Event 2017 NBA draft thread - March 2017 edition

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Scalma said:
Read the thread.
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But getting lucky and winning the lottery would mean we'd miss the playoffs, and that would be negative. Haven't you been preaching from that high horse of yours about me being negative? Or is it ok when it serves your agenda?
 
riverman said:
I want Jordan Bell...not because he's a Duck but because he's a solid two way player with a high BBIQ and is a team player..I keep looking for that 6'9 PF and to me...he's as good as they come in this draft where we'll be picking. I also like that giant Karnowski? Gonzaga center that looks like Chris Kaman and Greg Ostertag had a baby....that guy is 300 lbs of rock with good passing, rebounding, a hook shot and midrange shot...he looks clumsy but he's skilled. I really like the pt guard for North Carolina...Barry...kid is a baller.
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I've agreed with you already about this, but Bell seems like a great guy to have on the roster
 
Mediocre Man said:
But getting lucky and winning the lottery would mean we'd miss the playoffs, and that would be negative. Haven't you been preaching from that high horse of yours about me being negative? Or is it ok when it serves your agenda?
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What the actual fuck are you talking about?

I didn't come up with that scenario, are you legitimately slow?
 
Bell ranked one of the top defenders in college basketball this season.

Worst idea to trade our picks and players for a star and snag some 2nd rounders with cash and grab Bell, Boucher and Brooks?
 
Fez Hammersticks said:


Fight me.
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John Collins is such a boring player. Does like 4 different things on a basketball floor. Right hand hook, turn and face 15' footer, pick & seal finishes, and dump off dunks. That's literally 95% of his offense. Will make a nice block on the defense, but overall is low IQ / foul prone / apathetic on that end.

Oh and most of this video is just him taking advantage of Duke's garbage defense.

He's 19 and really good at the few things he does, good on the boards and probably will hang as a back-up 4, but he's been one of the least enjoyable prospects for me to watch.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Bell ranked one of the top defenders in college basketball this season.

Worst idea to trade our picks and players for a star and snag some 2nd rounders with cash and grab Bell, Boucher and Brooks?
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Any plan that involves the bolded above is not a bad plan.
 
1st pick - Bam Adebayo PF/C =Beast- 6'10 255 lbs
2nd pick Jordan Bell PF = Beast-Pac 12 Defensive player of the year.
3rd pick Dillon Brooks. SG/SF = Beast-Pac 12 player of the year.

This would look better than ED/Noah,Meyers and AC. IMO.
 
Bonzie Colson: SF/PF
6'5" | 230 lbs. | 7'0" wingspan
17 ppg | 10 rpg (19 TRB%) | 1.5 bpg | 39 3PT% | 30 PER

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*Legitimate post game
*Tough defensively
*Engine that doesn't stop
*Comparison: PJ Tucker
Projection: Second round/undrafted​
 
rotary111 said:
1st pick - Bam Adebayo PF/C =Beast- 6'10 255 lbs
2nd pick Jordan Bell PF = Beast-Pac 12 Defensive player of the year.
3rd pick Dillon Brooks. SG/SF = Beast-Pac 12 player of the year.

This would look better than ED/Noah,Meyers and AC. IMO.
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I wouldn't mind buying two second round picks and taking Brooks and Boucher, also taking Bell with the Cleveland pick. Would be cool to see a college big 3 play together on the same team right out of school. Chemistry would be nice.

Also for shits and giggles let's look at the draft position from the last 10 seasons of pac12 POY's:

06-07: Arron Afflalo (27th overall)
07-08: Kevin Love (5th overall)
08-09: James Harden (3rd overall)
09-10: Jerome Randle (undrafted... don't even remember the guy)
10-11: Derrick Williams (2nd overall)
11-12: Jorge Gutierrez (undrafted)
12-13: Allen Crabbe (31st overall)
13-14: Nick Johnson (42nd overall)
14-15: Jo Young (43rd overall)
15-16: Jakob Pöltl (9th overall)
 
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Here's a video for you guys to see Markkanen work off the dribble (plus one inside finish) vs. NBA-caliber bigs. Important to note that both Leaf and Welsh will be below average athletes for their position at the next level.

 
JDC said:
Here's a video for you guys to see Markkanen work off the dribble (plus one inside finish) vs. NBA-caliber bigs. Important to note that both Leaf and Welsh will be below average athletes for their position at the next level.

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Is this a charity game, why are there so many white guys.

then again Olshey was probably at the game

On a serious note, no thanks to both.
 
theprunetang said:
I think we have had enough "Bonzie's".
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I'm having a hard time being objective watching this one video of this guy. He seems like he might be an asshole but the name just makes me think I'm seeing what I expected to see.
 
With all the Jordan Bell love being thrown around in this thread, I thought I'd see what all the hubbub is about.

First impressions have me thinking that he's not going to be very good at the next level. He's explosive, but he looks like a pretty rigid athlete overall. I also think he hunts steals and blocks mostly rather than getting them as a result of good positional defense.

Here's an example (on the first play of the game no less):



That's Meyers level stuff right there and I've seen multiple plays like this from him in the games I've watched (to be fair, most aren't this egregious).

Add the fact that he's probably a 10-14% usage player on offense while being Dante Cunningham sized...it's a hard pass for me and would be a huge reach in the 1st round imo.
 
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JDC said:
With all the Jordan Bell love being thrown around in this thread, I thought I'd see what all the hubbub is about.

First impressions have me thinking that he's not going to be very good at the next level. He's explosive, but he looks like a pretty rigid athlete overall. I also think he hunts steals and blocks mostly rather than getting them as a result of good positional defense.

Here's an example (on the first play of the game no less):


That's Meyers level stuff right there and I've seen multiple plays like this from him in the games I've watched (to be fair, most aren't this egregious).

Add the fact that he's probably a 10-14% usage player on offense while being Dante Cunningham sized...it's a hard pass for me and would be a huge reach in the 1st round imo.
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I don't see that much Jordan Bell Love being thrown around. It's not like anyone considers him a lottery pick. Personally i think he is a 2nd round pick. But are you serious with this example? Comparing him to Meyers when he was athletic enough to jump out at a 3 pt shooter, stopped him from shooting , then made it back in time to almost block the shot at the rim? This was off of the opening tip! His lack of length will hurt him in the NBA, (again 2nd rounder) but that was a damn good play he made there by helping out.
 
Jordan Bell is a project who's projected to go very late first to mid second round, Dillon Brooks even further in the second to third. Why waste time talking about second rounders when we have three firsts...
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I don't see that much Jordan Bell Love being thrown around. It's not like anyone considers him a lottery pick. Personally i think he is a 2nd round pick. But are you serious with this example? Comparing him to Meyers when he was athletic enough to jump out at a 3 pt shooter, stopped him from shooting , then made it back in time to almost block the shot at the rim? This was off of the opening tip! His lack of length will hurt him in the NBA, (again 2nd rounder) but that was a damn good play he made there by helping out.
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Almost blocked that shot? Really? Any sane person knows he had a zero chance of making that play. And I'm just comparing the decision making. We all know Meyers is a slug athletically.

He's an extremely low IQ defender and will be exposed at the next level imo, and I could post plenty more examples (15+ from less than 3 games) to further / better illustrate my point, but I'll regress. And hey, maybe there is a smart defender hiding in there and he's just following Dana Altman's instruction to gamble constantly, but we don't know at this point. I can only go off what I see on film.
 
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Trackjack said:
There only 2 rounds in the draft.
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I think he was making a well deserved jab at my post. I have no idea why my brain made up a third round.... but if there was one that's where I would have Brooks going lol.
 
rotary111 said:
1st pick - Bam Adebayo PF/C =Beast- 6'10 255 lbs
2nd pick Jordan Bell PF = Beast-Pac 12 Defensive player of the year.
3rd pick Dillon Brooks. SG/SF = Beast-Pac 12 player of the year.

This would look better than ED/Noah,Meyers and AC. IMO.
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Thank god you're not the GM.
 
JDC said:
With all the Jordan Bell love being thrown around in this thread, I thought I'd see what all the hubbub is about.
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Its biased hubbub. Most posters are Ducks fans. They overate the hell out of Ducks players and think that they'd be able to do the same exact stuff in the NBA as they do in college.
 
Jordan Bell sounds like he has a similar skillset to Jerome Kersey, who was also a 2nd round pick.
 
JDC said:
Almost blocked that shot? Really? Any sane person knows he had a zero chance of making that play. And I'm just comparing the decision making. We all know Meyers is a slug athletically.

He's an extremely low IQ defender and will be exposed at the next level imo, and I could post plenty more examples (15+ from less than 3 games) to further / better illustrate my point, but I'll regress. And hey, maybe there is a smart defender hiding in there and he's just following Dana Altman's instruction to gamble constantly, but we don't know at this point. I can only go off what I see on film.
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My issue is your example. It was in transition and if he doesn't help out on someone' else's man, UCLA get the open 3 pt shot. He made a smart instinctive play by picking up the open man, and then recovered to get back to his position. What exactly did you want him to do on this play?

Like I said his length will hurt him at the next level. He is a tweener. He is a very good defensive college center, but at under 6'9" is even on the short side for a PF in the NBA. But to compare his BB IQ to Leonard when Bell was the Pac 12 Defensive Player of the year is ridiculous. I get that Bill Walton is a blow hard, and he does embellish on everything he says, but he is a stickler for basketball fundamentals and when hs been touting Bell as the defensive player of the year all season, (over Rabb) I think he knows what he is talking about. He hates low BBIQ centers.
 
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