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Gronk Brady said:
Another team that will pass up the Blazers as Neil let’s the cake bake
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yeah, Suns have been right on the verge eh, lol. You know how many times I saw posters say that Minnesota is better than the Blazers? Been going on about 5-6 years now and guess what, they still finish behind us. Suns have a lot of work to do.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Lillard just started playing a little defense this year... he was literally the worst defensive PG in league... Booker is only what 21-22? He will only get better... Josh Jackson is a 2-way wing with huge upside... adding Ayton or Doncic to that... plus the Euro coach they just signed.... vs an aging undersized ISO ball backcourt in Portland
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an aging backcourt? Technically all backourts are aging, but the Blazer guards are far from being old.
 
CupWizier said:
yeah, Suns have been right on the verge eh, lol. You know how many times I saw posters say that Minnesota is better than the Blazers? Been going on about 5-6 years now and guess what, they still finish behind us. Suns have a lot of work to do.
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How much you want to wager that T-Wolves finish above Blazers next season?
 
CupWizier said:
I don;t gamble with people I don't know. You'd likely welch anyway. You obviously missed the point as well.
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Not only will the Blazers not catch every team with their best player out next season like they did this year... but teams also now have the blueprint on how easy McLillard is to defend thanks to the Pelicans... but you want to let the cake bake
 
Gronk Brady said:
Lillard just started playing a little defense this year... he was literally the worst defensive PG in league... Booker is only what 21-22? He will only get better... Josh Jackson is a 2-way wing with huge upside... adding Ayton or Doncic to that... plus the Euro coach they just signed.... vs an aging undersized ISO ball backcourt in Portland
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Booker might someday be a good defender, Josh Jackson might be good, the new coach is a question mark, whoever they draft could be a bust. I’m not saying it’s out of the realm of possibility that in a couple years they’re good, I am just not that concerned with them right now. I think yes by the time the Blazer guards are 30+ Phoenix might be rising up if (and it’s a big if) a lot of things go there way.
 
Gronk Brady said:
How much you want to wager that T-Wolves finish above Blazers next season?
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How about this?

If the Wolves finish with a better record I have to go 10 days without praising or defending Olshey and must make one post per day during that time ripping him.

If the Blazers finish with a better record you have to go 10 days without criticizing or ripping Olshey and must make one post per day during that time praising him.

Seem fair?
 
BonesJones said:
Which is why he got drafted 30th...? He was no better than Hutchison is now.
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Butler was much better at a younger age and had indicators in his statistical profile that gave him sneaky star upside--oreb rate, monster ft rate, off dribble j % and low to%.

Wingspan and usage % are the only advantages Hutch has as a prospect.
 
hoopsjock said:
How about this?

If the Wolves finish with a better record I have to go 10 days without praising or defending Olshey and must make one post per day during that time ripping him.

If the Blazers finish with a better record you have to go 10 days without criticizing or ripping Olshey and must make one post per day during that time praising him.

Seem fair?
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It’s not fair because hopefully at this time next year the Blazers are playing GS in the WCF and all of us are happy with all the moves NK made heh. Oh that’d be nice !
 
hoopsjock said:
How about this?

If the Wolves finish with a better record I have to go 10 days without praising or defending Olshey and must make one post per day during that time ripping him.

If the Blazers finish with a better record you have to go 10 days without criticizing or ripping Olshey and must make one post per day during that time praising him.

Seem fair?
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Deal!
 
Labinot41 said:
Hahaha this can't be real. CJ is not LeBron, no Team would Never give up 3(!) 1st Round Picks for an borderline All Star, especially if one of these Picks are in the top 3!
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Look back at the #2 selection over the past ten years/drafts! Each of those teams would give their first born to have been in a position to have selected CJ over the player they wound up with!

A top 3 Draft pick is no surety of an all star. Not even close. In fact, some might actually balk at the idea of trading CJ for Picks #3, 19 and 30 of Atlanta.

But for Portland, this would free up a ton of money while building a Celtics-quality team for two/three years from now when the Warriors reign is over. We are NOT going to win a championship in 2019 or 2020, let’s face it. So it’s time to build. Not rebuild, but build.

I’d go as far as trading CJ for Atl’s #3 and #30, letting them keep #19. Then we can consolidate our own #24 with #30 and move up to Clippers #12. [Leaves Clippers with #13/24/30]

We do this for Doncic. I think he can be a 6’-8” 2 guard to play alongside Dame.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Look back at the #2 selection over the past ten years/drafts! Each of those teams would give their first born to have been in a position to have selected CJ over the player they wound up with!

A top 3 Draft pick is no surety of an all star. Not even close. In fact, some might actually balk at the idea of trading CJ for Picks #3, 19 and 30 of Atlanta.

But for Portland, this would free up a ton of money while building a Celtics-quality team for two/three years from now when the Warriors reign is over. We are NOT going to win a championship in 2019 or 2020, let’s face it. So it’s time to build. Not rebuild, but build.

I’d go as far as trading CJ for Atl’s #3 and #30, letting them keep #19. Then we can consolidate our own #24 with #30 and move up to Clippers #12. [Leaves Clippers with #13/24/30]

We do this for Doncic. I think he can be a 6’-8” 2 guard to play alongside Dame.
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Dude, there is negative chance of this trade happening. There are a lot of unrealistic suggestions on here but this might take the cake.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
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Just wonder if the end of the year comes Around and both teams are close if he starts cheering for Minnesota heh :)
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I’ll never root against the Blazers unless it’s clear they aren’t making the playoffs, then I’ll root for draft position... and if I’m wrong about this core I’ll be the first to kiss Neil’s ass... no ego here. I just feel that strongly that Dame/CJ combo is fatally flawed and no matter who you put around them it wont work... but I’ll be happy if I’m wrong
 
Gronk Brady said:
I’ll never root against the Blazers unless it’s clear they aren’t making the playoffs, then I’ll root for draft position... and if I’m wrong about this core I’ll be the first to kiss Neil’s ass... no ego here. I just feel that strongly that Dame/CJ combo is fatally flawed and no matter who you put around them it wont work... but I’ll be happy if I’m wrong
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Yeah, I was joking. I sincerely hope I’m wrong about NO and whatever moves he makes work out.
 
Trade TPE to philly for Bayless, rights to Bolden and the 26th pick.

Package 26 and 24 for Clippers 13th pick. Trade value chart according to Pelton says those two picks come out to the value of the 13th pick. Clippers will want to clear salary to be players in FA so they’ll probably be open to it.

Package 13, Harkless, and the rights to Bolden to Chicago for their pick.

Draft Porter Jr.
 
hoopsjock said:
Dude, there is negative chance of this trade happening. There are a lot of unrealistic suggestions on here but this might take the cake.
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May I ask you this - if you were Memphis, with the 4th pick, you would not trade this pick straight up for CJ?

My second question would be, if you were the Kings or the Hawks, would you not consider trading down from 2 or 3 to have both #4 and 24?

[I’m after Doncic using CJ’s value and our #24 pick if need be]
 
Gronk Brady said:
I’ll never root against the Blazers unless it’s clear they aren’t making the playoffs, then I’ll root for draft position... and if I’m wrong about this core I’ll be the first to kiss Neil’s ass... no ego here. I just feel that strongly that Dame/CJ combo is fatally flawed and no matter who you put around them it wont work... but I’ll be happy if I’m wrong
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What would be hilarious is if Olshey trades CJ this summer, you applaud the trade, but it ends up making the Blazers much worse and you win the bet even though he did exactly what you wanted him to.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
May I ask you this - if you were Memphis, with the 4th pick, you would not trade this pick straight up for CJ?

My second question would be, if you were the Kings or the Hawks, would you not consider trading down from 2 or 3 to have both #4 and 24?

[I’m after Doncic using CJ’s value and our #24 pick if need be]
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No way, not even a discussion.
 
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hoopsjock said:
Kinda crazy to make a bet before knowing what moves either team will make but I think this will make the season fun.
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What's really sad is he bets against the team he allegedly roots for. A true fan would never do that especially for the small compensation
 
CupWizier said:
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What's really sad is he bets against the team he allegedly roots for. A true fan would never do that especially for the small compensation
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Virgins usually misplace their frustrations.
 
Sarni said:
How does it make us better?

Again, I prefer to have that 1% chance we get better through being lucky. Over the last few years several players who would have a good impact for us were drafted 24th or lower including Butler, Green, Jokic, Gobert, Capela. All of those would change this team and make it borderline contender. Even players like Crowder, Middleton, Barton, Richardson etc. who were all second rounders would have a big impact.

Trading picks along with bad contracts to create cap space makes sense if you can actually do anything with that cap space. We won’t be able to sign free agents other than MLE for the next two years and in 2020 we have pretty much everybody expiring.

We might get below the tax line and be able to pay full MLE to somebody but that probably won’t get us anyone great either.

Hell, even last year Kuzma, Anunoby were selected around that pick. This would be enough to justify not selling a bad contract for an attached pick.
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You've convinced me. One more Swanigan is what we need
 
Scalma said:
Virgins usually misplace their frustrations.
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I’m married bro... you have 10,000 posts in this forum in only 4 years... you tell me who the virgin is... nice attempt at an insult
 
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