2008 GM Draft 1 Peer Evaluation Thread

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Aug 2 2008, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Too bad we dont have a Rose to go with Gay.</div>

you need to have Rose, Love and Gay all on the same team
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 3 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 3 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 3 2008, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 3 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Arenas, Iggy, and Dalembert.

Sort of a 76ers flavor, but Arenas is a huge upgrade over Andre Miller (tho Miller is a fine player).

76ers with Iggy and Dalembert and Miller were 40-42, a much better record than you'd expect.</div>


I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Arenas would be over Andre. Andre was the catalyst on that team. He really was a big piece.

Of course Arenas is the better player, but in this context, I'm not sure how much.
</div>

12 points a game better, 1 APG worse, primary ballhandler, primary focus of opponents' defense, can drop 60+ in a game...
</div>

Andre Miller was the primary ballhandler. He was the catalyst of that whole offense. The stats are meaningless, they came in a different situation, which is what I was trying to say. You can't justify everything with stats, especially when you are fusing players into a new situation. You can't just say "Arenas would come in and be an upgrade because he averages more points".

Miller is much better at running an offense, and not turning the ball over.

Once Stefanski came to the Sixers and met with Cheeks to change the offensive tempo, Miller's stats went way up, and Iguodola's turnovers were reduced, as Miller was given reign to run the offense and be the primary guy who got the Sixers into their offense.. I'm not so sure that Arenas fits into that role, as Miller was great at setting teammates up, while Arenas is a shoot first player.
</div>

Philly doesn't have much offensively beyond Iggy and Miller, at least in a 3rd threat.

Arenas is a dominant primary ballhandler who made Larry Hughes into a 22/6/5 guy, and was able to run an offense in which 3 guys scored 25.5, 22.0, and 19.6 per game. The being "dominant primary ballhandler" isn't using stats, though I do use stats to show how effective he is at setting up his teammates.

Granted, my team has Iggy instead of Hughes; I'd hope he'd do better. I also spent my 3rd round pick on a pretty solid defensive C who averaged a double-double - he's not going to be that third scorer, something that would clearly differentiate this team from a 40-42 kind of record/team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 3 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Arenas didn't make Hughes a 22/6/5 guy. It's called a contract year.</div>

Yeah, i guess arenas sucks. Trade him to you for your 12th round pick?

LOL
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 3 2008, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 3 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Arenas didn't make Hughes a 22/6/5 guy. It's called a contract year.</div>

Yeah, i guess arenas sucks. Trade him to you for your 12th round pick?

LOL
</div>

I never said Arenas sucks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 3 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Arenas would be over Andre. Andre was the catalyst on that team. He really was a big piece.

Of course Arenas is the better player, but in this context, I'm not sure how much.</div>


Reading comprehension, FTW!
 
I am doing two drafts at a time. We are in the 7th Round & we started two days ago. Bayless is
a young guy with alot of potential.
 
FWIW, the snake part of the draft doesn't make it easy for a team drafting in my position to build the best team. In theory, the snake evens things out, but consider I've had two late picks in 2 of the first 3 rounds, and the players in those rounds are a cut above what's available in rounds 2-4 (where my picks are towards the front end).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 3 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>FWIW, the snake part of the draft doesn't make it easy for a team drafting in my position to build the best team. In theory, the snake evens things out, but consider I've had two late picks in 2 of the first 3 rounds, and the players in those rounds are a cut above what's available in rounds 2-4 (where my picks are towards the front end).</div>

I head that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Aug 3 2008, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 3 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>FWIW, the snake part of the draft doesn't make it easy for a team drafting in my position to build the best team. In theory, the snake evens things out, but consider I've had two late picks in 2 of the first 3 rounds, and the players in those rounds are a cut above what's available in rounds 2-4 (where my picks are towards the front end).</div>

I head that.
</div>
Uhm.
 
Smith, Kirilenko and Granger??

Essentially 3 SF's.....

 
What do you guys think of newly acquired J.R Smith?


Jose Calderon/ J.R Smith/Al Jefferson
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Aug 4 2008, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>both ak and smith can play pf. i guess that leaves granger at the 2.</div>


ummmmmmmmmmmmm
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Aug 4 2008, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>both ak and smith can play pf. i guess that leaves granger at the 2.</div>

ya, I'm just not a big believer in Smith or AK at PF. Granger at the 2 is a head scratcher to me too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Aug 4 2008, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>both ak and smith can play pf. i guess that leaves granger at the 2.</div>

ya, I'm just not a big believer in Smith or AK at PF. Granger at the 2 is a head scratcher to me too.
</div>

Agreed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Aug 4 2008, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>both ak and smith can play pf. i guess that leaves granger at the 2.</div>

ya, I'm just not a big believer in Smith or AK at PF. Granger at the 2 is a head scratcher to me too.
</div>

I'm having fun with this team, FYI it goes.

Smith - SF, PF, C

AK - SF, PF

Granger - SF, PF
 
I took these three guys because I really wanted them.

There were some guards that I looked at but they went way ahead of my pick. I got some offers for AK and Smith for another 4th rounder but that's not equal value, plus I really don't want to trade them.

The guys I choose are versatile players, you can move them around in the frontcourt which gives me some wiggle room in the later rounds.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Aug 4 2008, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I took these three guys because I really wanted them.

There were some guards that I looked at but they went way ahead of my pick. I got some offers for AK and Smith for another 4th rounder but that's not equal value, plus I really don't want to trade them.

The guys I choose are versatile players, you can move them around in the frontcourt which gives me some wiggle room in the later rounds.</div>

These guys are all fun to play with when it comes to roster building.
Threw me for a loop, I was like...he CAN'T be drafting a SF......
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Aug 4 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Aug 4 2008, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>both ak and smith can play pf. i guess that leaves granger at the 2.</div>

ya, I'm just not a big believer in Smith or AK at PF. Granger at the 2 is a head scratcher to me too.
</div>

Smith - C

</div>


nooooooooooooooooooo
 
LeBron and Mike Miller Duo FTW! If LeBron can take the Cavs to the Finals by himself, imagine what he'll do with Mike Miller being his side kick
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Miller is somewhat overrated.</div>

Since when? If anything, he's underrated. Miller shot 50% last year from the field and he's a 40% career 3pt shooter. Miller is a deadly shooter and is a good sidekick with LeBron, and Miller's athleticism is very underrated too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 4 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Miller is somewhat overrated.</div>

Since when? If anything, he's underrated. Miller shot 50% last year from the field and he's a 40% career 3pt shooter. Miller is a deadly shooter and is a good sidekick with LeBron, and Miller's athleticism is very underrated too.
</div>

I hear his defense is just outstanding
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 4 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 4 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Miller is somewhat overrated.</div>

Since when? If anything, he's underrated. Miller shot 50% last year from the field and he's a 40% career 3pt shooter. Miller is a deadly shooter and is a good sidekick with LeBron, and Miller's athleticism is very underrated too.
</div>

I hear his defense is just outstanding
</div>

Miller is average on D, how many players in the NBA these days actually play D anyways?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top