Event 2018 NBA Draft

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hoopsjock said:
I don't get that though. He has the potential to jump into the teens with good measurements and a solid performance at the combine. Why back out because someone at 24 likes you?
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Probably likes the situation. Good team, good coaches. Teams at the bottom of the first are usually the more stable ones. Assuming it’s Portland, immediate playing time as well. These players’ pay day is that second contract. Minimal short term loss to be put into the best situation to bank.
 
Gronk Brady said:
How is that a threat??? I just meant to say he wouldn’t call me cupcake to my face... you seem to be ok with him instigating and name calling but I strike a nerve with you because my view of the team is different... get a life man... I could care less about anyone here... I’m only posting my thoughts on team to give people another perspective, not trying to make friends like you
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Please tell me how you mean to "show him" that he's the cupcake? :dunno: WTF? You gonna fuckin' dance battle or somethin?

Newsflash, you're the one who needs a life because trust me, you're failing at the posting of your thoughts to give perspective bit... Another thing, I'm not tryna be your friend either bruh...
 
Scalma said:
Those later picks have value, especially when so many teams are looking to crunch salary.
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rookie scale salary is a bargain now days and the 24th and 26th pick would have been this past year at $2.5 mil total and the 13th pick would be $2.184. The difference between the 13th and either of the other 2 picks is less than $1mil. I don't think that's enough of an incentive in comparison to the type of player that would be available at 13th. For 2019 the numbers will be a bit higher. In a less than deep draft later picks in my opinion would be less valuable than if it was a deep draft. That's not to say a team can't luck out and find that diamond in the later part of the first round but it's much harder than if it is a deep draft. I do agree they have some value, but just not to the extent to getting a lottery pick.
 
dviss1 said:
Please tell me how you mean to "show him" that he's the cupcake? :dunno: WTF? You gonna fuckin' dance battle or somthin?

Newsflash, you're the one who needs a life because trust me, you're failing at the posting of your thoughts to give perspective bit... Another thing, I'm not tryna be your friend either bruh...
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That’s your opinion man... I think you’re failing at posting your thoughts too
 
dviss1 said:
There's your schtick... Lots of people in this forum like Hutchison too.
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It's not a schtick. I'm being serious. Neil listens to Dame....maybe or maybe not to a fault. If Dame likes him, I think Neil makes it happen
 
Scalma said:
Probably likes the situation. Good team, good coaches. Teams at the bottom of the first are usually the more stable ones. Assuming it’s Portland, immediate playing time as well. These players’ pay day is that second contract. Minimal short term loss to be put into the best situation to bank.
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This early in the draft process it still doesn't make sense though for either the Blazers to make a promise or for a prospect to not want to look at all their options.
 
Gronk Brady said:
That’s your opinion man... I think you’re failing at posting your thoughts too
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Thinking... That may be your problem right there... If you've noticed (and I don't think you have) most in here don't care for what you think.

Bottom line: Stop threatening people.
 
dviss1 said:
Thinking... That may be your problem right there... If you've noticed (and I don't think you have) most in here don't care for what you think.

Bottom line: Stop threatening people.
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As I said, that was not a threat... just telling him he wouldn’t call me a cupcake to my face. Can’t stand fake tough guys like you and him that try to bully people behind a keyboard... I’m a business professional in my late 30’s... I don’t fight. And I don’t post my opinion for closed minded people like you who will blindly support Neil no matter what he does... just putting my observation out there for anyone open minded that likes to hear many points of view before deciding where they stand... as you can see my opinion of Neil changed over time... I believe you constantly have to prove yourself and get better... whereas you give Neil a lifetime achievement award
 
Scalma said:


That promise is portland, I’d bet on it.

Lillard connection

Team need

Four year guy with Olshey characteristics (work ethic, etc)

It’s obvious. I wouldn’t be surprised if we even jumped up a couple spots to secure him.
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Who is his agent? Seems shortsighted.

Edit: just looked it up. His most recent clients are Wade Baldwin, Zach Collins,Cliff Alexander and RJ Hunter who we brought into camp a few yrs back.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent_clients/Kieran-Piller/747

Jeez this is obvious
 
hoopsjock said:
Kinda crazy to make a bet before knowing what moves either team will make but I think this will make the season fun.
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Plus, I think this would be a great idea no matter who wins the bet. It would give each of you the opportunity to see the other side of things. Of course, I am exempt.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Calm down man, that was not a threat... I don’t like how he calls everyone cupcake and thinks he is a tough guy... just want him to stop the name calling... seems like he is always trying to start shit

And I have no idea what his age is
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If the shoe fits then don't act like a twit. My age is 63. Now there is no confusion. What's your age cupcake? I don't call "everyone" cupcake. I've reserved that one for you. :devilwink:
 
Lanny said:
Plus, I think this would be a great idea no matter who wins the bet. It would give each of you the opportunity to see the other side of things. Of course, I am exempt.
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Minnesota is going into the summer with almost the same amount in guaranteed salary as we have. Jamal Crawford opted out and Bjelica is a free agent. They only have 8 guys guaranteed for that $110 million. They have the 20th pick and MLE but have no Trade Exceptions. We'll see if they can get any better this summer.
 
Scalma said:
I didn’t even know he’s repped by bartelsteins agency.

Yup. Write it down. That’s Neils boy.
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Showing our cards a month before the draft seems like a stupid idea. And this doesn't look like a smokescreen. otoh, if he goes in and kills the workouts, he'd get out of our range.

I'm guessing the team that made him a promise is regretting this news getting out regardless
 
Scalma said:
I didn’t even know he’s repped by bartelsteins agency.

Yup. Write it down. That’s Neils boy.
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Funny thing is by skipping the combine there becomes a bit of mystery and intrigue around him as teams wonder what it is about him that led to a promise.
 
hoopsjock said:
I don't get that though. He has the potential to jump into the teens with good measurements and a solid performance at the combine. Why back out because someone at 24 likes you?
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Does seem odd, but he won't be able to dodge the team workouts where his measurements will be taken. It may not be a red flag, but it should be a yellow flag as I want players that are willing to take on the challenge to sell themself and take on all challenges and I have been high on Hutchinson when I mentioned him and Bates-Diop as intriguing prospects for us.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Showing our cards a month before the draft seems like a stupid idea. And this doesn't look like a smokescreen. otoh, if he goes in and kills the workouts, he'd get out of our range.

I'm guessing the team that made him a promise is regretting this news getting out regardless
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Well, the news was going to get out when he didn't show for the combine and that's well before the draft. I also think it would be foolish for a player to get a promise before the workouts. It's not like he's a standout type performer from a big program. He needs to sell himself.
 
hoopsjock said:
Funny thing is by skipping the combine there becomes a bit of mystery and intrigue around him as teams wonder what it is about him that led to a promise.
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If he is our guy, we need to hope this news dies down
 
Man, every time I see a trade idea that has us getting back Joakim Noah I just cringe. I mean, really? He makes as much as Evan Turner. I'd rather have Evan Turner.
 
CupWizier said:
Does seem odd, but he won't be able to dodge the team workouts where his measurements will be taken. It may not be a red flag, but it should be a yellow flag as I want players that are willing to take on the challenge to sell themself and take on all challenges and I have been high on Hutchinson when I mentioned him and Bates-Diop as intriguing prospects for us.
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Lmao. Maybe he wants to play here with his boy Dame so he doesn't want to sell himself higher. Why's that an issue?
 
If we didn't make the promise, we need to trade up for him.
 
BBert said:
Man, every time I see a trade idea that has us getting back Joakim Noah I just cringe. I mean, really? He makes as much as Evan Turner. I'd rather have Evan Turner.
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The thought process is to get the #9 pick for taking on Noah, no one actually wants or thinks it's a good idea to have Noah on the team.
 
Mediocre Man said:
It's not a schtick. I'm being serious. Neil listens to Dame....maybe or maybe not to a fault. If Dame likes him, I think Neil makes it happen
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There is value in keeping your franchise player happy. All teams do it, to some degree.
 
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