2 officers shot at Dallas Texas police protest

[MarAzul]

So zero.

Like Wilson huh? He failed to get the gun, but he tried!
These sort of incidents are more indicative the police needing policy changes for their tactics than anything.
I am certain that less confrontation by lone officers would make a big difference in the out comes of confrontation, simply by changing the demeanor of the black person in the confrontation. One white cop vs Two cops or even four with at least one being black would make a huge difference.

 

[Denny Crane]

Like Wilson huh? He failed to get the gun, but he tried!
The sort of incidents are more indicative the police needing policy changes for their tactics than anything.
I am certain that less confrontation by lone officers would make a big difference in the out comes of confrontation, simply by changing the demeanor of the black person in the confrontation. One white cop vs Two cops or even four with at least one being black would make a huge difference.

So, zero.

The only one armed in the confrontation is the cop.

Far less deaths on both sides if the cops stop over harassing people in poorer neighborhoods.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[MarAzul]

Far less deaths on both sides if the cops stop over harassing people in poorer neighborhoods.

WTF kind of babble it that? Let them run wild? No attempt at all for the rule of law? Well if that's what you want then Liberia was the right solution. I think it works exactly that way there.

 

[MarAzul]

cops stop over harassing people in poorer neighborhoods.

Hey! Isn't that the way it works in Chicago now? Baltimore too I hear. Crime is way up this year.

 

[Denny Crane]

WTF kind of babble it that? Let them run wild? No attempt at all for the rule of law? Well if that's what you want then Liberia was the right solution. I think it works exactly that way there.

Or be judicious about choosing if and when to confront. The guy in Minnesota was shot over a busted tail light - rather trivial offense.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Sorry, but there are no more vacuous and self absorbed individuals in life than the mid 30's to early 40's white soccer moms. Fortunately most of them seem to grow out of it. Or at least the one I'm married to did......

They are self absorbed, I get that. 20 year old girls today are just plain dumb.

 

[Minstrel]

Not according to the BLM.

BLM has never alleged that being black is more dangerous than being a cop. The job of police officer (like that of being a fireman or a coal miner) is a dangerous one. Being a certain skin color shouldn't carry any danger level at all. Comparing the two, as you are doing, is somewhat ridiculous.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

umm, how do you watch that action and think of this shit?

I was thinking of the racism prunetang spoke of and then I saw this moronic girl trying to hurt herself using gym equipment wrong. It isn't racist to say 20 year old white girls are dumber than dumb, so I did.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

How is that startling? Seems like being a police officer is more dangerous than being a black person.

Pays better though.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

BLM has never alleged that being black is more dangerous than being a cop. The job of police officer (like that of being a fireman or a coal miner) is a dangerous one. Being a certain skin color shouldn't carry any danger level at all. Comparing the two, as you are doing, is somewhat ridiculous.

Being a certain skin color shouldn't make you seem more dangerous, but it does.

Except it really doesn't. What does is riding around in an 83 cutty on hydraulics with weed smoke billowing out of the car. That is what seems to trigger the cops.

 

[Minstrel]

Except it really doesn't. What does is riding around in an 83 cutty on hydraulics with weed smoke billowing out of the car. That is what seems to trigger the cops.

If that were true, a lot of my (white and Asian) high school classmates would be long dead.

 

[MarAzul]

judicious about choosing if and when to confront.

Yes sir! And may I add, and do the confrontation in a way to reduce the probability of resistance. The resistance and the fear of resistance is getting these people shot.

 

[MarAzul]

Comparing the two, as you are doing

I didn't do anything other than share a report.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes sir! And may I add, and do the confrontation in a way to reduce the probability of resistance. The resistance and the fear of resistance is getting these people shot.

The cops are not so judicious. The black folks have this legitimate complaint.

All that BLM is really asking for is fair treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-scott-pulled-over_us_5786bfffe4b08608d332eaa0

Black GOP Senator Talks About Being Pulled Over By Police 7 Times In One Year

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/tim-scott-police-racial-profiling/

Black senator describes facing unfair scrutiny by police

 

[MarAzul]

I was thinking of the racism prunetang spoke of and then I saw this moronic girl trying to hurt herself using gym equipment wrong. It isn't racist to say 20 year old white girls are dumber than dumb, so I did.

I guess it was the picture you painted, the glutes in the air working the hammies! It might push aside all other thought.

 

[Minstrel]

I didn't do anything other than share a report.

You labeled it "startling," which means you found the comparison meaningful.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I guess it was the picture you painted, the glutes in the air working the hammies! It might push aside all other thought.

She wasn't very attractive, I can sneak a pic of some of the good ones but I just saw that playmate story, don't wanna be famous.

 

[MarAzul]

All that BLM is really asking for is fair treatment.

I guess we will not agree today. While I agreed changes should be made, the BLM is getting people riled up and the result is cops being killed.
Their tactics do not target change by the powers that control the police they have an grievance with, they are simply out the raise hell in the street where ever they are.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The cops are not so judicious. The black folks have this legitimate complaint.

All that BLM is really asking for is fair treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-scott-pulled-over_us_5786bfffe4b08608d332eaa0

Black GOP Senator Talks About Being Pulled Over By Police 7 Times In One Year

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/tim-scott-police-racial-profiling/

Black senator describes facing unfair scrutiny by police

Black senators are 18.5 times more likely to kill police officers than white senators.

 

[MarAzul]

You labeled it "startling," which means you found the comparison meaningful.

She wasn't very attractive, I can sneak a pic of some of the good ones but I just saw that playmate story, don't wanna be famous.

Ah! click bait. But it is rather startling to think any people are 18.5 time more likely to kill a cop than anything else, don't you think?

How likely are you to kill a cop vs anything you can think up? Any thing that gets you higher than .00x?

 

[MarAzul]

The cops are not so judicious. The black folks have this legitimate complaint.

All that BLM is really asking for is fair treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-scott-pulled-over_us_5786bfffe4b08608d332eaa0

Black GOP Senator Talks About Being Pulled Over By Police 7 Times In One Year

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/tim-scott-police-racial-profiling/

Black senator describes facing unfair scrutiny by police

Despicable stuff! Get the changes to the Mayor and the Police chief immediately. But stop the bull shit in the streets getting the loonies wound tight!
Cops are getting shot.

Geez, I may pass the Senator this year. I have had six encounters with law enforcement already this first half the year. Probable the only reason for not more is the MarAzul is in the shipyard. I bet I pull even at least, with the trip to Port Townsend come up.

 

[Minstrel]

Ah! click bait. But it is rather startling to think any people are 18.5 time more likely to kill a cop than anything else, don't you think?

Well, it's a profession that includes combat at times. It's not very surprising to me that cops face death much more than any other group of people, possibly outside of military deployed to combat zones.

Also, it bears noting that American society is among the most violent among Western democracries, which raises the risk factors for cops.

 

[Denny Crane]

I guess we will not agree today. While I agreed changes should be made, the BLM is getting people riled up and the result is cops being killed.
Their tactics do not target change by the powers that control the police they have an grievance with, they are simply out the raise hell in the street where ever they are.

With the 10s of millions of criminally inclined black people and BLM inciting them to kill cops, there's not much cop killing going on. Looks more like not so criminally inclined (like the Black senator), and not inciting to kill cops.

Especially with the absurd number of confrontations due to (black senator) being black.

 

[MarAzul]

Well, it's a profession that includes combat at times.

Yes but 18.5 times! Perhaps they should just completely avoid the area where blacks are, faced with that stat.

 

[MarAzul]

there's not much cop killing going on.

I don't follow you sir. Far too many the way I would characterize it.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS
Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


1. A study by a University of California, Davis professor found “evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being black, unarmed, and shot by police is about 3.49 times the probability of being white, unarmed, and shot by police on average.” Additionally, the analysis found that “there is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”

2. An independent analysis of Washington Post data on police killings found that, “when factoring in threat level, black Americans who are fatally shot by police are, in fact, less likely to be posing an imminent lethal threat to the officers at the moment they are killed than white Americans fatally shot by police.” According to one of the report’s authors, “The only thing that was significant in predicting whether someone shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black. . . . Crime variables did not matter in terms of predicting whether the person killed was unarmed."

(Hell, read the article, it blows MarAzul's statistics out of the water).

 

[SlyPokerDog]

BTW, here is the data that Marazul's article based their conclusions on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

990 people were killed by the police in 2015.

42 law enforcement officers were killed in 2015.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't follow you sir. Far too many the way I would characterize it.

You don't follow, ok.

If BLM is inciting black people to kill cops, you'd think there'd be hundreds, thousands, or even more cops killed by blacks.

Or blacks aren't interested in killing cops. Including BLM.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Find me an article or study that takes into account that guns are black for the most part. So, cops would probably have a harder time being able to recognize a gun on a black guy.

Black guys should all buy silver or chrome guns so they are more visible. It would be safer.