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tester551 said:
There is a big difference between Picks #2 & #5 versus being pick #25.
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I get that, but we're talking about draft steals. Wouldn't an apt comparison be someone else who was a draft steal, not two people who were draft disappointments? There are countless players with similar skill sets to compare to.
 
Here's an issue worth discussing: what picks are most likely to be available?
My guesses, with explanation:
3. Boston - Danny Ainge has shown repeatedly he's ready to trade high picks for good vets (e.g. Ray Allen)
5. Minny - Minny already has a great young core and Thibs hates rookies. They might want to bundle it with Pekovic's contract.
9. Raptors - depends. If they lose Derozan they might want to rebuild.
13. Suns - their second pick of the first round.
15. Nugs - ditto
16. Boston - ditto.
18. Pistons - Stan also hates rookies, and they're a contender right now.
19. Denver - THIRD pick.
23. Boston - ditto.
24, 26 - Philly's second and third picks and they've nothing but projects already
27. Raptors' second pick
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Here's an issue worth discussing: what picks are most likely to be available?
My guesses, with explanation:
3. Boston - Danny Ainge has shown repeatedly he's ready to trade high picks for good vets (e.g. Ray Allen)
5. Minny - Minny already has a great young core and Thibs hates rookies. They might want to bundle it with Pekovic's contract.
9. Raptors - depends. If they lose Derozan they might want to rebuild.
13. Suns - their second pick of the first round.
15. Nugs - ditto
16. Boston - ditto.
18. Pistons - Stan also hates rookies, and they're a contender right now.
19. Denver - THIRD pick.
23. Boston - ditto.
24, 26 - Philly's second and third picks and they've nothing but projects already
27. Raptors' second pick
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I hate myself for suggesting this, but Plums for Pek + 5?

EDIT: Nope, I can't do it. I hate myself SO MUCH for even typing that.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Here's an issue worth discussing: what picks are most likely to be available?
My guesses, with explanation:
3. Boston - Danny Ainge has shown repeatedly he's ready to trade high picks for good vets (e.g. Ray Allen)
5. Minny - Minny already has a great young core and Thibs hates rookies. They might want to bundle it with Pekovic's contract.
9. Raptors - depends. If they lose Derozan they might want to rebuild.
13. Suns - their second pick of the first round.
15. Nugs - ditto
16. Boston - ditto.
18. Pistons - Stan also hates rookies, and they're a contender right now.
19. Denver - THIRD pick.
23. Boston - ditto.
24, 26 - Philly's second and third picks and they've nothing but projects already
27. Raptors' second pick
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If Pekovic wasn't so injury prone that'd be one hell of a deal to go after... Getting Pekovic+Dunn/Bender/Brown would be a great haul.
 
handiman said:
1) Eww.

2) The two examples of someone being a steal are Ricky Rubio and Marvin Williams, really? Those were two pretty big disappointments.
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The only comparison here that is relevant is role. Not sure why he brought up Rubio as he was a high lotto pick.

Hernangomez is a role player who can be a 3/D guy down the road - at PF. His skillset is very intriguing with this era of bigmen.
 
Felder's stock is on the rise.

Oakland: Scoring: #1 -- 86.4
Felder: Assists: #1 -- 9.3

He also posted a 29 PER.

I don't think he'll fall to the late second round. If you want a spark off the bench Felder is your guy.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Pek still makes 10 mil a season... And hasnt played more than 65 games in a season, and that was his rookie year.
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Actually $12M, but it wouldn't matter. If we could get #5 for Plums and capspace, we'd be trading for Pek the same way we traded for Varejao.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Actually $12M, but it wouldn't matter. If we could get #5 for Plums and capspace, we'd be trading for Pek the same way we traded for Varejao.
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Exactly. Only there would be no reason to waive Pek (I don't think?). The first thing I thought when I read that list was, like B.C. posted, I'd like to trade for that #5 pick. This trade works fine for me.

I have no irrational attachment to Plumlee, particularly after witnessing his obvious weaknesses during the playoffs. Plums is a nice player. He can do some nice things; make some nice plays. I like him. I like winning more. I'd keep Davis and Nards over Plumlee, and I'd rather have the No. 5 pick plus Pek, too.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Actually $12M, but it wouldn't matter. If we could get #5 for Plums and capspace, we'd be trading for Pek the same way we traded for Varejao.
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There's no way Minny would do that. Pekovic at 12 mil next season is equivalent to a ~8 mil player in the 2015 cap. That's nothing
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Rade Zagorac!

(What's with Mega Leks?)
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He's on the same prospect tier as Zipser but Rade has the edge in upside - he's a full two years younger and just as productive. IMO both are a tier below Juancho Hernangomez.

He can't shoot though. Right now he's primarily a slasher/iso wing.
 
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Fez Hammersticks said:
The only comparison here that is relevant is role. Not sure why he brought up Rubio as he was a high lotto pick.

Hernangomez is a role player who can be a 3/D guy down the road - at PF. His skillset is very intriguing with this era of bigmen.
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Rubio was brought up specifically in reference to assists as a stat translating over from Europe. Not at all as a comparison.
 
I'll say it again; I don't think Olshey is trying to trade into the lottery. I think he thinks if he is lucky and smart he can get just as good a player late first round, early second.
 
Stock watch:


Juan Hernangomez (95’, 6-9, SF/PF, Spain, Estudiantes)

After a long period of inconsistency and bad performances "Juancho" finally looks like he found his mojo. The Spaniard forward was terrific in May, averaging 12 points and 6 rebounds, connecting on 40.9% from beyond the three point line in 25 minutes of playing time. Hernangomez has a lot of fans among scouts, mainly because of his ability to score from the 3 point line and his versatility, since he can play both forward positions with ease and his recent performances surely helped his stock, with some suggesting that he might even be a first round pick in this year’s draft
 
The Knicks have been trying to buy a late first -- Juan Hernangomez is their guy.
 
Second round/undrafted prospects...

Yogi Ferrell has been killing his workouts.

17 ppg last year while shooting 42% from three:



Patty Mills-esque. He'd get playing time under Stotts right away with his shot. Stotts wants his backup pg to be able to shoot. It's the reason why Frazier was waived.
 
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DX update:

Hernangomez rises to #25
Prince is the biggest riser - #17
Qi goes from mid-second all the way up to #29
 
This Greek giant has been a steady riser on most mocks.

A mobile and legitimate 7'3" -- only 18 years old:

 
Looks good, but I don't see him being a star with a name like George.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
DX update:

Hernangomez rises to #25
Prince is the biggest riser - #17
Qi goes from mid-second all the way up to #29
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Thon maker moved up at least a couple spots (I think 7) and Petr Corniele leapfrogged Brice Johnson, moved up 2 spots I think,
 
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