2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

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James Ham @James_Ham 2 minutes ago
Confirming what others have heard on Tyreke Evans. 4 years/$44 mill plus incentives.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yeah, I love this. Supposedly Houston's entertaining the possibility of a Smith S&T for Asik, but Hickson is an automatic no-go. :crazy:
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Yeah it makes no sense because Hickson has become pretty reliable from the mid range area; which is a perfect compliment to Howard. Also, Houston wouldn't have to worry about Hickson's inability to defend as much. I think JSmooth would be a big issue; clogging the paint big time.
 
If this is the market for this years FA class, I can see why we can only afford Pachulia or Kaman. Good grief.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yeah, I love this. Supposedly Houston's entertaining the possibility of a Smith S&T for Asik, but Hickson is an automatic no-go. :crazy:
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Which "Smith" are you referring to, Josh? If so, he's a much better player and more in-line with Houston's vision of what they want out of their 3s and 4s in their wide-open style of play.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yeah, I love this. Supposedly Houston's entertaining the possibility of a Smith S&T for Asik, but Hickson is an automatic no-go. :crazy:
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that's stupidity IMO if it happened, only way I see Morey doin this if if Dwight demanded it, he will be way overpaid and is a horrible fit next to Dwight
 
Well, I think if we offer Kaman a VooDoo Donghut franchise, we just might land him.

Fuck the Lakers and their TV show -- we got donuts!

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This is what happens when a million teams have cap space and there aren't many quality players available.

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OregonHuskerMan said:
If this is the market for this years FA class, I can see why we can only afford Pachulia or Kaman. Good grief.
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have to agree, let some of these teams shoot their wads with stupid deals and there are often some good leftovers that can be picked up
 
Nikolokolus said:
Which "Smith" are you referring to, Josh? If so, he's a much better player and more in-line with Houston's vision of what they want out of their 3s and 4s in their wide-open style of play.
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LOLWUT?!?! HE is a really bad player to play with Howard.
 
Josh Smith like Aldridge is a borderline all-star. Not saying I’d trade them but he is clearly on another entire level from Hickson.
 
magnifier661 said:
LOLWUT?!?! HE is a really bad player to play with Howard.
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Josh Smith would be a bad player to pair with Howard? I'm not saying Smith is any world beater, but he's more prone to playing outside the paint than in it, which would compliment Dwight needing to occupy the paint, so spacing wouldn't be a problem. Both guys like to play up and down, which would compliment each other. As for Hickson, he makes his living off of garbage picked up around the rim which overlap a lot with Dwight's skillset and spacing would be an issue.
 
Draco said:
Josh Smith like Aldridge is a borderline all-star. Not saying I’d trade them but he is clearly on another entire level from Hickson.
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But It would be pretty obvious that Hickson would come at a much cheaper price than JSMooth. Houston couldn't use just Asik. They would need to send another 6-7 million in contracts to absorb cap hit.
 
magnifier661 said:
But It would be pretty obvious that Hickson would come at a much cheaper price than JSMooth. Houston couldn't use just Asik. They would need to send another 6-7 million in contracts to absorb cap hit.
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What would it matter if Hickson comes much cheaper when he wouldn't fit in?
 
Nikolokolus said:
Josh Smith would be a bad player to pair with Howard? I'm not saying Smith is any world beater, but he's more prone to playing outside the paint than in it, which would compliment Dwight needing to occupy the paint, so spacing wouldn't be a problem. Both guys like to play up and down, which would compliment each other. As for Hickson, he makes his living off of garbage picked up around the rim which overlap a lot with Dwight's skillset and spacing would be an issue.
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The problem with Smith is his inability to shoot from the perimeter. And when I mean perimeter; I'm talking mid range.

I will not argue that Josh Smith isn't better than Hickson. I think Smith is a fucking beast, but Smith will demand at least a 13-14 mil contract and Hickson probably around 8 mil. Also, Hickson's mid range game really improved last season.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Are you comparing Hickson to Smith?
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Sure, in that Hickson's PER was 2 points higher, had double the WS/48, had a significantly lower usage rate, and is 3 years younger. Hickson seems like a better match for Houston than Smith would be, and would certainly cost less too.

But what do I know?
 
Nikolokolus said:
The Lakers shenanigans are definitely suspect, but then again, I feel pretty confident that no team will ever win a championship with Dwight Howard as its best player. Especially if getting own TV show is what gets him to sign somewhere.
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No Kidding. A TV show during the season? Not sure how much focus that leaves for basketball.
If it is in the off season then he can easily do it playing in Houston. He will still have his home in SoCal.

The LA sports talk shows are always using "movies" as a extra benefit to be a Laker. But if you are a star, Hollywood will cast you regardless of where you play.
 
magnifier661 said:
The problem with Smith is his inability to shoot from the perimeter. And when I mean perimeter; I'm talking mid range.

I will not argue that Josh Smith isn't better than Hickson. I think Smith is a fucking beast, but Smith will demand at least a 13-14 mil contract and Hickson probably around 8 mil. Also, Hickson's mid range game really improved last season.
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Josh Smith, however, is a far superior defender.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Josh Smith, however, is a far superior defender.
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100% correct and absolutely worth a large 14 mil contract. What I am arguing is Houston can't just send Asik. They need to send Asik and around 5 more mil in contract to make it happen. Hickson could be an even swap.
 
Your forgetting Josh Smith is an elite defender and Hickson is one of the worst.
 
magnifier661 said:
100% correct and absolutely worth a large 14 mil contract. What I am arguing is Houston can't just send Asik. They need to send Asik and around 5 more mil in contract to make it happen. Hickson could be an even swap.
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Blazinaway said:
yes but is he worth probably an extra 7-8 mil more PER YR than JJ? and IMO he is a worse fit
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That's for Daryl Morey to decide. The cost/production curve is not linear; going from average to good to great gets geometrically more expensive at each step most of the time.
 
Draco said:
Your forgetting Josh Smith is an elite defender and Hickson is one of the worst.
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Smith is an elite defender at the 3. He's decidedly mediocre at the 4. Opponent production at PF for Smith and Hickson were very similar last year.

Nikolokolus said:
That was a single season, which is also a pretty good candidate for the outlier rule.
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Being that he's only 24 years old, it's also a good candidate for a "breakout season".
 
You are forgetting we did Houston a favor. That definitely accounts for something.
 
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