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SMU? That's what you're hanging your Lillard hat on? I rest my case.

You've jumped from bandwagon to bandwagon during this run-up to the draft, with you being so absolutely sure you're right on each new bandwagon.

Can you please post some of your draft calls from previous years to show us your track record that proves you have any idea what you're talking about?
 
You've jumped from bandwagon to bandwagon during this run-up to the draft, with you being so absolutely sure you're right on each new bandwagon.

Can you please post some of your draft calls from previous years to show us your track record that proves you have any idea what you're talking about?
Willie Warren!!
 
You've jumped from bandwagon to bandwagon during this run-up to the draft, with you being so absolutely sure you're right on each new bandwagon.

Can you please post some of your draft calls from previous years to show us your track record that proves you have any idea what you're talking about?

Anyways.

Carry on.

:lol:
 
You've jumped from bandwagon to bandwagon during this run-up to the draft, with you being so absolutely sure you're right on each new bandwagon.

Can you please post some of your draft calls from previous years to show us your track record that proves you have any idea what you're talking about?
if he jumped bandwagons to every player in years past he could pull something up where he touted the guys that panned out. It would be more fun to tally all the bandwagons fez has jumped on the past few drafts.
 
Even though he was the 6th man at Syracuse this past season, Waiters emerged from a talented group of Orange perimeter players to become the most effective scorer and top perimeter defender on the team. This came after a difficult freshman year, after which he almost transferred. It’s always a good sign when a player accepts a challenge and improves his game rather than looking for greener pastures.

The most impressive number Waiters posted was a 3.0 S40 (Steals per 40 minutes). Combined with his 21.0 P40 and .529 2-point percentage this puts Waiters in some elite company among college sophomore SGs. I found only 3 other SGs who accomplished this in recent years.

But in a draft that’s void of stars after the top pick, Waiters is the type of player who should intrigue teams drafting in the top 10. He’s one of the few players after Anthony Davis who has actually shown some signs of dominance at the college level. Considering his diverse set of skills and the fact that he’s just a soph with a lot of upside, Waiters is a potential all-star who shouldn’t fall out of the top 5.

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Lillard’s stock has risen steadily all season. This isn’t surprising, as he has made some nice improvements in his game as a 4th-year junior. My suspicion is the dearth of PG prospects available in 2012 has teams grasping for any player who looks close to being capable and they’re overrating Lillard because of it.

I have trouble seeing Lillard as a pure PG. His top college assist rate in his 4 seasons was 4.7 A40 in his 3rd year, which was less than 300 minutes due to injury. It’s pretty rare for a player to become a top NBA PG without posting an A40 over 6.0 at least once in his college career. We’d have to go back to the 80s when Mark Price and Terry Porter overcame similarly low assist rates to become NBA stars. The best we’ve seen from high scoring/low assist college PGs recently have been gunners like Eddie House or Steve Kerr.

For a look at where Lillard stands here are some recent small college combo guards and their numbers. There have been 3 that topped 27 P40 like Lillard has and went on to pro success. I included some other recent small college players with similar stats, who weren’t as successful.

As far as the numbers, he’s a mixed bag. He looks like he can handle the offense, but I doubt he’s a pure PG. The number that worries me most is the 1.7 S40. The others on the list were well over 2.0. Most guards who make a successful jump from small colleges have a dominant steal rate. It’s a statistic, along with others, that shows NBA ability. That Lillard comes up short here is a big cause for concern.

I have my doubts that Damian Lillard can become more than a 3rd or 4th guard in the NBA. At best I see him as an instant offense player off a bench who can fill it up and run the offense semi-effectively for short stretches. At worst he’s just a gunner who doesn’t have the passing or defensive chops to get consistent court time. I wouldn’t use a lottery pick on him and I certainly wouldn’t draft him if a player with the upside of Waiters or Wroten were still on the board.
 
The Hornets promised either Zeller or Rivers at #10.

Which is the smokescreen?
 
There have been so many players the Blazers just HAD to draft. You can only jump from the bridge one time when we pass on somebody. This has become very complicated for you.

Right, right...

That's a totally awesome story, bro. :ghoti:
 
Hey guys - dunno if anyone had seen this or not. If not (or even if you have), thought I'd share it anyway:

Source: Fez Hammerpants

Even though he was the 6th man at Syracuse this past season, Waiters emerged from a talented group of Orange perimeter players to become the most effective scorer and top perimeter defender on the team. This came after a difficult freshman year, after which he almost transferred. It’s always a good sign when a player accepts a challenge and improves his game rather than looking for greener pastures.

The most impressive number Waiters posted was a 3.0 S40 (Steals per 40 minutes). Combined with his 21.0 P40 and .529 2-point percentage this puts Waiters in some elite company among college sophomore SGs. I found only 3 other SGs who accomplished this in recent years. But in a draft that’s void of stars after the top pick, Waiters is the type of player who should intrigue teams drafting in the top 10. He’s one of the few players after Anthony Davis who has actually shown some signs of dominance at the college level. Considering his diverse set of skills and the fact that he’s just a soph with a lot of upside, Waiters is a potential all-star who shouldn’t fall out of the top 5. -----------------------------------------

Lillard’s stock has risen steadily all season. This isn’t surprising, as he has made some nice improvements in his game as a 4th-year junior. My suspicion is the dearth of PG prospects available in 2012 has teams grasping for any player who looks close to being capable and they’re overrating Lillard because of it.

I have trouble seeing Lillard as a pure PG. His top college assist rate in his 4 seasons was 4.7 A40 in his 3rd year, which was less than 300 minutes due to injury. It’s pretty rare for a player to become a top NBA PG without posting an A40 over 6.0 at least once in his college career. We’d have to go back to the 80s when Mark Price and Terry Porter overcame similarly low assist rates to become NBA stars. The best we’ve seen from high scoring/low assist college PGs recently have been gunners like Eddie House or Steve Kerr.

For a look at where Lillard stands here are some recent small college combo guards and their numbers. There have been 3 that topped 27 P40 like Lillard has and went on to pro success. I included some other recent small college players with similar stats, who weren’t as successful. As far as the numbers, he’s a mixed bag. He looks like he can handle the offense, but I doubt he’s a pure PG. The number that worries me most is the 1.7 S40. The others on the list were well over 2.0. Most guards who make a successful jump from small colleges have a dominant steal rate. It’s a statistic, along with others, that shows NBA ability. That Lillard comes up short here is a big cause for concern.

I have my doubts that Damian Lillard can become more than a 3rd or 4th guard in the NBA. At best I see him as an instant offense player off a bench who can fill it up and run the offense semi-effectively for short stretches. At worst he’s just a gunner who doesn’t have the passing or defensive chops to get consistent court time. I wouldn’t use a lottery pick on him and I certainly wouldn’t draft him if a player with the upside of Waiters or Wroten were still on the board.
 
Waiters is a combo guard that has a shaky 3 pt shot and doesn't play as well against tougher competition.

While Waiters' play has tailed off against more difficult competition, especially during conference play, he's had a solid season on the whole, giving Orange fans a much better idea why he was the 23rd ranked player in his high school class.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1yqv2Fq6v
http://www.draftexpress.com
 
According to NBADraft.net:

Jerry West Loves Tyler Zeller
We hear that Tyler Zeller has entered the mix for the Warriors at the 7th pick because Warriors executive Jerry West loves him.
Seven seems awfully high for a player that many projected as a mid-late first coming into the season.
The team could always look to trade down a few spots to the 10-12 range and likely still be able to grab him.

Barnes Unpopular with Teammates
According to one NBA scout, Harrison Barnes excelled in predraft interviews but teammates were not so positive about him. There was nothing alarming said about him, just that he wasn't as popular or viewed as the team leader that some might expect. then again, Kobe Bryant was never considered the most team oriented socialite, and he's got 5 rings. Teammate Tyler Zeller was the player that nearly every player noted as being a great teammate and the team's MVP.

I actually like Zeller a lot. I would be perfectly happy if he was there at 11. I think he's a starting center in the NBA and might make LaMarcus happy. (I'm much higher on him than on Leonard, who hasn't done anything of importance yet.) Zeller got 20 boards in an important game. That's pretty impressive.
I also thought Barnes sounded incredibly slick. Used car salesman slick.
 
I wouldn't mind Henson at 11 with him being Serge Ibaka-esque last year when it comes to blocking shots and rebounding

Someone needs to teach him how to eat, though
 
I still dont see a guard that is worth the sixth pick. Then take into account how well we have done in the past decade drafting them..

Sixth has to be a big, 11th has to be BPA, waste the seconed rounders as you see fit.
 
I still dont see a guard that is worth the sixth pick. Then take into account how well we have done in the past decade drafting them..

Sixth has to be a big, 11th has to be BPA, waste the seconed rounders as you see fit.

Last guard we acquired during the draft in which they were drafted.... drafted #6..... B-ROY!
 
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