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westnob said:
So I would imagine Olshey has his own draft order, ie Pick these people if they are available. They just cross off whomever gets taken. But, would they continue on that order for 11, or do they have plans specific to who they get at 6. Ie: if we draft Lillard, we draft a SF. If we draft Barnes, then we draft a PG.
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I assume, unless someone shocking slides to 11 (or we get a PF/C at #6), we'll be taking Zeller/Henson/Leonard at #11.
 
westnob said:
So I would imagine Olshey has his own draft order, ie Pick these people if they are available. They just cross off whomever gets taken. But, would they continue on that order for 11, or do they have plans specific to who they get at 6. Ie: if we draft Lillard, we draft a SF. If we draft Barnes, then we draft a PG.
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I think if they get Lillard at #6, they will be looking to pick Zeller or Leonard at #11... maybe Ross. IMO
 
NBAdraft.net has been on that Mateen Cleves decline.

Draftexpress/SwishScout/Sheridan are the way to go.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I assume, unless someone shocking slides to 11 (or we get a PF/C at #6), we'll be taking Zeller/Henson/Leonard at #11.
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Yeah, if Waiters or Lamb is there they may have to think a bit. But, that probably makes a later trade more likely too.
 
It's a little rough but the player profiles are easily the best of any draft site on the net.
 
CLE after the #2 pick

"per Ken Berger:

Cleveland wants Beal and has offered the No. 4 pick and either the 33rd or 34th pick to Charlotte for the No. 2 pick, which would allow the Cavs to jump ahead of Washington and land the Florida guard. The hangup is that Charlotte, not in love with anyone available at No. 2, wants Cleveland's 24th pick. Cleveland also has had conversations with Sacramento (No. 5) and Golden State (No. 7), but the Charlotte deal makes the most sense and sources say there is enough momentum and desire on both sides to get it done. The Bobcats like Robinson and Barnes, and at least one of them will be available at No. 4; if Cleveland got Beal with the second pick, Washington might take Barnes at No. 3, sources said."
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Terrence Jones: "Whoever drafts him is going to have to keep a thumb on him, because he's not a self-starter. That's a problem at this level."
Ross: "Maybe the biggest sleeper in the draft"
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My sleepers for this draft. Terrence was made for the NBA, with the right coach/system he'll blossom. RipCity!
 
HailBlazers said:
My sleepers for this draft. Terrence was made for the NBA, with the right coach/system he'll blossom. RipCity!
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That first Indiana game this year really killed him. 4 pt, 1 reb, 6 TO. Ouch.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Do any of the workouts simulate that? NOPE. Back to cluelessville for you... FAMS! :devilwink:
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and thanks for proving my point....You just argued against yourself...


So once agan POR is going to take a guy b\c he shot the ball well in a 1 v none setting? Say it ain't so Olshey.....ugh....
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Are you not aware of the fact that they put the draftee's thru a ton of drills and situations before the media gets to see them shoot solo?
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Are you not aware that 1 vs none or vs a bunch of old coaches doesn't come CLOSE to simulating a real game situation let alone playing against top tier NBA competition?
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Do any of the workouts simulate that? NOPE
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Which was the point I was making, picking a player in ANY part b\c of how he did in a workout (See Martell Webster) is STUPID....
 
No way POR lets MKG slide past them....that would be asinine IMO...

I can see them making the choice to go Lillard if it is b\t him and Drummond, but if MKG or Barnes are there? You have to be fucking crazy to pass up on one of those guys...
 
Blaze01 said:
No way POR lets MKG slide past them....that would be asinine IMO...

I can see them making the choice to go Lillard if it is b\t him and Drummond, but if MKG or Barnes are there? You have to be fucking crazy to pass up on one of those guys...
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Yes this is where my thinking is at.
 
Blaze01 said:
No way POR lets MKG slide past them....that would be asinine IMO...

I can see them making the choice to go Lillard if it is b\t him and Drummond, but if MKG or Barnes are there? You have to be fucking crazy to pass up on one of those guys...
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I love MKG, but our biggest need right now is a perimeter scorer. Neither he or Barnes could bring that as much as Lillard conceivably would. MKG won't fall that far though. I see Robinson as the guy who falls to 5 and his talent is far too great to pass on, even with LaMarcus on the roster.
 
Philosophy question:
Is it wrong if Olshey is using jedi mind tricks to convince the rest of the league Lillard is better to draft than Barnes?
 
westnob said:
Philosophy question:
Is it wrong if Olshey is using jedi mind tricks to convince the rest of the league Lillard is better to draft than Barnes?
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Only if Lillard turns out to be better. Business is business.
 
westnob said:
Philosophy question:
Is it wrong if Olshey is using jedi mind tricks to convince the rest of the league Lillard is better to draft than Barnes?
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Only if you think Lilliard will make a better pro (FWIW, I kind of think both of them are going to be "blah")
 
westnob said:
So I would imagine Olshey has his own draft order, ie Pick these people if they are available. They just cross off whomever gets taken. But, would they continue on that order for 11, or do they have plans specific to who they get at 6. Ie: if we draft Lillard, we draft a SF. If we draft Barnes, then we draft a PG.
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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I assume, unless someone shocking slides to 11 (or we get a PF/C at #6), we'll be taking Zeller/Henson/Leonard at #11.
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So you think we will draft based on need and not based on the best player available…. With a lottery pick?

I sure as hell hope not.
 
AmirIcon said:
I love MKG, but our biggest need right now is a perimeter scorer. Neither he or Barnes could bring that as much as Lillard conceivably would. MKG won't fall that far though. I see Robinson as the guy who falls to 5 and his talent is far too great to pass on, even with LaMarcus on the roster.
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If Robinson slides to 5 I could definitely see the Kings picking Drummond or Lillard over him. That would probably be my dream scenario, Robinson falling to 6. Him and LaMarcus would be a fun pair to watch.
 
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Blaze01 said:
So once agan POR is going to take a guy b\c he shot the ball well in a 1 v none setting? Say it ain't so Olshey.....ugh....
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Yes... the quote clearly stated that the ONLY reason the Blazers are considering selecting him is because of one good workout at the practice facility. Clearly.
 
The thought of a guy like Thomas Robinson NOT going #2 and potentially dropping to #6 blows my mind, especially with a team like the Bobcats that need a guy just like him in every way.
 
blazerboy30 said:
Yes... the quote clearly stated that the ONLY reason the Blazers are considering selecting him is because of one good workout at the practice facility. Clearly.
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Well, he probably faced the best defenders in his life coming from Weber State in Dan Dickau and Hershey Hawkins. I'll give him that one. :devilwink:
 
Btw, Givony is posting an updated mock (Yahoo.com) today with a lot of draft buzz.
 
If we did somehow get Robinson, would we be just as interested in PJIII at #11? I’m pretty high on the guy; he could be one of the best players in this draft. If he didn’t have the question marks he has he’d be a top5 pick. That is the type of risk I want us to take at #11, not a guaranteed mediocre Zeller or Marshall. If we have Lamb or Rivers or whoever rated higher and they are still on the board then find, draft the BPA. But if those guys are gone and PJIII is our man we need to pull that trigger. I don’t care what position our first pick plays.

Olshey says he wants to stockpile assets regardless of position. He did this on the Clips when CP3, Mo Williams, Bledsoe, and Billups were 4 of their 6 best players all at the same position. If we had LaMarcus, Robinson, PJIII all on the roster they’d probably all be most effective at PF, they might be our three best players too, but it would repeat Olshey’s mantra.

Or if PJIII can play some SF like his agent thinks, can we roll with a starting unit of <FA PG>, Batum, PJIII, Trob, LMA? That could be real fun to watch. A two year deal of Nash leading the group would give an exciting mix of vets and youth.
 
PJlll bombed in a lot of his workouts. He wants to prove he's a SF, a SF that can't shoot.

No way.
 
I think the pick is going to be Lillard at #6...all signs sure point to that....

My only caveat is that if somehow one of Robinson\Beal\Barnes or MKG are there at #6, POR has to take them.....Maybe there is an outside chance that they go with a surprise pick like Waiters or Rivers (unlikely)...but if niether of those scenarios factor into the equation, then I will be surprised if Lillard is not the pick...have to come to grips with that...

I just hope though, at #6 he HAS to be a great player\pick, if he ends up as a mediocre PG (like a Jameer Nelson) or bench combo guard (like a Mo Williams or ugh...Nolan Smith )...then POR will have screwed themselves....I seriously hope I am wrong...I hope if they take him that he is a Kevin Johnson like all star caliber player...particularly because by drafting him they will be passing on guys like Waiters\Rivers\Lamb whom I think more highly of and forgoing a golden opportunity to move up\flip flop 1 spot with SAC (or CHA\CLE) to get a hold on one of those 4 players....

Done bagging on Lillard....I think... lol
 
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