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You can find someone else to post the threads I'm not doing it anymore.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Beginning in 2020, the roster size from Opening Day through Aug. 31 (and during the postseason) will increase from 25 to 26, with the minimum number of players on the roster increasing from 24 to 25, and roster sizes for doubleheaders increasing from 26 to 27.

From 2020 forward, the expanded roster will be eliminated, though each team will still be allowed 40 players under major-league contracts, and the active roster will expand only from 26 to 28. Additionally, all teams will be required to have 28 players on their active rosters after August 31.
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Great, this will give Cashman more reason to get relievers, sigh
 
Scuttlebutt on Cole during the ALCS favored a move to the Angels. Moreno paid for Pujols, Pretty Boy Wilson, and Junkie Josh Hamilton. In addition the gave Trout a Kinds Ransom and just resigned Maddon to manage. I'd say Houston will make a pretty strong bid to resign him as well. Age is 29/30 Might go 3 with an extra year option at most. On the Yankees side someone is going to have to grab Judge, Sanchez, and Stanton by the stacking swivel and teach them how to cut down on strikeout. They had LeMahieu setting the example all season some how they just didn't get it. That final AB by Judge after LeMahieu tid the game was an embarrassment. In the case of Di Di I'd give him the qualifying offer or a reasonable 2/3 year deal. Torres naps too much at times to play shortstop. Betances picked a bad time to miss a year, Chapman is no closer so he can get out of Dodge. Stanton is the new Ellsbury, big contract no play, Cashman should be very embarrassed over those two.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
Scuttlebutt on Cole during the ALCS favored a move to the Angels. Moreno paid for Pujols, Pretty Boy Wilson, and Junkie Josh Hamilton. In addition the gave Trout a Kinds Ransom and just resigned Maddon to manage. I'd say Houston will make a pretty strong bid to resign him as well. Age is 29/30 Might go 3 with an extra year option at most. On the Yankees side someone is going to have to grab Judge, Sanchez, and Stanton by the stacking swivel and teach them how to cut down on strikeout. They had LeMahieu setting the example all season some how they just didn't get it. That final AB by Judge after LeMahieu tid the game was an embarrassment. In the case of Di Di I'd give him the qualifying offer or a reasonable 2/3 year deal. Torres naps too much at times to play shortstop. Betances picked a bad time to miss a year, Chapman is no closer so he can get out of Dodge. Stanton is the new Ellsbury, big contract no play, Cashman should be very embarrassed over those two.
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who do you replace Chapman with?
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
who do you replace Chapman with?
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Just about any closer/reliever with an ERA under 2.21.


Aside from relievers that may be acquired via trade here's the 2020 Free agent relievers;





Yusmeiro Petit (35, 1.4) -- $5.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Will Smith (30, 1.2)
Kenley Jansen (32, 1.2) -- can opt out of 2 years, $38 million remaining on contract
Will Harris (35, 1.1)
Sergio Romo (37, 1.0)
Chris Martin (34, 1.0)
Jake Diekman (33, 1.0) -- $5.75 mutual option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Brandon Kintzler (35, 0.9)
Drew Pomeranz (31, 0.7)
Sean Doolittle (33, 0.7) -- $6.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Brad Brach (34, 0.7)
Yoshihisa Hirano (36, 0.5)
Collin McHugh (33, 0.5)
Juan Nicasio (33, 0.5)
Craig Stammen (36, 0.4)
Fernando Rodney (43, 0.4)
Joe Smith (36, 0.4)
David Hernandez (35, 0.3)
Jeremy Jeffress (32, 0.3)
Tony Sipp (36, 0.3)
Cory Gearrin (34, 0.3)
Steve Cishek (34, 0.2)
Tommy Hunter (33, 0.2)
Josh Tomlin (35, 0.2)
Dellin Betances (32, 0.1)
Darren O’Day (37, 0.1)
David Phelps (33, 0.1) -- $5 million club option for 2020
Luke Gregerson (36, 0.1)
Aaron Loup (32, 0.1) — $2 million club option for 2020
Matt Albers (37, 0.0)
Mike Dunn (35, 0.0)
Pedro Strop (35, 0.0) JC Ramírez (31, 0.0) Greg Holland (34, -0.1)
Hector Santiago (32, -0.1)
Nate Jones (34, -0.1) -- $5.15 million club option for 2020 ($1.25 million buyout)
Tony Barnette (36, -0.1) -- $3 million club option for 2020
Tyler Thornburg (31, -0.1)
Arodys Vizcaino (29, -0.1)
Dan Otero (35, -0.1) -- $1.5 million club option for 2020 ($100,000 buyout)
Shawn Kelley (36, -0.2) -- $2.5 million club option for 2020 ($250,000 buyout)
Hector Rondon (32, -0.2)
Pat Neshek (39, -0.3) -- $7 million club option for 2020 ($750,000 buyout)
Seunghwan Oh (37, -0.3)
Trevor Rosenthal (30, -0.3)
Tony Watson (35, -0.3) -- $2.5 million player option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Wily Peralta (31, -0.4)
Zach Duke (37, -0.4)
Jonny Venters (35, -0.4)
Jared Hughes (34, -0.5) -- $3 million club option for 2020 ($250,000 buyout)
Anthony Swarzak (34, -0.7)
Cody Allen (31, -0.7)
Adam Warren (32, -0.8) -- $2.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Brandon Morrow (35, N/A) -- $12 million club option for 2020 ($3 million buyout); didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Josh Fields (34, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Bud Norris (35, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Addison Reed (31, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Tony Cingrani (30, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Brian Duensing (37, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
 
yankeesince59 said:
Just about any closer/reliever with an ERA under 2.21.


Aside from relievers that may be acquired via trade here's the 2020 Free agent relievers;





Yusmeiro Petit (35, 1.4) -- $5.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout) career ERA 4.99 career WHIP 1.60 career save....6 ... 35 years old..really?
Will Smith (30, 1.2) career ERA 3.53 career WHIP 1.247 career saves 49, 34 saves in 2019 and a All Star... potential replacement
Kenley Jansen (32, 1.2) -- can opt out of 2 years, $38 million remaining on contract similar numbers to chapman except gives up more home runs playing in LA than Chapman playing in NY
Will Harris (35, 1.1) 20 career saves in 8 years....
Sergio Romo (37, 1.0) era last two years 4.14 and 3.43 20 and 25 saves..37 years old what happened to him from 2015-2017?
Chris Martin (34, 1.0) career ERA 4.51!!!! pitched 17 innings in 2019, you may as well go with Betances
Jake Diekman (33, 1.0) -- $5.75 mutual option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout) last two years 4.73 and 4.65 era, you really want this guy as a closer?
Brandon Kintzler (35, 0.9) how is this 34 year old better than Chapman? 3 saves last two years 2.68 era in 2019.. 4.60 in 2018?
Drew Pomeranz (31, 0.7) 4.85 era in 2019, 6.08 era in 2018 5 career saves in 9 years...Chad Green is better than this...
Sean Doolittle (33, 0.7) -- $6.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout) coming off a horrible year 11 hrs 4.05 era 1.300 whip
Brad Brach (34, 0.7) 5.47 era in 2019 33 career saves in 9 years
Yoshihisa Hirano (36, 0.5) 4.75 era in 2019 total 4 career saves ..36 years old 7 home runs in 62 innings
Collin McHugh (33, 0.5) 4.70 era in 2019 0 career saves
Juan Nicasio (33, 0.5) 4.75 era in 2019, 6.00 era in 2018...come on...
Craig Stammen (36, 0.4)
Fernando Rodney (43, 0.4)
Joe Smith (36, 0.4)
David Hernandez (35, 0.3)
Jeremy Jeffress (32, 0.3)
Tony Sipp (36, 0.3)
Cory Gearrin (34, 0.3)
Steve Cishek (34, 0.2)
Tommy Hunter (33, 0.2)
Josh Tomlin (35, 0.2)
Dellin Betances (32, 0.1)
Darren O’Day (37, 0.1)
David Phelps (33, 0.1) -- $5 million club option for 2020
Luke Gregerson (36, 0.1)
Aaron Loup (32, 0.1) — $2 million club option for 2020
Matt Albers (37, 0.0)
Mike Dunn (35, 0.0)
Pedro Strop (35, 0.0) JC Ramírez (31, 0.0) Greg Holland (34, -0.1)
Hector Santiago (32, -0.1)
Nate Jones (34, -0.1) -- $5.15 million club option for 2020 ($1.25 million buyout)
Tony Barnette (36, -0.1) -- $3 million club option for 2020
Tyler Thornburg (31, -0.1)
Arodys Vizcaino (29, -0.1)
Dan Otero (35, -0.1) -- $1.5 million club option for 2020 ($100,000 buyout)
Shawn Kelley (36, -0.2) -- $2.5 million club option for 2020 ($250,000 buyout)
Hector Rondon (32, -0.2)
Pat Neshek (39, -0.3) -- $7 million club option for 2020 ($750,000 buyout)
Seunghwan Oh (37, -0.3)
Trevor Rosenthal (30, -0.3)
Tony Watson (35, -0.3) -- $2.5 million player option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Wily Peralta (31, -0.4)
Zach Duke (37, -0.4)
Jonny Venters (35, -0.4)
Jared Hughes (34, -0.5) -- $3 million club option for 2020 ($250,000 buyout)
Anthony Swarzak (34, -0.7)
Cody Allen (31, -0.7)
Adam Warren (32, -0.8) -- $2.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Brandon Morrow (35, N/A) -- $12 million club option for 2020 ($3 million buyout); didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Josh Fields (34, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Bud Norris (35, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Addison Reed (31, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Tony Cingrani (30, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
Brian Duensing (37, N/A) -- didn't appear in MLB in 2019
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i stopped at Nicasio...come on ...you cant be serious with this list. 5 guys didnt even appear in the majors..most of these guys are middle relievers you really want to put anyone of these guys out in the 9th inning just because Chapman doesnt go 1,2,3 as much as you would like...

I may as well say Greg Bird at first base is a great replacement for DJ
 
yankeesince59 said:
Out of 60 appearances this year Chapman had only 16 clean innings. He's simply not dependable.
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plenty of closers with a WHIP over 1.
Brad Hand
Will Smith
Raisel Iglesias
Kenley Jansen
Ian Kennedy
Alex Colome
Taylor Rogers
Sean Doollittle
Hector Neris

which would mean that they arent doing a lot of 1,2,3 innings if your averaging a baserunner per inning
 
Ken Giles 96% save %
Kirby Yates 93%
Alex Colome 91%
Blake Parker 91% (11 total saves opportunites)
Felipe Vazquez 90%
Will Smith 89%
Carlos Martinez 89%

those are the only guys who converted better than Chapman last year...
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
Ok so with the sadness of yet another year ending without a parade let's start to look toward the 2020 year. ....


If I were to write a grocery list of wants and needs for the 2020 Yanks, what would it look like?
If we were to have a spring cleaning of the house in February, what garbage is going to the curb?

Here is my list:

1. Cole or bust. We need to get back to being the old Yanks and throw as much money at this kid as possible. Top end of the rotation guys do not come along every year or two or three. He is young and is nasty.

2. The need for a left handed hitter. One of the major flaws in this team is it is too right handed. If we are keeping Stanton then something has to be done with possibly first base. We need a true left handed first basemen who is a a good contact hitter. What would it take to get Anthony Rizzo from the Cubs....would they be willing to trade him for Sanchez? Unfortunately they may be set at catcher but we need to find a way ...three way as my patience for Sanchez is over.

3. Move DJ to full time 2nd base, torres to short, but in doing that we lose another left handed bat....

4. Say good bye to Larry Rothchild

5. Find out from MLB what the hell they are going to do with German, like right now enough is enough this shouldnt take as long as it has been. Something should have been finalized, are they waiting to after the World Series to announce something. This fucked the Yanks in the post season and off season plans cant be held up by what may or may not happen to German in the off season.

6. See what Betances wants in terms of years and salary. We cant have enough bullpen guys
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>My take:
1.Cole would want Alex Rodriquez money.
2.Stanton doesn't have a clue as a first baseman. He couldn't think that fast.
3.Keep DJ at first and also have him try catcher too.
4.Give Larry Rothchild all the golden parachute money he can choke out of the organization because that's the way NYY operates.
5.German got depressed, left baseball and is currently working a pretzel cart in Yonkers.
6.Pay Betances fair and get him a couple of good suits and a fur coat from Macy's for his departure when he gives NYY the finger as he walks out the door.
 
It is amazing how Cashman is not capable of obtaining &/or developing steadfast pitching. But watch him
obtain shortstops & second basemen!.....if they could only pitch LOL.
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
i stopped at Nicasio...come on ...you cant be serious with this list. 5 guys didnt even appear in the majors..most of these guys are middle relievers you really want to put anyone of these guys out in the 9th inning just because Chapman doesnt go 1,2,3 as much as you would like...

I may as well say Greg Bird at first base is a great replacement for DJ
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Umm, it was just a copied and pasted list...that's all. I did not single anyone out. And your Greg Bird analogy is way off target. I've already said I wanted Bird gone for next year.

Justify if you can, why why relievers are pigeon-holed into "mid-reliever" and/or "closers"?...it makes no sense whatsoever. Who's to say that the more crucial part of a game is not in the 7-8th innings with runners on base with one out in a 1 run game, as opposed to leading by 3 runs in the 9th inning with no outs and no one on base ?

And while you're at it, explain why some people put a premium on a pitcher gets credit for a "save" or a "hold". For example, a pitcher is called in for the 9th inning with his team leading by 3 runs, he promptly gives up 5 base hits and 2 earned runs before getting the 3rd out...but he's given credit for a "save"?
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
Ken Giles 96% save %
Kirby Yates 93%
Alex Colome 91%
Blake Parker 91% (11 total saves opportunites)
Felipe Vazquez 90%
Will Smith 89%
Carlos Martinez 89%

those are the only guys who converted better than Chapman last year...
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"Conversion rate"?...OK, thanx for at least using your own hand picked stats to show that there are in fact pitchers who can do as well if not better than Chapman.

Again, using "saves" as a barometer?...and again, using only "closers" as the only ones who can get batters out in the 9th inning? So you're admitting that facing the heart of another other team's batting order with runners in scoring position in the 7th or 8th innings in a 1 run game, is not as crucial as facing the bottom of the order in the 9th with a 3 run lead?
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Umm, it was just a copied and pasted list...that's all. I did not single anyone out. And your Greg Bird analogy is way off target. I've already said I wanted Bird gone for next year.

Justify if you can, why why relievers are pigeon-holed into "mid-reliever" and/or "closers"?...it makes no sense whatsoever. Who's to say that the more crucial part of a game is not in the 7-8th innings with runners on base with one out in a 1 run game, as opposed to leading by 3 runs in the 9th inning with no outs and no one on base ?

And while you're at it, explain why some people put a premium on a pitcher gets credit for a "save" or a "hold". For example, a pitcher is called in for the 9th inning with his team leading by 3 runs, he promptly gives up 5 base hits and 2 earned runs before getting the 3rd out...but he's given credit for a "save"?
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So you are now dismissing the role of a closer, there have many pitchers who have pitched well in the middle innings who have failed when the spotlight is on then at the end of the game.
 
yankeesince59 said:
"Conversion rate"?...OK, thanx for at least using your own hand picked stats to show that there are in fact pitchers who can do as well if not better than Chapman.

Again, using "saves" as a barometer?...and again, using only "closers" as the only ones who can get batters out in the 9th inning? So you're admitting that facing the heart of another other team's batting order with runners in scoring position in the 7th or 8th innings in a 1 run game, is not as crucial as facing the bottom of the order in the 9th with a 3 run lead?
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Yeah at least im using some kind of stat as a barometer vs just copy and paste a list.

Why bother having any stats if we cant use them in an argument.

Your saying that because chapman had only 16 1,2,3 innings he is unreliable...yet save % is not something to go off of..whip isnt something to go off of.

You want ken giles as your closer?
Who are the better closers in todays game that you would take over chapman.
No copy and paste.
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
So you are now dismissing the role of a closer, there have many pitchers who have pitched well in the middle innings who have failed when the spotlight is on then at the end of the game.
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Actually, yes I am. You might want to do a little research on the subject...I would do a little "copy and paste" to help you out, but that appears to upset you.
 
You still havent answered the question, Who do you want as the closer that is better than who we have right now unless your answer is the copy and paste job in which none of those is the answer.
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
You still havent answered the question, Who do you want as the closer that is better than who we have right now unless your answer is the copy and paste job in which none of those is the answer.
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Are you dense or simply reading impaired?...have you failed to grasp what I've been saying?...or did you not even take the time to read and digest what I've said. And I've also asked you questions that you skipped over or refused to answer.

I think I've already stated that I'm not for "pigeon-holing" certain pitchers for certain innings, and I've voiced my reasons why. Did you miss that too?



Again, do some research, read up on Keith Law, Bill James, and others...or maybe go back and reread what has been said here, and if it still does not sink in, read it again until it does.
 
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I personally do not take any quotes at face value. Theae athletes are trained to give comments that are ambiguous. Only a complete idiot is going to say yes...its the Dodgers only. You are going to hear...i love my time in houstonx it woulf be a dream come true pitching close to home, who wouldnt want to wear the historical yankee pinstripes..blah blah blah
 
Springer and Correa are arbitration-eligible this year.
Verlander and Cranky i.e. Greinke, are pulling in 68 million (a yr) through 2021.

I would be surprised if Houston can match an offer.
I would be surprised if the Dodgers can outbid the Angel's as well.
Then again with all that Time Warner Brothers money, feeding damn near the entire Dodgers payroll per year; who knows.

He'd look good in Pinstripes.
So might Strasburg...

Cole
Strasburg
Tanaka
Paxton
Montgomery

Turn Severino into a Closer.; Happ and German also.
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
I personally do not take any quotes at face value. Theae athletes are trained to give comments that are ambiguous. Only a complete idiot is going to say yes...its the Dodgers only. You are going to hear...i love my time in houstonx it woulf be a dream come true pitching close to home, who wouldnt want to wear the historical yankee pinstripes..blah blah blah
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It’s all about money. He wants the west coast but he’s be an idiot to take the Yankees off his list if only to drive up his payday.
 
Rangers94 said:
It’s all about money. He wants the west coast but he’s be an idiot to take the Yankees off his list if only to drive up his payday.
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I'm hearing more rumors out here on the Left Coast; about the Angels willing to make Cole a higher offer than the Bums.
 
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