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OregonHuskerMan said:
Unfortunately, a lot of teams have cap room this offseason - which means it may be a bidding war.
I can see 12 mill.
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Maybe in the past, but I think teams have learned their lesson. I think you'll see a few teams sit on unspent cap room, especially with the mother of all free agent bonanzas next year.

Question: has this past year helped or hurt Iguodala's stock? I say it's hurt it, even though Denver did much better in the regular season, because he kind of "blended in" and has shown that he's not ever going to score a buttload. And he didn't even get voted on to the all-defense team, which is supposed to be his strength.

Here's hoping he gets undervalued and can be snapped up at the end of free agency.
 
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Utah pick swap? This post below from another board:

The Jazz apparently have a deal on the table to move up in the draft. Portland recently worked out Tony Mitchell. This leads me to think that the Jazz could possibly swap their picks at #14 and #21 for Portland's #10. Does that sound plausible to you?

Players in the #14 range are expected to be Caldwell-Pope, Olynyk, Gobert, Giannis and whoever slips among Carter-Williams, Shabazz and Zeller.
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Portland doesn't need scoring. It need top 5-10 player in the league and defensive studs/ Minus Portland trading for or signing an all NBA type player, we need to focus on defense and nothing else
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I think they absolutely need more scoring....they need defense too, or at least a more ready willingness by the starters to play better defense...and a defensive big man type....

But they certainly use another top tier scorer...particularly if they make the playoffs...it can't be another 1-man show.
 
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Blazinaway said:
Utah pick swap? This post below from another board:

The Jazz apparently have a deal on the table to move up in the draft. Portland recently worked out Tony Mitchell. This leads me to think that the Jazz could possibly swap their picks at #14 and #21 for Portland's #10. Does that sound plausible to you?

Players in the #14 range are expected to be Caldwell-Pope, Olynyk, Gobert, Giannis and whoever slips among Carter-Williams, Shabazz and Zeller.
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The last time we switched with them it didn't work out very well.
 
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Blazinaway said:
Utah pick swap? This post below from another board:

The Jazz apparently have a deal on the table to move up in the draft. Portland recently worked out Tony Mitchell. This leads me to think that the Jazz could possibly swap their picks at #14 and #21 for Portland's #10. Does that sound plausible to you?

Players in the #14 range are expected to be Caldwell-Pope, Olynyk, Gobert, Giannis and whoever slips among Carter-Williams, Shabazz and Zeller.
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In that range, we might be able to get both Shabazz and Hardaway Jr, both of whom could easily end up better than whoever is available at #10. Multiple mid-range picks sounds better than one somewhat high pick in a crapshoot draft like this.
 
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handiman said:
In that range, we might be able to get both Shabazz and Hardaway Jr, both of whom could easily end up better than whoever is available at #10. Multiple mid-range picks sounds better than one somewhat high pick in a crapshoot draft like this.
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If you have a GM who has a real eye for talent (SA's GM for example), then you can make a killing with a two-fer deal like this one. I'm not 100% sold on Neil's eye for anything other than point guards, but we need one more of them anyway so fire away.
 
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handiman said:
In that range, we might be able to get both Shabazz and Hardaway Jr, both of whom could easily end up better than whoever is available at #10. Multiple mid-range picks sounds better than one somewhat high pick in a crapshoot draft like this.
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I'd rather swing big than to trade down.

Trade up for Len or Oladipo.
 
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Fez said:
I'd rather swing big than to trade down.

Trade up for Len or Oladipo.
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The Fez is correct.
 
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I'm liking an idea of trading the #10 pick for Gortat and offering Igoudala a 4 year 35m contract. Iggy isn't nearly as good as he used to be and had a very down year but he is a great defender and Gortat is a good defender and a big body. They would both help us out defensively and you could have either Iggy or Wes coming off the bench, would add to our depth and we would become a playoff team in the west. How good of a playoff team i'm not sure, I think we would be able to at least get to the second round.
 
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Fez Hammersticks said:
I'd rather swing big than to trade down.

Trade up for Len or Oladipo.
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Normally this is how I would feel too, but not in this draft. It would be great to move up, but IMO, it would also be great to swing big in a trade and then move down. You are right though....Swing big somewhere
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Normally this is how I would feel too, but not in this draft. It would be great to move up, but IMO, it would also be great to swing big in a trade and then move down. You are right though....Swing big somewhere
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always knew you were a swinger
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
The Asik to Portland dream lives!
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More reason to hope:

So what if Dwight Howard leaves? Here’s one thing you won’t see: the Lakers helping him find his dream team, or trying to salvage something for him, with a sign-and-trade. Barring a bonanza they don’t expect to be offered, insiders say the Lakers’ fallback position would be to bring back this team and bank the savings— almost $50 million in salary and luxury tax.

The Lakers, however, have no intention of taking Lin and Asik, or any two Rockets with the possible exception of James Harden and whomever. Knowing they had to rebuilt in the face of a financial doomsday, the Lakers acquired Howard, knowing they would have to pay him $23 million per, if they could get him to take it, because of his unique value. If they lose him, the Lakers would only pay that much for someone else they think has unique value.
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What's with Denver and losing damn near everything. Sac just hired their vp for their gm position.

And celtics/clips finalizing the doc and Garnett deal
 
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Adrian Wojnarowsk said:
i ‏@WojYahooNBA 7m
If Celtics and Clippers can finalize a deal that includes Doc Rivers, Kevin Garnett will waive his no-trade clause, league sources tell Y!
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I don't see why KG waiving the no-trade is a big deal.

He's washed up and should contemplate retirement.
 
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Yesterday, Colin Cowherd talked about a Dwight Howard for Chris Bosh trade. He said, and I agree, that it makes tons of sense for both teams.

And the rich get richer...
 
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DaLincolnJones said:
thanks for the link, great read
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You read faster than me. I just finished. Karl says that his contract had an unusual 3-year team option. Kroenke Jr. wouldn't commit, so Karl offered a 1-year renewal, but warned that one or two assistant coaches might split for greener pastures because of the 1-year horizon. He says he simply argued for a position, while Kroenke sent out rumors of insubordination. The same thing happened with Wally Walker when the Sonics fired him.

The Nuggets were .695 last season and .620 in his 8 1/2 years. His last losing season was 25 years ago when he coached Golden State. This off-season is strange because Hollins and del Negro were fired after .683 records. 6 of the 16 playoff coaches were fired before the playoffs ended.
 
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Rhal said:
I'm liking an idea of trading the #10 pick for Gortat and offering Igoudala a 4 year 35m contract. Iggy isn't nearly as good as he used to be and had a very down year but he is a great defender and Gortat is a good defender and a big body. They would both help us out defensively and you could have either Iggy or Wes coming off the bench, would add to our depth and we would become a playoff team in the west. How good of a playoff team i'm not sure, I think we would be able to at least get to the second round.
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Gortat has one yr left at 7 mil, how bout Koufus from Denver who has 2 yrs at a paltry 3 mil per?
 
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jlprk said:
You read faster than me. I just finished. Karl says that his contract had an unusual 3-year team option. Kroenke Jr. wouldn't commit, so Karl offered a 1-year renewal, but warned that one or two assistant coaches might split for greener pastures because of the 1-year horizon. He says he simply argued for a position, while Kroenke sent out rumors of insubordination. The same thing happened with Wally Walker when the Sonics fired him.

The Nuggets were .695 last season and .620 in his 8 1/2 years. His last losing season was 25 years ago when he coached Golden State. This off-season is strange because Hollins and del Negro were fired after .683 records. 6 of the 16 playoff coaches were fired before the playoffs ended.
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pretty impressive stuff. I also had cause to reflect on the Blazers past glories, when he spoke of how management had grown to believe that winning was easy..
 
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Stein's Twitter said:
Among scenarios Clips considering, sources say, is offer of Blake Griffin & Bledsoe in sign-and-trade pitch Lakers for Dwight after July 1
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So the Clips would basically end up as CP3/Crawford/Butler/KG/Dwight?
 
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Fez Hammersticks said:
I don't see why KG waiving the no-trade is a big deal.

He's washed up and should contemplate retirement.
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Hes still quite effective. If you're comparing him now to his prime years I guess you could say hes washed up but even now hes better than most bigs in the league. Hes been playing a very similar role to Bosh the last few years, except hes a better defender (well I guess they're about the same now but he also has incredible IQ on defense). Its not like adding Dwight, but he'd be a very nice get for the Clips.
 
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Stevenson said:
Yesterday, Colin Cowherd talked about a Dwight Howard for Chris Bosh trade. He said, and I agree, that it makes tons of sense for both teams.
And the rich get richer...
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That would be a sign-and-trade of Howard, so he has to agree to it. "Why wouldn't he?" you say. Because he doesn't want to be third banana. And he's never been pals with LeBron the way he seems to be with Paul.
 
Stevenson said:
Yesterday, Colin Cowherd talked about a Dwight Howard for Chris Bosh trade. He said, and I agree, that it makes tons of sense for both teams.

And the rich get richer...
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I thought two teams in luxury tax can't do a sign and trade?
 
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I think the Lakers add no salary cap, suck next year and make a big move next summer for a couple max players (when Kobe's 30M/ yr ends).

Bosh has 3 yrs left at 20M/yr (assuming he doesn't opt out) and I just don't see Lakers taking on that kind of contract.
 
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