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rumor is Michigan has pulled the offer of *4 TE/DE verbal commit Pharaoh Brown following his OV to Oregon last weekend. Rivals no longer lists him as a commit

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STOMP
 
Stanford kid is a good get.


I am still looking for more help on both lines and in the secondary to make me breathe easier
 
Mediocre Man said:
Stanford kid is a good get.


I am still looking for more help on both lines and in the secondary to make me breathe easier
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D-Line is set, and O-line needs some help. Watching the USC game, though, it was clear that WR is the weak link of the UO offense this year. That should change with all of the RS guys this year. I also expect Vaughn to improve dramatically after a full year in the system. The secondary is fine as well. It's just very young, other than Pleasant.
 
Stanford is exactly the kind of commit that excites me. Big, strong, fast, intelligent (good GPA) and knows he has areas to work on. Big target to throw to and should be an excellent blocker. He's got a great frame - standing next to a DE - he looks nearly as wide and solid.

Exciting news as most of us were waiting for that big time WR.

He's got great yards after catch, stiff arms and jukes in this vid!
 
I have to laugh at Scout having Stanford as a 3-star. The guy was offered by tOSU, LSU, 'Bama, etc., yet the Husky Honks at Scout of course have to downgrade him since he's an Oregon commit.

Had UW got the verbal, I assume he'd be elevated to a 5-star. ;)
 
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I have to laugh at Scout having Stanford as a 3-star. The guy was offered by tOSU, LSU, 'Bama, etc., yet the Husky Honks at Scout of course have to downgrade him since he's an Oregon commit.

Had UW got the verbal, I assume he'd be elevated to a 5-star. ;)
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In fairness to the bias that is Scout, 247 sports also has him listed as a 3*. Both ESPN and Rivals have him as a 4* though


No idea if there are any other scouting sites
 
true, but I believe 247 is run by former scout people. Or is it that Hopkins was at Scout before?

either way, I'm very excited about this get. Thanks for the text to start off the day with this good news Stomp!
 
OK. I finally shelled out for ESPN Insider (they let us opt out of ESPN the Magazine now, which is fantastic; I actually didn't renew partly because I was sick of getting that oversized magazine in my mailbox every two weeks and having to recycle it).

As a result, I should be able to post more info about recruiting, etc. I enjoy all the rumors and announcements we share with one another here and hoping to give back a little more than I have. :)

First thing? A blog post from a couple of days ago about Arik Armstead where he recapped his Oregon visit. Some quotes from him:

“I really liked it a lot,” Armstead said. “I can’t say one trip was better than another [he's also been to Notre Dame and Alabama] but the visit to Oregon was probably where I was most comfortable. I think that’s mostly because I was familiar with the coaches and some of the players and plus being on the same time zone played a part too.
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It was a tough loss for Oregon but the game atmosphere was incredible and I loved the fan support and how passionate everyone was.
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He is still going to visit Texas (on Dec 9) and Auburn (at some point in December).

He also said that he met with Altman and likes where the basketball team is headed AND that he wants to make a decision in December (although he doesn't have a firm deadline for himself).

Ed O.
 
hmmm if Armstead truly feels that way (about being most comfortable) that could bode very well for us. Especially if is his parents really loved the trip too. Thanks!
 
STOMP said:
rumor is Michigan has pulled the offer of *4 TE/DE verbal commit Pharaoh Brown following his OV to Oregon last weekend. Rivals no longer lists him as a commit

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More on Pharaoh Brown from a Nov 23 blog entry on ESPN.com:

So I wanted to look at some schools to see how I would fit in as a tight end, that’s all. I wasn’t thinking the offer would get pulled but I talked to the coaches [at Michigan] after my visit and they told me I was no longer considered a commit there but they would still pursue me, along with other players at my position now.
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“I really enjoyed myself there,” Brown said. “Even though the team lost, they have a great football program and the atmosphere was incredible. I love the coaches and I got along really well with all the players. I didn’t really have one host, I hung out with everyone and they all treated me very well. ”
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Looking at the teams recruiting him, Michigan, Nebraska and Oregon appear to be the "big boys" in terms of best programs... Vandy is the only SEC team that's offered to him, it appears.

Anyway, it's interesting that Oregon looks like they're willing to give players what they want, in terms of playing a position, to get them in the door. IIRC, letting DAT play on offense was important to luring him to Eugene...

Ed O.
 
On Armstead, I've heard that even though he will be visiting Texas and Auburn that they're not serious players for him(unless they impress the shit out of him) because everybody is saying he's going to stay on the West Coast.
 
Da_O said:
On Armstead, I've heard that even though he will be visiting Texas and Auburn that they're not serious players for him(unless they impress the shit out of him) because everybody is saying he's going to stay on the West Coast.
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If he stays in the West, I bet he's either gonna go back to USC or he'll be playing for the Ducks... Oregon is the only team out west that he did one of his five official visits to.

When he first uncommitted from USC, he had this to say:

"I have my visit to Notre Dame this weekend and I'm visiting Alabama (Nov. 4)," he said. "I'm also looking at Cal, Washington and Michigan for my last few visits, but I think after word gets out that I've de-committed, I think a few more schools will come calling as well and I'm definitely open to that."
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(From an Oct 17 story; not Insider.)

Interesting how quickly things have shifted for him...

Ed O.
 
Interesting stuff on Arik Ed. From what I gather it's a two horse race for his talents between us and Cal. Your thoughts on Pharoah touch on a key difference between Oregon and others... we let the players choose their position, the coaches decide who plays. Kelly feels he gets a more committed player if they're going out for the spot they want to play at.

btw... on OVs for the OSU game were recent stud RB commit Byron Marshall, TE Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick who is a HS teammate of QB commit Jake Rodriguez, and RB Ryan McDaniel

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according to chatter, it's probably down to us and Iowa for *4 DT Faith Ekakitie. Here's a link to his blog... http://faithflex.com/ He's yet to post his thoughts on his Oregon-USC visit but it should be any day

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Jalen Cope Fitzpatrick was impressed.

"This trip definitely changed my perspective on Oregon in a good way," Cope-Fitzpatrick said. "It went surprisingly good I felt. I loved the atmosphere and the fans at the game."

One aspect really caught his eye while on the visit.

"The people," he said. "From the fans to other people I ran into, they were all so nice and had a positive attitude. I just loved all of the people I met. The team was awesome too, they had great chemistry together and that's not something you can coach. It was a real tight group and I love that."

Oregon tight ends David Paulson and Colt Lyerla showed up big in the victory. Their presence was noted by Cope-Fitzpatrick who had heard otherwise about Oregon's use of the tight end.

"The rumor got dispelled while I was there," he said. "Oregon's tight ends catch the rock a lot and I know Paulson is out there on almost every snap it seemed like."

The visit to Oregon was his first official visit. Cope-Fitzpatrick said he still intends to visit USC and Colorado but has no firm date circled yet.

"I'm still committed to USC right now. I'm keeping my options open and after I take these three trips I will make my final decision. Nobody else is really recruiting me besides these three, so they are the only ones I'm really considering."
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Really too bad DeForest Buckner couldn't make it here last Saturday. I like tall defensive lineman, anything to make those throwing lanes seem ever smaller is okay with me.
 
from what I gather, Oregon is high on Buckner's wish list so he'll be out when he can. HS football playoff games have been getting in the way.

The Ducks definitely seem to target the sort of taller defensive lineman you prefer. It's rare for them to go after someone who doesn't fit that description

STOMP
 
I don't really understand the whole "scout bias" recruiting routine. Star ratings are subject, at best, anyway. Sometimes scout has someone higher, other times not. But, ratings are what they are.

Also don't understand the claim scout jacks up UW recruits, when they only have two four stars and the remaining are two and three. I've noticed a few changes in grade as more player info comes out, but haven't seen any significant bias.

Last thought - rivals and scout use a different star rating matrix. Pay more attention to the number ranking national/state. I've seen scout rank a player higher nationally, but have a lower star rating compared to rivals.

Either way, the value of either is subjective.
 
*4 DT Faith Ekakitie eliminated the Ducks from consideration today... guess I was reading the wrong tea leaves

STOMP
 
dang I was hoping we'd land him.
 
Targus said:
I don't really understand the whole "scout bias" recruiting routine. Star ratings are subject, at best, anyway. Sometimes scout has someone higher, other times not. But, ratings are what they are.

Also don't understand the claim scout jacks up UW recruits, when they only have two four stars and the remaining are two and three. I've noticed a few changes in grade as more player info comes out, but haven't seen any significant bias.
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Scout is owned and operated by UW grads so there is the suspicion on bias. Rivals is owned by non-Ducks or Huskys. If you look at how the two sites rate the classes of Washington and their arch rival Oregon, this 2012 class scout has Ore/Washington rated the 26th/37th classes in the country. Rivals has the same two classes rated 21 and 47. For last years class Scout had Ore/UW at #14 & #21 while rivals had them pegged #9 & #23. In 2010 Scout had Oregon rated with the #13 class and Wash with the #11 while rivals had them at #13 & #28. The trend isn't too tough to pick up on.

Besides not having the suspicion on bias against my rooting interest, rivals is more stingy in handing out it's ratings then scout. They anoint less 5 & 4 star kids, so their designation means more.

STOMP
 
Good info and I appreciate it.

Here's a good read on the differences between Rivals, Scout and ESPN - specifically when and how they rate players.

I understand scout is suspect, simply based on where they graduated, but most likely, everyone has some kind of bias and alliance to somewhere. What I don't get is dismissing all things scout simply because of claims they jack up certain teams rankings. All ratings are subjective, slightly different and can be a general guideline for a recruit or class - but not scientific and often none are accurate.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117345-recruiting-for-beginners-part-i-how-are-players-ranked
 
Rumors circulating that Oregon just got a commitment today. Apparently it's a 4 star but they haven't divulged who it is yet.

People on DT are guessing DJ Foster or Pharoah Browne
 
Actually everyone is saying Kevon Seymour. That would be huge. The only info I'm getting is he's a recruit that doesn't give many interviews, and if that's so that fits Seymour based on what I've heard.

I'll let everyone know right when I find out.
 
Reggie Daniels

EDIT: Stomp beat me to it. >.<
 
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