Game Thread 2016 NBA Finals, Game 7, Warriors vs Cavaliers

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Pinwheel1 said:
Does anyone really think the Warriors don't win in 5 without the Green suspension? I admit it was poetic justice for it to happen, but they had all the momentum and were going home. I actually picked it to go 7, but after game 4, I admitted I was wrong......until the NBA office got involved.
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I'm glad he cost them the series. He had been pulling that bullshit all playoffs. It was, as you said, poetic justice and I LOVE how it played out.
 
Scott Ostler from the San Francisco Chronicle landed on my shit list when he said the Warriors "easily" dispatched the Blazers. Did he watch the same series the rest of us did?
 
And Green seemed to tone down his act and focus on basketball once the league FINALLY held him accountable for his actions (and it cost his team).
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm glad he cost them the series. He had been pulling that bullshit all playoffs. It was, as you said, poetic justice and I LOVE how it played out.
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Yeah I am just saying I would not say for sure Cleveland would have won it last year too if they were all healthy.
Because without the suspension they would not have won it this year......IMO.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Does anyone really think the Warriors don't win in 5 without the Green suspension? I admit it was poetic justice for it to happen, but they had all the momentum and were going home. I actually picked it to go 7, but after game 4, I admitted I was wrong......until the NBA office got involved.
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I'm not so sure GSW wins in 5 without the suspension. Green never should have put himself in that position, but he did and got what he deserved.

I think the injury to Bogut, Iguodala's bad back and Kerr's change in coaching philosophy all had more to do with losing the series than Green's suspension.

Green pretty much sucked in the games before and after the suspension. Hard to say how much of a positive impact he would have had in Game 5, but based on his performances in Games 4 and 6, probably not much.

Even without Green, they were still very much in Game 5 when Bogut went down. Had Bogut not been injured they might have won in 5 without Green.

I think the real reason they blew the series, in hindsight was Kerr electing to play way too much small ball after the first 3 games. When they went up 3-1, it was guys like Shaun Livingston and Mo Speights stepping up. That took pressure off Steph and Klay and let them play a lot fewer minutes. In the first three games, Steph and Klay were both averaging less than 30 MPG.

The change started in Game 4, when Kerr played both Steph and Klay almost 40 minutes. In Game 5, they were both over 40 minutes for the first time in the post season.

I get wanting to play your best players as many minutes as possible, but they started playing a lot more small ball even before Bogut went down. And after Bogut went down, they barely played Speights, Varejao and Ezeli. Small ball is a great way to take advantage of your advantages in speed and quickness for 20 - 24 MPG, but when you start playing small ball 36-40 MPG it takes it's toll. Your smaller players are constantly bumped, pushed and grabbed by much bigger, stronger players and it wears them out. And when they are dog tired, that speed and quickness advantage is nowhere to be seen. Now, you're just a small, slow, tired team with shooters who have no legs. Take away a shooter's legs, you take away his shot.

Yes, Steph Curry should have the ball in his hands with 10 seconds left in the game when you're down by 3, but he shouldn't be so dead tired he can't even beat Kevin Love off the dribble in an isolation. Love had no help anywhere nearby and Curry didn't have the legs to shake him.

Yeah, the Green suspension MAY have been a factor, but make no mistake, there were bigger reasons why GSW lost. Even after the Green suspension, they were up 3-2 with Game 7 at home. The league didn't take that series from them. It was a combination of them giving it up and LeBron seizing the moment.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Green pretty much sucked in the games before and after the suspension. Hard to say how much of a positive impact he would have had in Game 5, but based on his performances in Games 4 and 6, probably not much.


BNM
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But not in the home games, which game 5 was. Last night he was 11- 15 (6-8 from 3's) 15 rebounds, 9 assists and 2 steals.

I am not suggesting he would have had those numbers in game 5, but without the suspension, and with all the momentum the Warriors had, they would have jumped on them and buried them early IMO. The injuries later in that game would not have mattered. Bogut only plays 15 minutes a game anyways. I guess we will never know.....

But I can't say I am upset at seeing Curry knocked down a peg.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Does anyone really think the Warriors don't win in 5 without the Green suspension? I admit it was poetic justice for it to happen, but they had all the momentum and were going home. I actually picked it to go 7, but after game 4, I admitted I was wrong......until the NBA office got involved.
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Nba office? Green was the dumbass who made it happen, not the NBA. It's all green's fault for being a dbag.
 
Strenuus said:
Nba office? Green was the dumbass who made it happen, not the NBA. It's all green's fault for being a dbag.
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It still was the NBA office that upgraded it to a flagrant foul, not the refs on the floor. I was simply pointing out that the suspension wasn't until the next day. The night of the game everyone seemed to think the series was over. If not, they sure were silent about it.
 
Draymond was at it again during game 7.



Does the guy blame it on turrets at this point?
 
Stern would have suspended green for all the kicks, he didn't play that shit. All said and done, green was allowed to play like a bully for pretty much the entire playoffs, it just wasn't enough.
 


kevinlove Those of you who know Champ will appreciate this... I’d like to tribute the best teammate I've ever had, James Jones aka Champ. You taught me more than you know the past 2 years— what it takes to win, how to be a better teammate, how to balance the good/bad off the court, and most importantly...putting team first. Sacrifice for the better of the team, and in order to lead sometimes you have to learn to follow. You’ve been to 6 straight Finals. You’ve been the constant presence we needed in the locker room. You’re the ultimate work horse. The lessons you taught me will stay with me for the rest of my career and life after basketball.
No one can avoid the ups and downs of the Playoffs, and when many wrote me off after a tough stretch in the Finals… you and the team stuck by me allowing me to flourish and make plays when it mattered most. Like you told me not too long ago, “don’t be afraid to be yourself.” And now I’ll never be— thanks for everything. Keep being you Champ.
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If you remember curry didn't have a great finals last year.
 
I missed the part where Love flourished... He rebounded well in Game 7 against an ultra-small ball lineup, and he didn't bite on Curry's fakes on the last play, but that's about it.
 
http://www.warriorsworld.net/2016/09/03/stephen-curry-finally-watches-game-7-of-nba-finals/

In fact, he watched the game for the first time just last week. Curry is using that disappointment as motivation, though.

“I think it was a good motivator to get back into the gym and keep going,” said Curry.
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Curry did a tour this summer like most stars, similar to what Dame did. I can't believe he just now watched game 7 though... Really surprised me. Do you guys think that speaks poorly of his drive, or do you think it's an acceptable way to self motivate?

He also said his knees were never 100% in the playoffs. I'm down with Steph staying out of the gym and away from Durant while Dame and CJ continue to work to improve and build team chemistry.
 
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I know players after they lost in the finals never ever go back to watch. So it not suprise to me at all.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I'm down with Steph staying out of the gym and away from Durant while Dame and CJ continue to work to improve and build team chemistry.
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Dude, they added Durant. That is a move to get better and improve team chemistry.
 
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