2012 Free Agency

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Not a huge fan of Sessions, the guy cannot shoot from the outside.....you put him out there with the inconsistent dup of Matthews and Batum...and ugh....another season of teams packing it in on Aldridge and watching our SG\SF and PG brick shots from the outside.....
 
There are a lot of PG free agents but not many starters ones after Dwill and Nash:
I put the ones in bold that I wouldn't mind on the team. (Not all as starters) i did not even bother with DWill or Nash)

Deron Williams, Brooklyn Nets – $16.4 million – Player Option ($17.8 million)
Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns – $11.7 million – Unrestricted
Aaron Brooks, Phoenix Suns – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
Raymond Felton, Portland Trail Blazers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
Kirk Hinrich, Atlanta Hawks – $8.0 million – Unrestricted
Jason Kidd, Dallas Mavericks – $8.6 million – Unrestricted
Andre Miller, Denver Nuggets – $7.8 million – Unrestricted
Chauncey Billups, L.A. Clippers – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
Jameer Nelson, Orlando Magic – $7.8 million – Player Option ($7.8 million)
D.J. Augustin, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.2 million – Restricted ($4.4 million Qualifying Offer)
Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks – $10.7 million – Unrestricted
George Hill, Indiana Pacers – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
Jordan Farmar, Brooklyn Nets – $4.0 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)
Leandro Barbosa, Indiana Pacers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
Goran Dragic, Houston Rockets – $2.1 million – Unrestricted
Jerryd Bayless, Toronto Raptors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)
Derek Fisher, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
Randy Foye, L.A. Clippers – $4.3 million – Unrestricted
Mo Williams, L.A. Clippers – $8.5 million – Player Option ($8.5 million)
Jonny Flynn, Portland Trail Blazers – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
Keyon Dooling, Boston Celtics – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
Ishmael Smith, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Ramon Sessions, L.A. Lakers – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.6 million)
Jeremy Lin, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
Sundiata Gaines, Brooklyn Nets – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
A.J. Price, Indiana Pacers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
Baron Davis, New York Knicks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
Royal Ivey, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
John Lucas, Chicago Bulls – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
Gilbert Arenas, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.4 million – Unrestricted
Jannero Pargo, Atlanta Hawks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Delonte West, Dallas Mavericks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Walker Russell, Jr., Detroit Pistons – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
Darius Morris, L.A. Lakers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Terrell Harris, Miami HEAT – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Carldell Johnson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
DeAndre Liggins, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Ronnie Price, Phoenix Suns – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
T.J. Ford, Golden State Warriors – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Anthony Carter, Toronto Raptors – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
Roger Mason, Washington Wizards – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Jamaal Tinsley, Utah Jazz – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)
Donald Sloan, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
Manny Harris, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
Patty Mills, San Antonio Spurs – $0.3 million – Unrestricted*
Courtney Fortson, Houston Rockets – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
Mike James, Chicago Bulls – $0.6 million – Unrestricted
Jerome Dyson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
Ben Uzoh, Toronto Raptors – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
Armon Johnson, Brooklyn Nets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
Earl Boykins, Houston Rockets – $0.2 million – Unrestricted
Blake Ahearn, Utah Jazz – $0.1 million – Unrestricted
 
He's not starter quality yet, but if we're looking at Kendall Marshall... wouldn't Darius Morris warrant consideration as well?
 
He's not starter quality yet, but if we're looking at Kendall Marshall... wouldn't Darius Morris warrant consideration as well?

I agree with you....

Dragic, Hill would be my 1st 2 options.
 
knicks cant match if they dont get his bird rights

but if they do get to keep his early bird rights, he would fall under the "gilbert arenas provision", stating

Before 2005 it was sometimes possible to sign restricted free agents to offer sheets their original teams couldn't match. This happened when a player was an Early Bird or Non-Bird free agent (see question number 25) and the team didn't have enough cap room to match a sufficiently large offer. For example, Gilbert Arenas was Golden State's second round draft pick in 2001, and became an Early Bird free agent in 2003. Golden State could only match an offer sheet (or sign Arenas directly) for up to the amount of the Early Bird exception, which was about $4.9 million at the time. Washington signed Arenas to an offer sheet with a starting salary of about $8.5 million, which Golden State was powerless to match.

This loophole was addressed starting with the 2005 CBA (although not closed completely -- see below). Teams are now limited in the salary they can offer in an offer sheet to a restricted free agent with one or two years in the league. The first-year salary in the offer sheet cannot be greater than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25). Limiting the first-year salary in this way enables the player's original team to match the offer sheet by using the Early Bird exception (if applicable -- see question number 25), or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (provided they have it and haven't used it already)1.

The second-year salary in such an offer sheet is limited to the standard 4.5% raise. The third-year salary can jump considerably -- it is allowed to be as high as it would have been had the first-year salary not been limited by this rule to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception2. The salary in the fourth season may increase (or decrease) by up to 4.1% of the salary in the third season. The offer sheet can only contain the large jump in the third season if it provides the highest salary allowed in the first two seasons, it is fully guaranteed, and it contains no bonuses of any kind.
 
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Rumors: Suns to pursue Gordan Dragic? + Maurice Williams done with Clippers? http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

:drama: :suspense:


How can there not be a damn smiley for drama or suspense? How can I add a duh duh duh without it sounding like I am mocking someone as No duh?
 
Sean Deveney ‏@SeanDeveney
#Suns will pursue Goran Dragic, which is good bc he tells Sporting News he has fond memories of PHX:
 
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Dragic tells SN his first choice is the #Rockets. But: "Definitely, I want to be a starter in the NBA. I know I can be a first point guard."
 
Sean Deveney ‏@SeanDeveney
Dragic tells SN his first choice is the #Rockets. But: "Definitely, I want to be a starter in the NBA. I know I can be a first point guard."

This is down in your neck of the woods, what's the buzz on Drajic? Do you think he will take teh most money offered to him or will he likely stay in Houston if they offer a fair amount? (Assuming Houston assure Drajic the starting gig)
 
This is down in your neck of the woods, what's the buzz on Drajic? Do you think he will take teh most money offered to him or will he likely stay in Houston if they offer a fair amount? (Assuming Houston assure Drajic the starting gig)

Local radio here thinks they will let his agent know they will re-sign him for a certain dollar amount and deal Lowry on draft night
 
Apparently he wants to be here, and the team wants him to be here. Money I guess won't be an issue

I would have to believe then that Lowry is definitely gone, he is not going to be happy if Dragic signs, better to trade Lowry draft night then when he really starts complaining after they sign Dragic
 
I would have to believe then that Lowry is definitely gone, he is not going to be happy if Dragic signs, better to trade Lowry draft night then when he really starts complaining after they sign Dragic

Lowry and McHale don't really get along anyway
 
Would Dragic choose Portland over Phoenix or Houston? Only if we offered a shit load more money. in other words if we way over paid for him. So for all of you who want to pass on a PG in the draft and focus on a free agent to fill this position, be prepared to get a Aaron Brooks or a DJ Augistin. (And maybe over paying for them as well.

I find myself falling deeper and deeper into the Lillard camp at # 6. I am not totally sure that is the right pick, but if it is between him and Drummond I say go small.
 
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Would Dragic choose Portland over Phoenix ro Houston? Only if we offered a shit load more money. in other words if we way over paid for him. So for all of you who want to pass on a PG in the draft and focus on a free agent to fill this position, be prepared to get a Aaron Brooks or a DJ Augistin. (And maybe over paying for them as well.

I find myself falling deeper and deeper into the Lillard camp at # 6. I am not totally sure that is the right pick, but if it is between him and Drummond I say go small.


Maybe talking with some agents, Olshey is discovering it might be best to draft a PG rather than settle on choice D
 
Would Dragic choose Portland over Phoenix or Houston? Only if we offered a shit load more money. in other words if we way over paid for him. So for all of you who want to pass on a PG in the draft and focus on a free agent to fill this position, be prepared to get a Aaron Brooks or a DJ Augistin. (And maybe over paying for them as well.

I find myself falling deeper and deeper into the Lillard camp at # 6. I am not totally sure that is the right pick, but if it is between him and Drummond I say go small.

I agree the only way to get Drajic is offer more money than any other team . . . but I don't think it takes a shit load more money, maybe just an extra million /yr for 4 years???
 
I agree the only way to get Drajic is offer more money than any other team . . . but I don't think it takes a shit load more money, maybe just an extra million /yr for 4 years???

Good point. What do you think will be the initial offers? 11-12 million a year? So we would have to offer about 13 million a year?

Good luck making that amount and not feeling the wrath of the home team fans when you don't play like you are paid. That extra pressure he will get by simply accepting the offer is often the kiss of death to a player. When it isn't really their fault.
 
Good point. What do you think will be the initial offers? 11-12 million a year? So we would have to offer about 13 million a year?

Good luck making that amount and not feeling the wrath of the home team fans when you don't play like you are paid. That extra pressure he will get by simply accepting the offer is often the kiss of death to a player. When it isn't really their fault.

I don't know enough to make a good guess on what Dragic's market rate is. 13 mil/yr sounds like a shocking number to me when it comes to Drajic. But one of the few advantages that Ptd has is a owner who can be aggressive with contracts and if Drajic priority is financial security, Blazers got a shot. Don't know if it the right move, but a move the Blazers can make (if Dragic main priority is money)
 
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I don't know enough to make a good guess on what Dragic's market rate is. 13 mil/yr sounds like a shocking number to me when it comes to Drajic. But one of the few advantages that Ptd has is a owner who can be aggressive with contracts and if Drajic priority is financial security, Blazers got a shot. Don't know if it the right move, but a move the Blazers can make (if Dragic main priority is money)

Just like the year we had capspace in 2008 (I think that's right?) the free agent crop was really anemic and thus Hedo got paid 11 million a year. Dragic plays at much more important position, he's far younger and so he's also going to command a lot of money he might not in a deeper pool of talent.
 
Good point. What do you think will be the initial offers? 11-12 million a year? So we would have to offer about 13 million a year?

Good luck making that amount and not feeling the wrath of the home team fans when you don't play like you are paid. That extra pressure he will get by simply accepting the offer is often the kiss of death to a player. When it isn't really their fault.

Do you really think his market number is 11-12 million per? Isn't the max 14 per? There is no way he is even close to a near max deal. This is the stupidity that created the lockout and sadly these owners will go right back to doing what got them in trouble in the first place.
 
Ryan Wolstat: Nash has tough call to make: Comfort and money = Phoenix; Close to kids but way less money = NY. Close to parents and money = PDX ... 4 minutes ago
 
If Dragic makes more then 8m a season then whoever pays him is going to commit suicide when the new CBA kicks in.
 

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