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Don't blame Pop in the slightest. He had every right to be mad. That close out was absolute B.S. Have to assume Kawhi might be out the whole series. If somebody had tried that with Walton then Lucas would have knocked their teeth out. One reason I kind of miss the old days was because if you had a Mahorn of an Oakley on your team, you didn't have to worry about punk play with no repercussions.
 
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ripcityboy said:
Don't blame Pop in the slightest. He had every right to be mad. That close out was absolute B.S. Have to assume Kawhi might be out the whole series. If somebody had tried that with Walton then Lucas would have knocked their teeth out. One reason I kind of miss the old days was because if you had a Mahorn of an Oakley on your team, you didn't have to worry about punk play with no repercussions.
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Mahorn is the type of guy who would have done that to Jordan. And then knocked him into the camera crew.

I find it amusing when people, in effect, say, "Wow, I hate that guy, he's such a goon. I miss the old days, when players were goons!" Pachulia putting his foot in a bad place is really insane and beyond the pale, but Dennis Rodman bodyslamming a mid-air Pippen into a basketball stanchion was just playin' ball back when men were men.
 
Minstrel said:
Mahorn is the type of guy who would have done that to Jordan. And then knocked him into the camera crew.

I find it amusing when people, in effect, say, "Wow, I hate that guy, he's such a goon. I miss the old days, when players were goons!" Pachulia putting his foot in a bad place is really insane and beyond the pale, but Dennis Rodman bodyslamming a mid-air Pippen into a basketball stanchion was just playin' ball back when men were men.
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Well. It's like the hockey goon era. You had guys like Dave "The Hammer" Schultz who can either go after players who intimidate your stars or "inspire" with their rough play. It's just a different period of time than the rough and tumble 80's. I have to say, if it saves Dame and CJ from getting another rough foul that wouldn't get called back then.... I'll keep the current rules!
 
BigGameDamian said:
Zaza a dirty player?

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Yes, both Pop and Shaq describe Zaza's play as "unnatural", which is what I thought also when I saw it. He does that extra hop when the ball is already gone. I would like to see not only a personal foul but also a technical foul for every incidence of undercutting a jump shooter. I think that would end the practice.
 
I hope Pop takes a fine and rips the league duing his interview. Maybe the the league would listen to him.
 
Sounds like a real ratings bonanza.
What they need to do is focus on the players more. Too much game.... not enough ego. :ghoti:
 
Yeah, I think it's not being said enough that Pachulia (and Aldridge) aren't exactly going to be the most coordinated defenders out on the perimeter. When it's Bruce Bowen or another perimeter player, you expect that they'd have complete control of how they contest and any action is more likely deliberate. Pachulia is an okay interior defender, but out in space? It's far more likely that he stumbled as he followed the path of the shot than that he used a diabolical perimeter defender technique to injure someone. This is, after all, the guy--in Pachulia--who injured his own teammate because of how he lunges around without having complete control.
 
Anybody browsing the Spurs Forum? I bet Lasoft is getting roasted more than Myle.
 
I found this on Clutchfans (Clutchfans is my guilty pleasure to peruse, because they're the biggest group of homers on the Internet and so salty) and thought it was amusing:

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich criticized the NBA on Friday for warning Bruce Bowen about his defensive "tactics" and complained league officials are "trying to change the way my best defender plays."

NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson, who handles disciplinary matters for the league, called Bowen at home on Sunday night and told him he needed to watch his feet and give shooters room to land. If not, Jackson said, Bowen faced a possible fine or suspension.

Popovich said the league never informed Spurs officials of the conversation and he learned of it only after reading Wednesday's Express-News.

"They didn't bother to call the owner, the (general manager) or the coach," Popovich said. "No one. They're trying to change the way Bruce plays and we don't even know about it?

"Secondly, what they're telling him is highly inaccurate. It's unfounded and fueled by media pressure and player complaints."

New York guard Steve Francis sprained his left ankle after landing on Bowen's foot in a Nov. 6 game. When the teams met again four days later, Knicks coach Isiah Thomas threatened to break Bowen's foot after Jamal Crawford almost came down on him on a drive to the basket.

That incident led to a heated exchange between Popovich and Thomas, who was not reprimanded by the league for his actions.

League officials have been instructed to call a foul whenever a defender doesn't give a shooter enough room to land. Vince Carter sprained his ankle in the 2003-04 season after coming down on Bowen. Carter also accused him of purposefully stepping under him in another incident the next season.

Popovich said Bowen is being singled out, citing incidents where New Jersey's Richard Jefferson and Dallas' Josh Howard sprained ankles after landing on Miami's Shaquille O'Neal and Golden State's Mickael Pietrus.

"Did (the league) call them?" Popovich said. "Did they call all those guys (Dirk) Nowitzki landed on when he sprained his ankles the past three, four years? The answer is no.

"So why did they call Bruce? Because it's happened to him twice? Bruce guards an All-Star every night. If he was doing what they're accusing him of doing, wouldn't it have happened a higher percentage of times?

"The people who cry about it are just frustrated about having to go against Bruce."

Popovich is concerned Jackson's warning has taken away some of Bowen's aggressiveness. Houston's Tracy McGrady scored 21 first-half points most of which came against Bowen on Tuesday. After looking at film of Wednesday's loss to Charlotte, Popovich said Bowen sometimes wasn't within "5 feet" of rookie Adam Morrison.
"The league is just trying to cover its ass," Popovich said. "I told Bruce, 'You be Bruce Bowen. You're the best (expletive) defender in this league. You will NOT change the way you play defense.'

"Stu Jackson is not going to change my team just because he thinks he's doing the right thing."

Jackson declined comment except to say he discussed the issue with Spurs general manager R.C. Buford on Friday.

"We registered our disappointment and disagreement with the way it was handled," Popovich said.

Bowen said he took issue with Jackson saying he needed to change his "tactics."

"Tactics means I have a certain way I'm going about doing things and it's purpose-driven," Bowen said.

Bowen also plans to heed his coach's advice even it puts him at risk of being fined.

"I've been given a command," he said, smiling. "So I'm going to keep playing hard."
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Original MySA.com article

2005 Popovich should argue with 2017 Popovich. Should be a good debate.
 
One time it really sucks living in Oakland. All these fucking bandwagoners with Warriors flags on cars and brand new T shirts. I don't mind the longtime fans who were there all the years the team was crappy, hey, have fun. It's the ones who 3 years ago could not name two players now all googoo Warriors this that and the other.
 
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