2008 GM Draft 1 Peer Evaluation Thread

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Aug 12 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>stop saying names of guys who haven't been drafted.</div>

you can't be serious
 
I thought about including a winking face, but decided against it.



I like having people guess.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 12 2008, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Aug 12 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>stop saying names of guys who haven't been drafted.</div>

you can't be serious
</div>

I drafted one of those guys last year!
 
Updated Barneys

C: Eddy Curry
PF: KG
SF: Artest
SG: SJax
PG: Stuckey
Bench: Diaw, Stackhouse
 
My team so far:

Kaman
Harrington
Kleiza
Richardson
Paul
Bench: Louis Williams, Tyrus Thomas
 
The Los Angeles Lakers

PG- Derek Fisher
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Jamario Moon
PF- Lamar Odom
C- Tyson Chandler

Bench: Eddie House, Matt Barnes
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Los Angeles Lakers

PG- Derek Fisher
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Jamario Moon
PF- Lamar Odom
C- Tyson Chandler

Bench: Eddie House, Matt Barnes</div>

You should've gotten Ramon Sessions when you had the chance.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Los Angeles Lakers

PG- Derek Fisher
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Jamario Moon
PF- Lamar Odom
C- Tyson Chandler

Bench: Eddie House, Matt Barnes</div>

You should've gotten Ramon Sessions when you had the chance.
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Why Ramon? He only played 17 games last season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Los Angeles Lakers

PG- Derek Fisher
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Jamario Moon
PF- Lamar Odom
C- Tyson Chandler

Bench: Eddie House, Matt Barnes</div>

You should've gotten Ramon Sessions when you had the chance.
</div>

Why Ramon? He only played 17 games last season.
</div>

I know, it was a joke


I still think you needed a playmaker, though. I don't trust Dwyane, Derek, and Eddie all that much. Unless, of course, you're counting on Odom to do that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Los Angeles Lakers

PG- Derek Fisher
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Jamario Moon
PF- Lamar Odom
C- Tyson Chandler

Bench: Eddie House, Matt Barnes</div>

You should've gotten Ramon Sessions when you had the chance.
</div>

Why Ramon? He only played 17 games last season.
</div>

I know, it was a joke


I still think you needed a playmaker, though. I don't trust Dwyane, Derek, and Eddie all that much. Unless, of course, you're counting on Odom to do that.
</div>

Haha, gotcha.


Yeah I'll try and get one later in the draft. There are still lots of good players left. Derek has the experience of playing with a top player (Kobe) so I'm not that worried about him. Plus Odom can basically play any position if needed except center. lol
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fiElDy @ Aug 13 2008, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My team so far:

Kaman
Harrington
Kleiza
Richardson
Paul
Bench: Louis Williams, Tyrus Thomas</div>

Interesting approach. You have 3 guys that love to jack up 3's with a low post center and a do it all PG. Your wings will run with CP3, so you addressed the concern of pairing Kaman with him.

Defensively, you are going to have trouble, but with Harrington, LK and Richardson, you can switch everything to at least keep a body in front of people.

Off your bench, Williams gives you a nice scoring punch while Tyrus is a risk. At least paired with CP3, Tyrus will be able to score when he is in the game.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haha, gotcha.


Yeah I'll try and get one later in the draft. There are still lots of good players left. Derek has the experience of playing with a top player (Kobe) so I'm not that worried about him. Plus Odom can basically play any position if needed except center. lol</div>

Yeah, I guess.

I do like your team defensively. If Lamar steps up in the same fashion that he did the last time he played with Dwyane, your team should be great.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 13 2008, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haha, gotcha.


Yeah I'll try and get one later in the draft. There are still lots of good players left. Derek has the experience of playing with a top player (Kobe) so I'm not that worried about him. Plus Odom can basically play any position if needed except center. lol</div>

Yeah, I guess.

I do like your team defensively. If Lamar steps up in the same fashion that he did the last time he played with Dwyane, your team should be great.
</div>

Thank you Pegs.
 
Guys I want to know what you think of my new team after I traded for Paul Pierce.

Milwaukee Bucks -
C: Jeff Foster/ Andray Blatche
PF: Amare Stoudemire
SF: Gerald Wallace
SG: Paul Pierce/ Rashard Mccants
PG: Mike Bibby

This team is a very solid team all around. Foster provides the perfect compliment to Amare as a guy who is a good defender and rebounder. He'll do the dirty work that Amare doesn't like to do. He allows Amare to play PF making Amare much for effective.

Amare- the best offensive big man in the league. No not even Tim Duncan can stop him. Is just an average defender though but maybe on this team instead of the Suns he'll do better

Mccants is instant offense off the bench and is learning. Hes a borderline starter and having a guy like that come off the bench is a huge plus. Averaged 15 pts in 26 mins in his third year. Also shot over 40% behind the arc and averaged 2 threes a game last year

Bibby is a good leader and knows how to run an offense. I'm not asking him to go back to his 18-8 days. Hes kind of an x- factor, someone who will hit big shots and also average 6-7 assists.

Pierce- obliviously great leader, defender and scorer. Knows how to play in big games and in the clutch.

Gerald Wallace- Works hard on defense and offense, never takes plays off. Developing into a very solid scorer and one of the league's best defenders. BTW hes only 25. He needs to stay healthy but if he misses a few games, Mccants can come in and play the two and Pierce will shift to SF.

Blatche believe it or not is only 21. He just starting to develop last year and is a dangerous shot blocker who is just learning his jumpshot. I was talking with some people from Washington and they said he has the potential to be kind of a late bloomer like Jermaine Onea'l. Won't go that far yet but hes kind of like our version of Sean Williams except hes bigger and stronger. He'll split time with Foster. Hes been on all three of Washington's playoff teams so he has experience there too.

Can't wait till we start voting because another team in my division is Denny Crane's Chicago Bulls that is also very solid with

Chicago Bulls - Denny Crane
C: Samuel Dalembert
PF: David Lee
SF: Andre Iguodala
SG: Ronnie Brewer
PG: Gilbert Arenas / Earl Watson

His team is competitive to mine but obliviously I think my team is better
 
Detroit Pistons

C: Antonio McDyess
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
SF: Grant Hill/Matt Harpring
SG: Allen Iverson/Larry Hughes
PG: Jarrett Jack
 
McDyess is no kind of center. He's your backup PF.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys I want to know what you think of my new team after I traded for Paul Pierce.

Milwaukee Bucks -
C: Jeff Foster/ Andray Blatche
PF: Amare Stoudemire
SF: Gerald Wallace
SG: Paul Pierce/ Rashard Mccants
PG: Mike Bibby

This team is a very solid team all around. Foster provides the perfect compliment to Amare as a guy who is a good defender and rebounder. He'll do the dirty work that Amare doesn't like to do. He allows Amare to play PF making Amare much for effective.

Amare- the best offensive big man in the league. No not even Tim Duncan can stop him. Is just an average defender though but maybe on this team instead of the Suns he'll do better

Mccants is instant offense off the bench and is learning. Hes a borderline starter and having a guy like that come off the bench is a huge plus. Averaged 15 pts in 26 mins in his third year. Also shot over 40% behind the arc and averaged 2 threes a game last year

Bibby is a good leader and knows how to run an offense. I'm not asking him to go back to his 18-8 days. Hes kind of an x- factor, someone who will hit big shots and also average 6-7 assists.

Pierce- obliviously great leader, defender and scorer. Knows how to play in big games and in the clutch.

Gerald Wallace- Works hard on defense and offense, never takes plays off. Developing into a very solid scorer and one of the league's best defenders. BTW hes only 25. He needs to stay healthy but if he misses a few games, Mccants can come in and play the two and Pierce will shift to SF.

Blatche believe it or not is only 21. He just starting to develop last year and is a dangerous shot blocker who is just learning his jumpshot. I was talking with some people from Washington and they said he has the potential to be kind of a late bloomer like Jermaine Onea'l. Won't go that far yet but hes kind of like our version of Sean Williams except hes bigger and stronger. He'll split time with Foster. Hes been on all three of Washington's playoff teams so he has experience there too.

Can't wait till we start voting because another team in my division is Denny Crane's Chicago Bulls that is also very solid with

Chicago Bulls - Denny Crane
C: Samuel Dalembert
PF: David Lee
SF: Andre Iguodala
SG: Ronnie Brewer
PG: Gilbert Arenas / Earl Watson

His team is competitive to mine but obliviously I think my team is better</div>

Dalembert > Foster
Lee < Amare
Iggy > Wallace
Brewer < Pierce
Arenas > Bibby
Watson >= McCants

*shrug*
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys I want to know what you think of my new team after I traded for Paul Pierce.

Milwaukee Bucks -
C: Jeff Foster/ Andray Blatche
PF: Amare Stoudemire
SF: Gerald Wallace
SG: Paul Pierce/ Rashard Mccants
PG: Mike Bibby

This team is a very solid team all around. Foster provides the perfect compliment to Amare as a guy who is a good defender and rebounder. He'll do the dirty work that Amare doesn't like to do. He allows Amare to play PF making Amare much for effective.

Amare- the best offensive big man in the league. No not even Tim Duncan can stop him. Is just an average defender though but maybe on this team instead of the Suns he'll do better

Mccants is instant offense off the bench and is learning. Hes a borderline starter and having a guy like that come off the bench is a huge plus. Averaged 15 pts in 26 mins in his third year. Also shot over 40% behind the arc and averaged 2 threes a game last year

Bibby is a good leader and knows how to run an offense. I'm not asking him to go back to his 18-8 days. Hes kind of an x- factor, someone who will hit big shots and also average 6-7 assists.

Pierce- obliviously great leader, defender and scorer. Knows how to play in big games and in the clutch.

Gerald Wallace- Works hard on defense and offense, never takes plays off. Developing into a very solid scorer and one of the league's best defenders. BTW hes only 25. He needs to stay healthy but if he misses a few games, Mccants can come in and play the two and Pierce will shift to SF.

Blatche believe it or not is only 21. He just starting to develop last year and is a dangerous shot blocker who is just learning his jumpshot. I was talking with some people from Washington and they said he has the potential to be kind of a late bloomer like Jermaine Onea'l. Won't go that far yet but hes kind of like our version of Sean Williams except hes bigger and stronger. He'll split time with Foster. Hes been on all three of Washington's playoff teams so he has experience there too.

Can't wait till we start voting because another team in my division is Denny Crane's Chicago Bulls that is also very solid with

Chicago Bulls - Denny Crane
C: Samuel Dalembert
PF: David Lee
SF: Andre Iguodala
SG: Ronnie Brewer
PG: Gilbert Arenas / Earl Watson

His team is competitive to mine but obliviously I think my team is better</div>

Dalembert > Foster
Lee < Amare
Iggy > Wallace
Brewer < Pierce
Arenas > Bibby
Watson >= McCants

*shrug*
</div>

So it's even? lol
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrandKenyon6 @ Aug 13 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Detroit Pistons

C: Antonio McDyess
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
SF: Grant Hill/Matt Harpring
SG: Allen Iverson/Larry Hughes
PG: Jarrett Jack</div>

one word for this team OLD. Grant Hill and Harping are both playing on their last legs. Larry Hughes doesn't have much left in the tank and McDyess is playing on his last knees and is very undersized to be playing center. You play those guys more than 20 mins a game and your asking for them to get injured. A.I is still a good player and Dirk is a star but after that this team just has so many flaws. It's slow, old and doesn't even have that good defenders. The mixture of veterans and young players is just terrible and your basically asking two guys one A.I whoes 33 and the other whoes 30 to get this team to the playoffs.

Lets say by miracle they make it to the playoffs which I don't see happening comparing this team to others but even if they do this team is going to need some serious rebuilding because I see half your team retiring in a year or two
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Aug 13 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

Dalembert > Foster
Lee < Amare
Iggy > Wallace
Brewer < Pierce
Arenas > Bibby
Watson >= McCants

*shrug*</div>

So it's even? lol

</div>

Only because you have 7 players, I have 6
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Aug 13 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

Dalembert > Foster
Lee < Amare
Iggy > Wallace
Brewer < Pierce
Arenas > Bibby
Watson >= McCants

*shrug*</div>

So it's even? lol

</div>

Only because you have 7 players, I have 6

</div>

I was trying to solve your math equation there hahaha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys I want to know what you think of my new team after I traded for Paul Pierce.

Milwaukee Bucks -
C: Jeff Foster/ Andray Blatche
PF: Amare Stoudemire
SF: Gerald Wallace
SG: Paul Pierce/ Rashard Mccants
PG: Mike Bibby

This team is a very solid team all around. Foster provides the perfect compliment to Amare as a guy who is a good defender and rebounder. He'll do the dirty work that Amare doesn't like to do. He allows Amare to play PF making Amare much for effective.

Amare- the best offensive big man in the league. No not even Tim Duncan can stop him. Is just an average defender though but maybe on this team instead of the Suns he'll do better

Mccants is instant offense off the bench and is learning. Hes a borderline starter and having a guy like that come off the bench is a huge plus. Averaged 15 pts in 26 mins in his third year. Also shot over 40% behind the arc and averaged 2 threes a game last year

Bibby is a good leader and knows how to run an offense. I'm not asking him to go back to his 18-8 days. Hes kind of an x- factor, someone who will hit big shots and also average 6-7 assists.

Pierce- obliviously great leader, defender and scorer. Knows how to play in big games and in the clutch.

Gerald Wallace- Works hard on defense and offense, never takes plays off. Developing into a very solid scorer and one of the league's best defenders. BTW hes only 25. He needs to stay healthy but if he misses a few games, Mccants can come in and play the two and Pierce will shift to SF.

Blatche believe it or not is only 21. He just starting to develop last year and is a dangerous shot blocker who is just learning his jumpshot. I was talking with some people from Washington and they said he has the potential to be kind of a late bloomer like Jermaine Onea'l. Won't go that far yet but hes kind of like our version of Sean Williams except hes bigger and stronger. He'll split time with Foster. Hes been on all three of Washington's playoff teams so he has experience there too.

Can't wait till we start voting because another team in my division is Denny Crane's Chicago Bulls that is also very solid with

Chicago Bulls - Denny Crane
C: Samuel Dalembert
PF: David Lee
SF: Andre Iguodala
SG: Ronnie Brewer
PG: Gilbert Arenas / Earl Watson

His team is competitive to mine but obliviously I think my team is better</div>

Dalembert > Foster
Lee < Amare
Iggy > Wallace
Brewer < Pierce
Arenas > Bibby
Watson >= McCants

*shrug*
</div>

I don't want to get into a deep argument yet and leave that to voting if we ever get to that point but... just using greater than and less than signs isn't going to cut it.

Amare is a lot better than Lee
Iggy is better than Wallace but not by that much if you look at stats and they have similar athletic ability.
Pierce is a lot better than Brewer even though I have a ton of respect for Brewer
Arenas is a lot better than Bibby
Dalembert is better than Foster by a solid amount but they are both defensive centers and both good rebounders. Dalembert could give a few more points a game a couple more blocks a game but they both have similar impacts on their teams

So... it would be a good matchup but I think I just have too much firepower. Your team has one true scorer and the others all work hard on both ends but are not great scorers ala Detroit Pistons so it'll be a very interesting matchup. I'll leave it that and probably go into greater depth during voting. Please let it happen because last year it didn't happen so I'm a little nervous voting won't happen.
 

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