2013-14 All NBA teams?

[Rz4k]

These votes are literally all about reputation rather than actual play. Parker should not have been second team after how bad his play this past regular season was, but got the nod due to how well he played in last year's playoffs. All-NBA selections have become as horrid as the DPOY award.

 

[H.C.]

He's just arguing to argue. He goes back and forth with his opinions. I'm surprised you're taking him at all seriously. Take my approach and just take whatever idiotic post he writes and make your next post more ridiculous.

*shrugs*

It's the same amount of ridiculousness that came @ me when I posted about the Blazers and the 3ball.
*rolls eyes*

Yes copy PapaG, make up sources and talk about all the pant shitting going on while you sit in the tub and jerk one out to LA taking 18 foot jumpers on YouTube. We should nominate you for a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

isn't this derogatory? offers nothing to disprove the statement I made in the previous post?
not directed @ me parse but still.
Mods?

 

[cmeese47]

Uuo

These votes are literally all about reputation rather than actual play. Parker should not have been second team after how bad his play this past regular season was, but got the nod due to how well he played in last year's playoffs. All-NBA selections have become as horrid as the DPOY award.

He got the nod for being the statistical leader of the team with the nba's best record

 

[cmeese47]

*shrugs*

It's the same amount of ridiculousness that came @ me when I posted about the Blazers and the 3ball.
*rolls eyes*



isn't this derogatory? offers nothing to disprove the statement I made in the previous post?
not directed @ me parse but still.
Mods?

He said make your next post more ridiculous

 

[PapaG]

isn't this derogatory? offers nothing to disprove the statement I made in the previous post?
not directed @ me parse but still.
Mods?

I don't notify the mods of personal attacks. I subscribe to the theory that they should stand, so all posters can see them and then judge the poster making the attacks accordingly. Deleting them offers protection and emboldens those who can't make an argument on their own without resorting to name-calling.

 

[crandc]

A good player on a bad team will have padded stats because he/she will take a lot more than his/her "share" of shots. If there are 3 or 4 or even 5 good shooters on the floor, you're less likely to see one person racking up a huge percentage of the team's points (exeption when someone gets in the zone like LA did the first two playoff games v Houston). So a good player on a bad team may look "better" than a good player on a good team statwise.

Doesn't necessarily mean they are.

 

[Mediocre Man]

A good player on a bad team will have padded stats because he/she will take a lot more than his/her "share" of shots. If there are 3 or 4 or even 5 good shooters on the floor, you're less likely to see one person racking up a huge percentage of the team's points (exeption when someone gets in the zone like LA did the first two playoff games v Houston). So a good player on a bad team may look "better" than a good player on a good team statwise.

Doesn't necessarily mean they are.

I've seen the WNBA, all her's and she's are on bad teams. No need for you to include them in your his/her stuff

 

[Boob-No-More]

Its an award for the best players not the best teams.

Good players help their teams win more games.

There's a big reason the Minnesota Timberwolves had a losing record (yet again) and missed the playoffs (yet again) and a lot of that responsibility falls on their best player, Kevin Love. Minnesota was HORRIBLE in close games, and a lot of that was because their best player can't create his own shot and doesn't have a single, reliable go to move. He can be guarded straight up and doesn't require a double team. Go to 82games.com and look at Love's Clutch Statistics. The Wolves were -25.3 points/48 in clutch situations with Love on the floor. That's beyond pathetic.

Yes, he puts up huge individual stats - in losses and the first three quarters of most games. With the game on the line, Love sucks. And, that's why he'll never be the number one option on a good team (or even one with a winning record). He's a stat padding role player masquerading as a franchise player. He'd be a solid number 2 option on a playoff team, or a great number 3 option on a contender. But, if he's even going to make the playoffs, he NEEDS a teammate that can be the go to guy with the game on the line, because he's not, and never will be, that kind of player.

He's going to get a max contract, and unless he's the final piece, not the center piece, that puts a team over the top, that team will regret it for the length of his contract.

BNM

 

[crandc]

Sorry if it bothers you, MM, but I'll say he/she whenever I want.
I was going to say something a tad more X rated than "bothers you" but I decided to be nice today. Don't worry, it won't last.

BNM, you got me thinking of the Blazers records in close games, including v. Houston in playoffs. Good point.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Sorry if it bothers you, MM, but I'll say he/she whenever I want.
I was going to say something a tad more X rated than "bothers you" but I decided to be nice today. Don't worry, it won't last.

BNM, you got me thinking of the Blazers records in close games, including v. Houston in playoffs. Good point.

The Blazers and Timberwolves are a GREAT study in how to win/not win close games. Lillard (+23.1 points/48) and Aldridge (+11.4 points/48) were so much better than Love (-25.3 points/48) and Rubio (-25.0) in close game situations, and the reasons are obvious to anyone willing to look beyond the individual stats. As mentioned in my previous post, Love cannot create his own shot, doesn't have a reliable go to move and does not draw double teams when he has the ball. When Aldridge has the ball in the post, he has a number of go to moves and absolutely commands a double team - which frees up teammates for open looks. Rubio can't make, and is scared to death to take, a wide open jumper with the game on the line. Defenses don't respect his shooting (for good reason), back off him, play the passing lanes and downright DARE him to take a wide open jump shot, which he refuses to do. It got so bad, that the last couple months of the season, Rick Adelman benched Rubio in close games in favor of J.J. Barea. Lillard, on the other hand isn't afraid to take the big shot - in fact he lives for it. So, the Blazers have an excellent record in close game and the Wolves suck in close games. That's the difference between making the playoffs and being in the lottery yet again.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

You will get no argument here on that, his votes are hilarious. Ibaka, James, Jordan, PJ Tucker and Chris Paul was his all nba defense first team followed by Cory Brewer, Paul George, Anthony Davis, Sefolosha and Butler.

So wait, Sheridan voted LeBron 1st team all-defense, but NOT first team all-NBA. That makes no sense. LeBron is so much better defensively than James Harden, AND LeBron is also a MUCH better, more efficient offensive player than Harden. LeBron scores more (27.1ppg vs. 25.4ppg) shoots the ball better from both 2-point range (.622 vs. .515) and 3-point range (.379 vs. .366) and averages more assists (6.3 apg vs. 6.1 apg) and more rebounds (6.9 rpg vs. 4.7 rpg).

So, Sheridan acknowledges the obvious (LeBron is a far better defender than Harden), but ignores the equally as obvious (that LeBron is also better offensively) and selects Harden over LeBron for 1st team all-NBA? Is Harden REALLY that much better at flopping than King James? I'm willing to acknowledge that Harden is the premier flopper in the league, but it's not like LeBron is that far behind him in this one particular intangible.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

Sorry if it bothers you, MM, but I'll say he/she whenever I want.
I was going to say something a tad more X rated than "bothers you" but I decided to be nice today. Don't worry, it won't last.

BNM, you got me thinking of the Blazers records in close games, including v. Houston in playoffs. Good point.

So you're not sorry then?

Talking about NBA players. No reason to even bring up females unless we are talking about the cum buckets that line up outside their hotel rooms hoping to hit the child support lottery

 

[Mediocre Man]

So wait, Sheridan voted LeBron 1st team all-defense, but NOT first team all-NBA. That makes no sense. LeBron is so much better defensively than James Harden, AND LeBron is also a MUCH better, more efficient offensive player than Harden. LeBron scores more (27.1ppg vs. 25.4ppg) shoots the ball better from both 2-point range (.622 vs. .515) and 3-point range (.379 vs. .366) and averages more assists (6.3 apg vs. 6.1 apg) and more rebounds (6.9 rpg vs. 4.7 rpg).

So, Sheridan acknowledges the obvious (LeBron is a far better defender than Harden), but ignores the equally as obvious (that LeBron is also better offensively) and selects Harden over LeBron for 1st team all-NBA? Is Harden REALLY that much better at flopping than King James? I'm willing to acknowledge that Harden is the premier flopper in the league, but it's not like LeBron is that far behind him in this one particular intangible.

BNM

Harden and Lebron play different positions One making first team had nothing to do with the other. It's his vote for Blake Griffin first team over Lebron that is at task

 

[cmeese47]

Good players help their teams win more games.

There's a big reason the Minnesota Timberwolves had a losing record (yet again) and missed the playoffs (yet again) and a lot of that responsibility falls on their best player, Kevin Love. Minnesota was HORRIBLE in close games, and a lot of that was because their best player can't create his own shot and doesn't have a single, reliable go to move. He can be guarded straight up and doesn't require a double team. Go to 82games.com and look at Love's Clutch Statistics. The Wolves were -25.3 points/48 in clutch situations with Love on the floor. That's beyond pathetic.

Yes, he puts up huge individual stats - in losses and the first three quarters of most games. With the game on the line, Love sucks. And, that's why he'll never be the number one option on a good team (or even one with a winning record). He's a stat padding role player masquerading as a franchise player. He'd be a solid number 2 option on a playoff team, or a great number 3 option on a contender. But, if he's even going to make the playoffs, he NEEDS a teammate that can be the go to guy with the game on the line, because he's not, and never will be, that kind of player.

He's going to get a max contract, and unless he's the final piece, not the center piece, that puts a team over the top, that team will regret it for the length of his contract.

BNM

Pair Love with a clutch shooting guard like Lillard and I bet his numbers would increase.

 

[cmeese47]

Harden and Lebron play different positions One making first team had nothing to do with the other. It's his vote for Blake Griffin first team over Lebron that is at task

That really does not matter a lot of ballots moved Durant to guard or moved people around to make the most of their votes. Such as Mike Rice moving LA to Center in order to give him a first team vote.

 

[cmeese47]

The Blazers and Timberwolves are a GREAT study in how to win/not win close games. Lillard (+23.1 points/48) and Aldridge (+11.4 points/48) were so much better than Love (-25.3 points/48) and Rubio (-25.0) in close game situations, and the reasons are obvious to anyone willing to look beyond the individual stats. As mentioned in my previous post, Love cannot create his own shot, doesn't have a reliable go to move and does not draw double teams when he has the ball. When Aldridge has the ball in the post, he has a number of go to moves and absolutely commands a double team - which frees up teammates for open looks. Rubio can't make, and is scared to death to take, a wide open jumper with the game on the line. Defenses don't respect his shooting (for good reason), back off him, play the passing lanes and downright DARE him to take a wide open jump shot, which he refuses to do. It got so bad, that the last couple months of the season, Rick Adelman benched Rubio in close games in favor of J.J. Barea. Lillard, on the other hand isn't afraid to take the big shot - in fact he lives for it. So, the Blazers have an excellent record in close game and the Wolves suck in close games. That's the difference between making the playoffs and being in the lottery yet again.

BNM

It certainly helps that Portland has shooters to space the floor and help LA and Lillard in the clutch. Give Love more than Martin to space the floor with and I am sure he becomes more efficient. Rubio maybe an exciting passer and a quality defender but he should not be starting PG in this league. With his terrible shot it is easy for his man to leave him and double, unless he is playing Portland his man never has to fight through a screen to guard him on pick and roll. Rubio has to go in Minnesota for that team to have any future but it won't happen and Love will leave.

 

[PapaG]

Pair Love with a clutch shooting guard like Lillard and I bet his numbers would increase.

That still won't make teams double-team Love. Did you read anything BNM wrote?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

So you're not sorry then?

Of course not; why should she be?

That's what's called a Big City Apology. Totally justified in this situation, and the other person was just trying to start an argument about a poster instead of the subject.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Pair Love with a clutch shooting guard like Lillard and I bet his numbers would increase.

Which is why Love going to Los Angeles is so delicious-sounding, because modern Kobe is pretty bad in the clutch.

 

[crandc]

. Lillard, on the other hand isn't afraid to take the big shot - in fact he lives for it. So, the Blazers have an excellent record in close game and the Wolves suck in close games. That's the difference between making the playoffs and being in the lottery yet again.
BNM

And the difference between yet another first round exit and a playoff series victory!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Of course not; why should she be?

That's what's called a Big City Apology. Totally justified in this situation, and the other person was just trying to start an argument about a poster instead of the subject.

I know. No reason for her to bring up women in her post unless she wanted to provoke

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I think it's awesome that Lillard made it over Kyrie Irving.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I know. No reason for her to bring up women in her post unless she wanted to provoke

If you are that delicate and easy to provoke, everyone would do it, just to get a reaction out of you...

...oh wait.

 

[Boob-No-More]

It certainly helps that Portland has shooters to space the floor and help LA and Lillard in the clutch. Give Love more than Martin to space the floor with and I am sure he becomes more efficient.

I think you got that backwards. It is Aldridge drawing the double teams that generates the open looks for Batum, Matthews, Mo, etc., not the other way around. Teams double LaMarcus and then hope Batum and Matthews are having on off shooting night.

The problem is Love is his team's most prolific outside shooter. He attempted a whopping 505 3-pointers. Kevin Martin was second on the team at 297 3FGA. That's the definition of a stretch 4, and a stretch 4 does NOT draw double teams. Nobody is going to double team a slow-footed big man 23-feet from the basket. Love does not have a low post game. His scoring in the paint is almost exclusively off put backs.

I will say that Love is a smart player who knows his limits. He doesn't have the length or post moves of Aldridge, so he doesn't even try to post up. He camps out at the 3-point line and looks for someone else to create a scoring opportunity for him. Again, that's why Love would be a good second, or great third option, but will never be the first option on a playoff team.

BNM