Event 2017 NBA draft thread - April 2017 edition

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Is his non-existant leadership from the bench?

Don't think Connaughton has no locker room presence. You can stick in the league just by being a great teammate. I.e. Mark Madsen
 
Zach Collins -- lotto pick
Jarrett Allen -- lotto pick

My selections for our picks based off of current stocks:

POR #16: John Collins/OG Anunoby
MEM #20: Isiah Hartenstein/Rodions Kurucs
CLE #27: Harry Giles/Jonathan Jeanne
 
There's a difference between a great teammate and a leader.

Call it whatever you want, I don't even know what your argument is anymore. Connaughtons personality hasn't transfered to the NBA? Because it has, and it'll probably be the thing that keeps him in the league.
 
Call it whatever you want, I don't even know what your argument is anymore. Connaughtons personality hasn't transfered to the NBA? Because it has, and it'll probably be the thing that keeps him in the league.
You really think someone is gonna give Connaughton a contract based off his personality???
 
You really think someone is gonna give Connaughton a contract based off his personality???

Probably. In a league full of egos, teams love having a team oriented hype man, for whatever reason. And now with rosters getting even bigger, teams have another excuse to carry them.

Expect Connaughton to be here next year as well.
 
carrying "hype men" is also cheap way to fill out a roster, which is increasingly valuable these days with contracts looking the way they do.
 
Giles is a prospect I try to force myself to like with our pick - even trading up if need be - if it weren't for his three knee surgeries he'd easily be the consensus #1 pick in this draft. He's that type of talent.
 
Giles is a prospect I try to force myself to like with our pick - even trading up if need be - if it weren't for his three knee surgeries he'd easily be the consensus #1 pick in this draft. He's that type of talent.

Since we have three picks, might as well be the team to roll the dice on him. And he won't have to play immediately either.
 
If we keep all 3 picks where they land then I'd be for taking a gamble on Giles' health. But if package picks to move up and only end up with 2 players from the draft I'd rather take someone who would be less of a risk. I definitely would not want to trade two of our picks to gamble on Giles.

Giles is definitely talented. However health is a big deal, and you see players slip down the boards all the time because of their health concerns. I think about Joel Embiid and how many teams were willing to risk their pick for his talent, if everyone is passing on Giles I'd take it as a sign that teams don't trust his long term health.
 
Draftexpress has released their latest updated mock--has us taking Anunoby at 16, Rabb at 20, and Giles at 26. Can't say I'd be upset with that outcome, although I feel like all three of those guys are 2 years away from being any kind of contributor.
 
Anunoby is the second coming of Aminu? Is that right?
They aren't clones, but project to have similar skill sets.

Main difference is I think Aminu is the more fluid/explosive athlete, while OG is bulkier and more mechanical.
 
Things are started to click for me with Frank Ntilikina. Was a little down on him early, but when I started viewing him as more of a versatile defender + ball handling 2 rather than a primary creator, he became a lot more appealing as a prospect.
 
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They aren't clones, but project to have similar skill sets.

Main difference is I think Aminu is the more fluid/explosive athlete, while OG is bulkier and more mechanical.
I like him cuz of his boss name. OG!
 
Draftexpress has released their latest updated mock--has us taking Anunoby at 16, Rabb at 20, and Giles at 26. Can't say I'd be upset with that outcome, although I feel like all three of those guys are 2 years away from being any kind of contributor.
I don't like Rabb. PF size with C skills. Not a good offensive or defensive player. Wouldn't touch him with a 1st round pick.
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I love Anunoby at 16. He reminds me of Kawhi Leonard when Kawhi was coming out of San Diego State. Lets just look at the measurables for a second:
Kawhi Leonard: Ht: 6'7 Wing: 7'3
OG Anunoby: Ht: 6'8 Wing: 7'6 (Reportedly)
That's a BEAST right there.

His form looks good and I think he could easily be a better shooter than Aminu or Harkless. He'll be better than both unless injuries fuck him over.

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At 20, Ike Anigbogu would be extremely interesting if he's available. He's only 18 and won't turn 19 until October. Would be a project but he has potential to be an elite rim protector. There's many players that appear to be going into the NBA this year that people thought were gonna stay at least another year. This is one of those players. That's good news for us and our 3 picks!
I don't like Rabb though. I also don't like Leaf, Lydon, Kurucs, or Hartentstein all that much. Mitchell is an undersized 2-guard which we don't need. Giles would be a good pick here, but I think it might be smart to try to wait for him to fall to 26th.
THEREFORE, I think we should try trading 20 and a future 2nd to Orlando for the 25th and 35th picks.

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With Orlando's 25th pick, I'd want to take Semi Ojeleye. There's just something about this dude that I like. I think he could be a good small-ball 4. He's well rounded, strong, and athletic, and has drive. If not Ojeleye, one of Leaf, Kurucs, Hartenstein, or Lydon will be available. I'd feel better taking one of those guys at 25.

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Giles at 26 if he's available. Would be awesome. A top 5 talent. No risk, high reward pick.

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We'd then have the Magic's pick at 35th. I'd try to trade this down further. The 76ers have 4 second round picks, and will probably try to trade some. I'd trade the 35th pick and a future 2nd/cash (if possible) for the 39th and 49th picks.
At 39th, I'd take one of Robinson, Bell, Brooks, Motley, Hart, or Bryant.
They have Bryant going 41st, he'd be a good pick at 39. A potential rim-protector with shooting potential.
At 49th, DX has Edmond Sumner available. He just suffered a torn ACL this year, but is a first round talent when healthy. He's a 6'5 PG with a 6'8 wingspan who can defend and has "lottery caliber" (DX) offensive potential. Would be a good pick. Not much of a risk, with the potential to be a reward down the line and fit with Lillard and McCollum.

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So we'd add Anunoby, Ojeleye, Giles, Bryant, and Sumner. That's a good haul in my opinion. We'd consistently rotate Ojeleye, Giles, Bryant, and Sumner between G-League spots (we can send 4 down at one time, and have to have 2 down at all times).
 
I like OG but if Giles' physical checks out I think you roll the dice with him at #16 -- with J. Collins and OG close behind.
 
OG got better handles than Aminu and he can take people off the dribble still need to work on his outside shot.
 
I like OG but if Giles' physical checks out I think you roll the dice with him at #16 -- with J. Collins and OG close behind.
John Collins is trash IMO. I just don't think his game will translate well.
 
The Ducks' Tyler Dorsey is entering the draft. Anyone think he cracks the first round?
 
I don't like Rabb. PF size with C skills. Not a good offensive or defensive player. Wouldn't touch him with a 1st round pick.
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I love Anunoby at 16. He reminds me of Kawhi Leonard when Kawhi was coming out of San Diego State. Lets just look at the measurables for a second:
Kawhi Leonard: Ht: 6'7 Wing: 7'3
OG Anunoby: Ht: 6'8 Wing: 7'6 (Reportedly)
That's a BEAST right there.

His form looks good and I think he could easily be a better shooter than Aminu or Harkless. He'll be better than both unless injuries fuck him over.

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At 20, Ike Anigbogu would be extremely interesting if he's available. He's only 18 and won't turn 19 until October. Would be a project but he has potential to be an elite rim protector. There's many players that appear to be going into the NBA this year that people thought were gonna stay at least another year. This is one of those players. That's good news for us and our 3 picks!
I don't like Rabb though. I also don't like Leaf, Lydon, Kurucs, or Hartentstein all that much. Mitchell is an undersized 2-guard which we don't need. Giles would be a good pick here, but I think it might be smart to try to wait for him to fall to 26th.
THEREFORE, I think we should try trading 20 and a future 2nd to Orlando for the 25th and 35th picks.

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With Orlando's 25th pick, I'd want to take Semi Ojeleye. There's just something about this dude that I like. I think he could be a good small-ball 4. He's well rounded, strong, and athletic, and has drive. If not Ojeleye, one of Leaf, Kurucs, Hartenstein, or Lydon will be available. I'd feel better taking one of those guys at 25.

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Giles at 26 if he's available. Would be awesome. A top 5 talent. No risk, high reward pick.

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We'd then have the Magic's pick at 35th. I'd try to trade this down further. The 76ers have 4 second round picks, and will probably try to trade some. I'd trade the 35th pick and a future 2nd/cash (if possible) for the 39th and 49th picks.
At 39th, I'd take one of Robinson, Bell, Brooks, Motley, Hart, or Bryant.
They have Bryant going 41st, he'd be a good pick at 39. A potential rim-protector with shooting potential.
At 49th, DX has Edmond Sumner available. He just suffered a torn ACL this year, but is a first round talent when healthy. He's a 6'5 PG with a 6'8 wingspan who can defend and has "lottery caliber" (DX) offensive potential. Would be a good pick. Not much of a risk, with the potential to be a reward down the line and fit with Lillard and McCollum.

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So we'd add Anunoby, Ojeleye, Giles, Bryant, and Sumner. That's a good haul in my opinion. We'd consistently rotate Ojeleye, Giles, Bryant, and Sumner between G-League spots (we can send 4 down at one time, and have to have 2 down at all times).
Your assignments jibe with mine quite a bit. I was hyping Sumner, Anigbogu and Ojeleye all earlier today in a reply to a @riverman in another thread.
 
Looking forward to seeing Terrance 2K climb the boards during the combine. Wonder if he will end up being a top 5 pick by draft day.
 
Agree, I have Hartenstein's ceiling as poor mans Crabbbe, and that is being very kind. Would not draft him.

Did you see any players at the Nike Hoop Summit that impressed you or stood out?

I am having a hard time getting a good read on the Euros.

I liked Gary Trent Jr. Besides one defensive lapse, he played lock down D and was At-A-LET-ic! The kid going to the Ducks looked solid too. There's a kid last name Vanderbilt that looked like a future NBAer.
 
Agree, I have Hartenstein's ceiling as poor mans Crabbbe, and that is being very kind. Would not draft him.

Did you see any players at the Nike Hoop Summit that impressed you or stood out?

I am having a hard time getting a good read on the Euros.
Jaren Jackson Jr is going to be a stud
 
I look forward to bumping this thread once Hartenstein is in the league.

Soft my ass.

He was getting pushed around and stayed around the perimeter. He was throwing up one footed floaters.

Very Charminlike.
 
carrying "hype men" is also cheap way to fill out a roster, which is increasingly valuable these days with contracts looking the way they do.

Nothing like a veteran towel waver at the end of the bench.
 

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