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MickZagger said:
I'm telling you. I think Neil has a plan up his sleeve to get this Prozingis kid. He could be the next Euro great like Pau and Dirk.
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Possibly Vonleh and #23 or some other value for Prozingis?
 
B-Roy said:
Gobert is good, but he's not going to be a two way star. Defensive prodigy and anchor for sure, but limited offensively.
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Stephen Curry is good, but he's not going to be a two way star. Offensive prodigy, for sure, but limited defensively.

(No, I'm not saying Gobert = Curry, it's just funny how people downplay the importance of defense. Well, since Bill Russell, anyway.)
 
Seems like it got very quiet all the sudden. Something big must be coming
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Stephen Curry is good, but he's not going to be a two way star. Offensive prodigy, for sure, but limited defensively.

(No, I'm not saying Gobert = Curry, it's just funny how people downplay the importance of defense. Well, since Bill Russell, anyway.)
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When was the last defense only superstar that people actually cared about? Ben Wallace?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
But Vonley has MUCH bigger hands!
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Rasta's doomsday scenario:

Batum traded :check:

Blazers trade up for Kristaps

He'll need an S2 intervention :blessed:
 
Boise Blazer said:
FWIW:

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Certainly looks good but you can't tell on this videos when they don't have someone beating and banging on them the whole time. Pair him against Okafor (or someone with length at least) to get a real judge of talent.
 
I don't know anything about any of the draftees, but I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED RIGHT NOW! Even though we just traded one of my favorite players I'm PUMPED about the possibility of MAJOR changes to our roster. We were never going to compete for a championship with last season's roster, so BIG changes were needed. I hope to see us make at least one more BIG move today.
 
blue9 said:
I don't know anything about any of the draftees, but I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED RIGHT NOW! Even though we just traded one of my favorite players I'm PUMPED about the possibility of MAJOR changes to our roster. We were never going to compete for a championship with last season's roster, so BIG changes were needed. I hope to see us make at least one more BIG move today.
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Wow, a post from when Steve Patterson was hired. Takes me back.
 
He can't shoot.

If he can't score more efficiently he'll be out of this league faster than you can say Johnny Flynn.
 
(I've already posted this, but)
In depth scouting report on Porzingis by a Euro who watched his Spanish team all season.
I quote:

"Porzingis does not have a great handle and is prone to getting the ball stripped, but has proven able to attack closeouts well enough to generate decent bail-out looks from mid-range. He uses the hop to get good elevation and create space for his fade-away pull-ups. Due to the high point in his release, he doesn’t need a lot of separation to avoid challenges. And when he decides to put his head down and attack the basket, he’s drawn shooting fouls at an appealing rate: 4.6 free throws per 40 minutes, converting them at a 75.2 percent clip.

It must be mentioned, though, that while he does look good shooting, Porzingis hit only 35.8 percent of his 117 3-point shots and failed to hit a 3-pointer in 22 of his 40 appearances. Shot creation on his team was iffy, even though one of his point guards is also likely to be drafted (Nikola Radicevic). His shooting percentages could improve simply by being around NBA-caliber playmakers, but the impact of his shooting might depend on the looks created for him.
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That magnificent one-on-zero workout held in Las Vegas has unfortunately given some people the wrong impression of Porzingis by hiding some of the gaps in his game. These gaps, in my opinion, make him a less appealing prospect than the top three shot creators (Jahlil Okafor, D’Angelo Russell and Emmanuel Mudiay) and the top two rim protectors (Karl-Anthony Towns and Willie Cauley-Stein).

Porzingis is not any sort of direct shot creator, for himself nor others. His handle is good enough for him to attack closeouts on straight line drives, but he’s susceptible to getting the ball stripped in traffic. It’s a big reason why he averaged 2.6 turnovers per 40 minutes. He hasn’t shown the ability to pass on the move when the defense converges on him, either, assisting on just 5.2 percent of Cajasol’s scores when he was on the floor last season.

Porzingis’ shooting is valuable, but it would have been more valuable three years ago. We are seeing more and more teams go small and simply play wings at his position, and Porzingis isn’t versatile enough to force teams out of playing small lineups. Due to his lack of strength, he’s not a threat in the post, mostly relying on his turnaround jump shot as go-to move because he is unable to set deep post position and back opponents down.

On defense, Porzingis does not have the strength to hold ground against bigger opponents and is only so-so guarding drives. He showed enough lateral mobility to stay in front of slower types in space, like Andres Nocioni and Will Thomas, but couldn’t contain dribble penetration through contact. He’s always going to be a threat for chase-down blocks, but in the NBA, once they get by you, it’s far more likely they’ll get to the rim before you get back to them.

Porzingis is 19 years-old, so there’s plenty of time for him to close these gaps on his game or for his future team to find a way to play him in a way that minimizes his weaknesses.

My issue with how he’s been covered these last two weeks is that he’s being perceived as the sort of difference maker a team can expect out of the second or third pick in a loaded class like this. I disagree, based on the direction the NBA intends to go and because of what Towns, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay and Cauley-Stein bring to the table.
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The risk associated to Porzingis is if he does not develop any sort of a post game because teams will go small against him. While wings might not be able to get a hand in his face, they can stay closer when puts the ball on the floor and prevent him from pulling-up in balance or even pulling-up at all. While he’s agile in the context of a big man, he has not proven the ability to guard smaller players.

For example: Channing Frye was valuable his final season in Phoenix because they leveraged his shooting well, especially when they used him as a stretch five. However, he was far less valuable as a spot-up stretch four last season on a poorly coached team in Orlando.

Porzingis can make shots, but he relies on his coaches to put him in favorable positions and teammates to get him the ball. As we saw in Orlando, that isn’t as simple as it sounds."
 
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Rastas meltdown has been beautifully hilarious to watch. I can only imagine where he is going to be by the end of the night.
 
B-Roy said:
Giannis isn't even that good yet. Personally I don't see him being that much better than Batum.

Gobert is good, but he's not going to be a two way star. Defensive prodigy and anchor for sure, but limited offensively.
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I'm one of the biggest Batum honks you'll find, but Giannis is going to be much, much better than Nic.
 
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