of us in the community say otherwise.

Couldn't you also admit that you don't know a lot about our community?

I work with people under the ASD umbrella, and it's not about knowing a lot about a community as much as it's about black and white things. (Not race black and white, but it is or it isn't). Something makes sense or it doesn't, nuances, shades of grey, etc, aren't easily perceived by people who are under the "umbrella".

It's never personal, and it's not a slight against someone. It's similar to how LGBTQ will say it's how they're wired, that's how people who are ASD/Aspergers are wired. It doesn't mean they hate someone, or whatever, it just means that it doesn't make sense to how they perceive the world.

It's kind of ironic for you to have RR "admit" he doesn't know a lot about your community, when you know probably less about his.
 
I couldn't see turning myself in nor could I see killing myself. I could see getting treatment and not ruining a person's life when they're young to feed my addiction.
Yes, obviously seek treatment first. Before you're a threat. I took the question to mean a person would be compelled to act on those desires. At which point they are a threat to children, and not fit for freedom.

But yes, if not a threat to act, treatment would be the way.
 
I acknowledged not knowing much about Asperger's. And others don't know much about my community.

Yeah, I get thats what you're saying. It's just funny that you're arguing he doesn't know your community, when you're being critical of what he said, when he's basically saying because of how his brain is wired, that's how he see's it. Not in a "wrong vs right" aspect, but just a black and white thing. And it's not a "I'm a old codger, it's how it was when I was a kid" mind either.

I also think if people read up on ASD/Aspergers (and a variety of other disabilities/difference lifestyles), there'd be far less confusion/misinterpretation what people are saying.

His reaction has zero to do with getting to know a community better, whereas your response has something to do with not knowing his community that well.

example: I have people I work with every week, and they've known me for years now. And at times I interact with dozens of people on or near the ASD spectrum/umbrella. And there are times when I'm joking or using nuance in my language, or use certain words that are socially acceptable between friends and they don't necessarily interpret it the same way.

Even the ones who I have worked with and have known for years.

Why do the ones who have known me for years, in some cases almost 15 years, still struggle with reading my body language or tone?

Because of how their brain is wired. It's not a case where they need to "know me better" (that's part of it) as much as a reminder that I have to realize that I need to know their community better.

Their reactions (or lack of reactions) don't mean they're slighting me etc, but it doesn't mean there aren't people who are ASD/aspergers, who don't like me or don't find me pleasant to be around. I'm also not saying this is how it is with everyone on the ASD/aspergers spectrum.

In other words, sometimes we have to learn to not immediately get on the defensive. It took me a long time to learn that lesson with the population I work with.
 
In other words, sometimes we have to learn to not immediately get on the defensive. It took me a long time to learn that lesson with the population I work with.

impossible! Where’s the fun in that???

I feel like everyone just assumes the worst intentions these days.
 
impossible! Where’s the fun in that???

I feel like everyone just assumes the worst intentions these days
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and what the fuck do you mean by that!!?!?!?!?!!!!
 
When it comes to someone who has previously molested kids and is under arrest for child porn I'm going to assume the worst.
Not what I’m talking about.

Do I need to keep saying this? The Duggar guy belongs in prison for a very long time.
 
Nah dude, you’re conflating something as perfectly legal (and not immoral/unethical) with something that’s fucked up, evil, and illegal shit. A dude/chick wants to become the opposite is/should be perfectly legal and is none of anyone’s business. A dude that went through the transition and wants to compete with women in sports? Well, I’ll leave it to that particular organization to decide how they want to set their rules.

Fucking adults that want to have sex with children is not and should not be acceptable by anyone sane. I’ll be damned if I’m compassionate and accommodating to any pervs that want molest kids. Only thing I’ll be accommodating to them is putting them out of their misery if they act on their fucked up impulses.

Sorry bud, but your both sideism on this issue is beyond fucked up.
I know a dude who is one of these people. I knew him when we were both young. He was actually arrested. I think he’s probably in prison now. He was really weird when I knew him. Didn’t know how to be around people. Was home schooled. I actually wasn’t surprised when I heard he was arrested and his crime was disgusting. But with that said, I don’t think it’s fair to blame these people for being fucked up. We can blame them for the crimes they commit and punish them, but that doesn’t stop me from wondering if there was anything that could have been done when this dude was young to stop him from being a monster.

Another example; my brother in law is schizophrenic. It has completely ruined his life. He didn’t choose to be schizophrenic. It just happened. But we can treat it and hopefully make his life better.

How do you treat pedophilia? And who the hell would want to come forward and say that they’re having those thoughts?
 

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