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The person with the least credibility saying I've lost all credibility is extremely ironic. Do I know basketball? What a great question.

No shit there isn't ISO ball with them. Is your reading comprehension really that bad?

I'm saying CJ and Dame have the skill to play that style, and I don't believe they're unwilling too. I think it's a philosophical and style of play issue, without enough sets utilizing those guys off the ball like Curry and Thompson are.

I don't even watch the games? You're not that stupid, are you?
Oh so they have the skill to and are willing to but decide not to because they want Stotts fired? You make no sense... they will be 27 and 28 to start next season... they aren’t changing shit and you know nothing about basketball... also, Curry might be the best shooter in the history of the league and actually produces in playoffs too, and Klay is 6’7” and plays lock down defense
 
We have one short guard relative to his position, and that's C.J. Dame isn't short at all for a PG, he's actually one of the bigger PGs in the league.

So a short SG... Okay. What does that hurt? Defense. That's about it. We showed we could play near-elite level defense last year. So what's the issue with C.J. being a short SG?
Hurts on offense too because it means one of those guys is always guarded by a player who is bigger than them and therefore they have to work harder to get the ball off. Also the passing lanes are different when your 6’8 vs being 6’3.
At this point though I would like to see a new coach if their gonna stock with the two guards for another year.
 
Oh so they have the skill to and are willing to but decide not to because they want Stotts fired? You make no sense... they will be 27 and 28 to start next season... they aren’t changing shit and you know nothing about basketball... also, Curry might be the best shooter in the history of the league and actually produces in playoffs too, and Klay is 6’7” and plays lock down defense
Bro, what is your issue? Come play in my rec league and we'll see how knows how to play when you're caught out there not knowing what the fuck to do. Better yet, come to our 3-on-3 games. Show your face to some of the people you talk down to. You're a hothead who thinks he knows more than everybody while constantly proving that he doesn't.

You take a portion of my point, and connect it to something unrelated. You're so in your own head that you can't comprehend anything being said to you. Learn how to conversate, for the love of God....

Our offense has a LACK OF PLAYER MOVEMENT. Guys don't move off the ball. Guys don't screen. Stotts doesn't put the players in situations where they have score/pass options. How does Dame get nearly 7 assists a game if he doesn't pass though? Most of those assists are because he creates them out of nothing. Aminu goes one-v-one when he doesn't have the skill too. Evan Turner's assists have been cut in half since his time in Boston. Shabazz Napier pounds the ball into the floor. Do you really think we have the two most isolation players in the game, and it's because that's they're only skill and that's all they want to do? Are you serious with that shit?
 
Hurts on offense too because it means one of those guys is always guarded by a player who is bigger than them and therefore they have to work harder to get the ball off. Also the passing lanes are different when your 6’8 vs being 6’3.
At this point though I would like to see a new coach if their gonna stock with the two guards for another year.
But Dame and CJ have shown that they can still score at an elite level no matter who is guarding them. How many SGs are 6'8? Most are 6'5 or 6'6... How does it hurt having a 6'4 SG on offense when that SG gets over 20ppg? That makes no sense. Would having Evan Turner at SG be better, since he's 6'7...?

How are the passing lanes different when you're 6'8 vs. 6'3? Yeah, you can throw it over the top but the greatest passers in the history of the game are usually PGs that are 6'3 and shorter... So how is passing hurt by being that size? That makes no sense either...
 
But Dame and CJ have shown that they can still score at an elite level no matter who is guarding them. How many SGs are 6'8? Most are 6'5 or 6'6... How does it hurt having a 6'4 SG on offense when that SG gets over 20ppg? That makes no sense. Would having Evan Turner at SG be better, since he's 6'7...?

How are the passing lanes different when you're 6'8 vs. 6'3? Yeah, you can throw it over the top but the greatest passers in the history of the game are usually PGs that are 6'3 and shorter... So how is passing hurt by being that size? That makes no sense either...
Greatest passers in nba history are Larry Bird, Lebron James, Magic Johnson and Stockton only one of those was the “pg” height. Look I’m not saying they can’t win, but how many teams have won starting 2 6’3 or shorter guards? There may be more but in the “modernish” NBA the pistons are all I can think of. Height and Length is more and more a requirement in today’s nba.
 
Greatest passers in nba history are Larry Bird, Lebron James, Magic Johnson and Stockton only one of those was the “pg” height. Look I’m not saying they can’t win, but how many teams have won starting 2 6’3 or shorter guards? There may be more but in the “modernish” NBA the pistons are all I can think of. Height and Length is more and more a requirement in today’s nba.
Steve Nash? Pete Marovich? Chris Paul?

Size doesn't make a difference. Passing lanes are gaps between defenders... how does a 5 inch difference in height make it harder to pass between defenders?
 
I just realized this dude listed Larry Bird as one of the 4 greatest passes in NBA history... lol.
 
What the hell does this have to with anything? You Stu have yet to tell me how being shorter makes it harder to pass between defenders....
You’ve yet to tell me another team besides one that has won starting two 6’3 guards.
You notice how when Dame was being guarded by longer guards Rondo and Holliday he was turning the ball over a lot and passes were being deflected a lot more than normal. I don’t get the question? Of course when you’re playing someone a lot longer and taller than you the passing lanes are smaller... The bigger is problem is they are playing two 6’3 guys.
 
I just realized this dude listed Larry Bird as one of the 4 greatest passes in NBA history... lol.
What so funny... maybe not top 4 but he is one of the best passes ever... dude average 6.5 assist per game as a SF/PF for his career... again you show your lack of basketball knowledge
 
You’ve yet to tell me another team besides one that has won starting two 6’3 guards.
You notice how when Dame was being guarded by longer guards Rondo and Holliday he was turning the ball over a lot and passes were being deflected a lot more than normal. I don’t get the question? Of course when you’re playing someone a lot longer and taller than you the passing lanes are smaller... The bigger is problem is they are playing two 6’3 guys.
Dame was being constantly trapped by Anthony Davis, wasn't being used off the ball at all.

If we're talking about having a smaller SG making passing lanes bigger for the other team, that makes sense, but as I said, defense wasn't a problem...
 
What so funny... maybe not top 4 but he is one of the best passes ever... dude average 6.5 assist per game as a PF for his career... again you show your lack of basketball knowledge
Lmao. So you agree with me then say my point shows that I have a lack of knowledge.
 
I just realized this dude listed Larry Bird as one of the 4 greatest passes in NBA history... lol.
You don’t have to spend much time googling it to find Bird is on a lot of top 10 lists for passers. Sure his assists numbers aren’t as high as a lot pg’s whose job was basically to pass the ball, but he was an unbelievable passer.
 
Just got around to watching Gary Trent Jr. He’s got something that can’t be taught. He’s built for the moment. As for his game, I see a guy that can score multiple ways. Sneaky athleticism. He seems like the type that only uses it when he has to. Roy was the same way. No I’m not comparing him to Roy so relax. But he’s going to be a very good pro. Still young too. Where is he projected to go? If we stood pat, I’d add his name to the mix.
 
Dame was being constantly trapped by Anthony Davis, wasn't being used off the ball at all.

If we're talking about having a smaller SG making passing lanes bigger for the other team, that makes sense, but as I said, defense wasn't a problem...
Ok go play basketball vs someone 3 inches taller than you with a 7-8 inch longer wingspan and pass the ball while they press you. Then do the same vs someone roughly the same size and length. Tell me which ones easier...
 
Just got around to watching Gary Trent Jr. He’s got something that can’t be taught. He’s built for the moment. As for his game, I see a guy that can score multiple ways. Sneaky athleticism. He seems like the type that only uses it when he has to. Roy was the same way. No I’m not comparing him to Roy so relax. But he’s going to be a very good pro. Still young too. Where is he projected to go? If we stood pat, I’d add his name to the mix.
Is he in our range? What type of Player is he ?
 
You don’t have to spend much time googling it to find Bird is on a lot of top 10 lists for passers. Sure his assists numbers aren’t as high as a lot pg’s whose job was basically to pass the ball, but he was an unbelievable passer.
Top 10? Maybe. Not Top 4.
 
Ok go play basketball vs someone 3 inches taller than you with a 7-8 inch longer wingspan and pass the ball while they press you. Then do the same vs someone roughly the same size and length. Tell me which ones easier...
But we had a near ELITE defense last season so how is C.J. being 6'4 hurting our (top 10) defense so much that he can't be a starting SG on a good playoff team? You're saying that his height is causing a problem on defense when defense isn't a problem. You're argument makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Top 10? Maybe. Not Top 4.
Fair enough, sure. I’ll go with that the ranking things are all very subjective.

I haven’t claimed the Blazers can’t win with these two guards just that height can be an issue and they need to either scheme around it or have a lot of length around them.

I haven’t went and looked but I wracking my brain I really can’t think of another team that’s won starting guards of that height, other than Detroit.
I really wouldn’t mind seeing a new coach see if he’s got a different approach.
 
Just got around to watching Gary Trent Jr. He’s got something that can’t be taught. He’s built for the moment. As for his game, I see a guy that can score multiple ways. Sneaky athleticism. He seems like the type that only uses it when he has to. Roy was the same way. No I’m not comparing him to Roy so relax. But he’s going to be a very good pro. Still young too. Where is he projected to go? If we stood pat, I’d add his name to the mix.
I actually think he's one of the most overrated players in this draft tbh. Not a good defender, and overrated shooter that doesn't have the quickness or ball handling to create off the dribble. Not much of a passer either even though, at 6'6, he's likely a SG.
 
Tiny Nate Archibald, led the league in assists and scoring in the same season..
But only when he had great teammates did he win a championship.
 
Fair enough, sure. I’ll go with that the ranking things are all very subjective.

I haven’t claimed the Blazers can’t win with these two guards just that height can be an issue and they need to either scheme around it or have a lot of length around them.

I haven’t went and looked but I wracking my brain I really can’t think of another team that’s won starting guards of that height, other than Detroit.
I really wouldn’t mind seeing a new coach see if he’s got a different approach.
It's just the reasoning as to specific reasons why C.J. and his lack of height makes it impossible for us to contend never make sense. Defensively, we proved otherwise last season. Offensively, C.J. is tremendous even though he's slightly undersized. So I don't see the area where his height is an issue, if we can still be an elite defensive team with him.

And why do people keep lumping Dame in as a small guard? He's 6'3.. that's very solid height for a PG. Dame's not a short PG...
 
Bro, what is your issue? Come play in my rec league and we'll see how knows how to play when you're caught out there not knowing what the fuck to do. Better yet, come to our 3-on-3 games. Show your face to some of the people you talk down to.
How old are you man? Lol... what is that gonna prove... is Mo Cheeks a better coach than Brad Stevens? Because he was a much better basketball players... I’m 37 man, I spend my time working and making lots of money so I can travel and enjoy life... I don’t play basketball anymore and risk injury. But even if I did, like I said, it proves nothing about basketball knowledge by who plays better in a rec league, hahaha
 
How old are you man? Lol... what is that gonna prove... is Mo Cheeks a better coach than Brad Stevens? Because he was a much better basketball players... I’m 37 man, I spend my time working and making lots of money so I can travel and enjoy life... I don’t play basketball anymore and risk injury. But even if I did, like I said, it proves nothing basketball knowledge by who plays better in a rec league, hahaha
I'm not talking about basketball skill and playing better, I'm talking about knowing how to play (aka knowing the game)... knowing where to be on the court... knowing the right pass to make... knowing when and where to cut... that's all knowledge-based. That's having basketball IQ. It doesn't require skill. But you likely don't know those things while, at the same time, you're trying to tell me I have no basketball knowledge. You're arguing like an idiot when you say stuff like that. You can argue your point but you discredit yourself with your abrasiveness.
 
I'm not talking about basketball skill and playing better, I'm talking about knowing how to play (aka knowing the game)... knowing where to be on the court... knowing the right pass to make... knowing when and where to cut... that's all knowledge-based. That's having basketball IQ. It doesn't require skill. But you likely don't know those things while, at the same time, you're trying to tell me I have no basketball knowledge. You're arguing like an idiot when you say stuff like that. You can argue your point but you discredit yourself with your abrasiveness.
If you think Dame and CJ will ever compete for a title after what you saw this year, you know nothing about basketball
 
"If you don't agree with me, then you know nothing!"

Nice.
We will see after the season who knows what... when the Blazers finish with a worse seed than last year and get knocked out in first rd again... then we can pull up these old posts
 
I actually think he's one of the most overrated players in this draft tbh. Not a good defender, and overrated shooter that doesn't have the quickness or ball handling to create off the dribble. Not much of a passer either even though, at 6'6, he's likely a SG.

He’s not much of a ball handler but I love how he moves off the ball and his post game shows potential as well. He’s already got an ideal SG build, and will only get stronger with time since he’ll still be a teenager as a rookie. I see him as a Dillon Brooks type. I don’t know how he’s overrated since I haven’t seen him mocked any higher than 18.
 
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