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Lillard-haters.... Look at David Locke's twitter right now. Some fodder for you. I'm on my iPhone.
 
Lillard-haters.... Look at David Locke's twitter right now. Some fodder for you. I'm on my iPhone.

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports

In 2 Big Sky games v. Weber, Charles Odum of PSU went 19 of 31 from field and averaged 25 pts a game -- CHARLES ODUM

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports

Watching Damian Lillard getting annihilated defensively by Portland State's Charles Odum makes me wonder about Westbrook, Lawson, Rubio, etc

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Well, let's see:

Lillard in 2 games vs Portland St: 78 total points on 25-41 shooting

Odum - 38 total points on 12-22 shooting

What the hell is this guy talking about?
 
Since we've been talking about the three guards a lot here http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/06/25/NBA-draft/index.html, these are some insights from a NBA scout:

Seth Davis of SI.com has surveyed some NBA scouts for their thoughts on various first round prospects in Thursday's 2012 NBA Draft. Here's how a few of the guards linked to the Portland Trail Blazers graded out.
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Damian Lillard, 6-3 guard, Weber State: "He's the most unselfish scoring point guard I have ever seen. He's a great kid -- a great kid. He played more like a two in college, but he played on a team where if he didn't score 24 points, they wouldn't have won a game. Who was he supposed to pass to? He has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder, like he's out to prove people wrong."

Austin Rivers, 6-3 guard, Duke: "My biggest concern with him is size. He's never going to be a pure point because it's not in his personality. He's a capable passer, but he hasn't been a willing passer. He's hard to play with, frankly, because he dominates the ball. It depends on who the coach is. I did not like what I saw at Duke. I thought he was spoiled and selfish. He's a streaky outside shooter, not a great one."

Dion Waiters, 6-4 guard, Syracuse: "I'm a big fan. He's Dwyane Wade-ish. I don't know if he's pure enough to be a two, but he's just a baller. And he definitely has a little toughness in him. The only drawback is he's a little small, but he's thick, and he's a surly guy. He'll be an East Coast version of Rodney Stuckey. I would take him over Jeremy Lamb five times a day."
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There are some great insights on a lot of other guys in the draft in that article also.
 
David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports

In 2 Big Sky games v. Weber, Charles Odum of PSU went 19 of 31 from field and averaged 25 pts a game -- CHARLES ODUM

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports

Watching Damian Lillard getting annihilated defensively by Portland State's Charles Odum makes me wonder about Westbrook, Lawson, Rubio, etc

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Well, let's see:

Lillard in 2 games vs Portland St: 78 total points on 25-41 shooting

Odum - 38 total points on 12-22 shooting

What the hell is this guy talking about?

they played 3
 
RoyToy, he mentioned the last two games they played eachother in and only mentioned Lillard's D on Odum, not his Offense
 
I was responding to Blazinaway saying Lillard's agility numbers were concerning. Proves nothing is exactly my point. No one is saying he is only good because he measured out as well as D-Rose athletically. That's just one piece to the puzzle.

Never said they were " concerning" at all, said they weren't elite, and I like Lillard and have never "hated" on him as some like to term things. In reviewing the draft express combine testing numbers on Draftexpress for PG's and their various testing scores I have come to the conclusion they are pretty useless in gauging a prospect. Some of the guys who had the all-time best numbers in sprint/agility were never any good at all. Lillard had good/solid mumbers, easily good enough to forget them and judge him on his skills WITH the basketball in hands in a game situation. I'd be very happy with Lillard as a Blazer. Did his numbers show "elite" athleticism? frankly that's semantics and matter little in judging him IMO as I just explained. So I'll withdraw my question to MM and move on, lesst than 48 hrs to go - can't wait!
 
It's my personal opinion that some of us on this board should start trying to find something to get excited about with Damian Lillard
 
It's my personal opinion that some of us on this board should start trying to find something to get excited about with Damian Lillard

Mornin MM, still on the Meds? (had to ask), I'm taking it you think we are very likely drafting Lillard with our 6 pick? If we do make a move and get the #4 or #2 do you think it's to assure we get Lillard or to go after someone else?
 
Mornin MM, still on the Meds? (had to ask), I'm taking it you think we are very likely drafting Lillard with our 6 pick? If we do make a move and get the #4 or #2 do you think it's to assure we get Lillard or to go after someone else?

For at least two more weeks. Thanks for asking, BTW. I really hope I can continue them. One of the parents on my football team asked if I was doing something different, so I realize it was a problem. But as policy, I made his kid do gut busters after practice for a parent interrupting practice. No exceptions, parents.....tsk tsk


Just a hunch, people smarter than me and all that. (which doesn't really narrow it down)
 
For at least two more weeks. Thanks for asking, BTW. I really hope I can continue them. One of the parents on my football team asked if I was doing something different, so I realize it was a problem. But as policy, I made his kid do gut busters after practice for a parent interrupting practice. No exceptions, parents.....tsk tsk


Just a hunch, people smarter than me and all that. (which doesn't really narrow it down)

LOL what a hardass....
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
That about sums it up RT @Aykis16: Charlotte Bobcats seriously considering drafting Thomisson Kidd-Bealchrist with the #2 pick.
 
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Sacramento at No. 5 and Toronto at No. 8. Those are the picks still generating the most trade chatter on the eve of the NBA Draft
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
If @JayBilas, @GottliebShow, @franfraschilla and I were making all the picks, our Mock Draft would look like this:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...ba-draft-experts-make-their-picks-first-round

Bilas

6. Portland Trail Blazers
The pick: Harrison Barnes, North Carolina Tar Heels


Barnes is a skilled and athletic shooter with maturity and terrific potential to be a better pro than a college player. He shoots it particularly well in the midrange, and his athleticism allows him to have an impact at both ends of the floor. He's a good pick for the Blazers here. --


Frachilla
11. Portland Trail Blazers
The pick: Jeremy Lamb, Connecticut Huskies


The Blazers have already gotten one talented wing player in this mock draft in Barnes, and here they land another young perimeter guy to surround All-Star power forward LaMarcus Aldridge. Lamb can thank his dysfunctional UConn team for causing him to drop this far in the draft, but Portland will be glad that he's available. He has shown he can shoot the deep ball, but it is his 60 percent shooting inside the arc that impresses me most. It proves that he can also score at the rim and in the mid-range. -- F.F.
 
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