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Luka Samantic is a player to keep an eye on, and is a prospect that will likely be in our range.

 
BonesJones said:
@JDC what do you think of Morant?
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He's number 2 in this draft for me at this point. Might be the only primary creator+scorer.

His handle and passing instincts are some of the few standout skills in this draft. Wiry strong, can finish with both hands, slithery, good 2 foot athlete, great feel in PNR...if the shooting develops he's a potential all star type.

Liked what I've heard in interviews too. Confident, coach raves about him, seems like a gym rat who loves to watch film.
 
Fan of Tyler Herro.

NBA level skill and fluidity scoring off the dribble / in PNR. Not a great vertical athlete, but he has touch around rim and he's a quick and fluid mover on both ends. Suprisingly good instincts defensively as well.

The intangible stuff looks to be there too. Competitive, high IQ, hard worker from all accounts and has a lot of confidence on and off the floor.

Not shooting great from 3 so far but that'll come. Length and frame isn't good either, but he's a top 20 kid for me with room to move up.
 
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Operation Brandon Clarke!

National ranks:

#6 in Defensive win shares.

#2 in Box plus/minus.

Advanced numbers, he's the only player in the country that can compete with Mt. Zion.
 
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Morant is higher than Zion for me at this point.
 
If I'm Dallas, I'm eyeing to see where the Orlando pick falls.

If it's in the 6th-9th range where, I'm looking to offer DSJ to hopefully nab Jarrett Culver and let Brunson be that low usage 3+D guard.
 
BonesJones said:
Morant is higher than Zion for me at this point.
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That's interesting.

No reason Ja shouldn't be a starter, but he has enough question marks that it would make it extremely difficult for me to pass up on the truly special combination of athleticism+skill that Zion brings.
 
If we buy in the 2nd round again my dark horse will be Bazely. He can play both forward position. He will our Simons of this year. The kid only problem will be his strength at this level. But again he won't expect to play his 1st year if we have the same team.
 
JDC said:
That's interesting.

No reason Ja shouldn't be a starter, but he has enough question marks that it would make it extremely difficult for me to pass up on the truly special combination of athleticism+skill that Zion brings.
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His question mark is his jumper. If he figures that out, he'll be a stud. Zion has more question marks IMO.

I say this with confidence: Ja Morant is the best player in the draft.
 
JDC said:
If I'm Dallas, I'm eyeing to see where the Orlando pick falls.

If it's in the 6th-9th range where, I'm looking to offer DSJ to hopefully nab Jarrett Culver and let Brunson be that low usage 3+D guard.
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Jarrett Culver at 6? Too high.
 
BonesJones said:
His question mark is his jumper. If he figures that out, he'll be a stud. Zion has more question marks IMO.

I say this with confidence: Ja Morant is the best player in the draft.
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That's not the only one.

- casual approach on both ends
- inconsistent decision maker
- lacks a middle/floater game
- not a great half court athlete when he doesn't have a clear lane or can load up off 2
- Strength: he's strong for his weight but he'll still be attacked on switches
- Frame: how much weight can he reasonably add?

I like him and he definitely has a high upside, but his floor is much lower than Zion's imo.

BonesJones said:
Jarrett Culver at 6? Too high.
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Maybe, but this draft sucks. And Culver to Dallas has a lot to do with team context where they already have a likely high level creator/scorer in Luka.

And I'm high on Culver overall. I'd take him over the pseudo star / "upside" guys like Barrett/Little/Reddish. Doesn't have primary scorer type upside, but fits in as that versatile 3rd option who plays smart on both ends.
 
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JDC said:
That's not the only one.

- casual approach on both ends
- inconsistent decision maker
- lacks a middle/floater game
- not a great half court athlete when he doesn't have a clear lane or can load up off 2
- Strength: he's strong for his weight but he'll still be attacked on switches
- Frame: how much weight can he reasonably add?

I like him and he definitely has a high upside, but his floor is much lower than Zion's imo.


Maybe, but this draft sucks. And Culver to Dallas has a lot to do with team context where they already have a likely high level creator/scorer in Luka.

And I'm high on Culver overall. I'd take him over the pseudo star / "upside" guys like Barrett/Little/Reddish. Doesn't have primary scorer type upside, but fits in as that versatile 3rd option who plays smart on both ends.
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Casual...?

Dude is constantly launching himself at the chest of bigs on offense, and beating defenses going 1 on 2. Defensively hes not the best but he shows some motor he has the tools to be great. Sounds like you made that one up.

Strength? He's a PG. Im not going to knock a PG because he might not be the best guy to switch onto bigger players. That's silly. And he'll add strength and has decent height (6'3) and long arms.

Inconsistent decision maker? Seriously? Dude gets almost 10 assists a game and over 20ppg while being guarded heavier than any prospsect in the nation. To question his decision making is a stretch.

No floater/mid-range game? He's shown flashes. He's shown as much floater and mid-range game as Dame did when he was coming out. Most of the time Morant is able to simply contort his way all the way to the rim/backboard. I'd rather have that than a mid-range shot.

Not a good halfcourt athlete? What? Dudes at least average (probably better) in terms of first step quickness and hes a good leaper off either foot, even if hes better off two. He's also very shifty with very good footwork, so he gets to his spots easily.

In the end, your talking about somebody who has elite:
- Passing
- Ball Handling
- Body Control
- Footwork
- Shiftiness
- Craftiness around the rim
- Open Court Athleticism

With the potential to be a good shooter as well. His form is smooth and solid fundamentally.

So how does he have a lower floor than Zion? He'll at least be a good starting PG, at best he'll be the best PG in the league. His his floor is higher than Zion and (IMO) his upside is more realistic.
 
BonesJones said:
Casual...?

Dude is constantly launching himself at the chest of bigs on offense, and beating defenses going 1 on 2. Defensively hes not the best but he shows some motor he has the tools to be great. Sounds like you made that one up.

Strength? He's a PG. Im not going to knock a PG because he might not be the best guy to switch onto bigger players. That's silly. And he'll add strength and has decent height (6'3) and long arms.

Inconsistent decision maker? Seriously? Dude gets almost 10 assists a game and over 20ppg while being guarded heavier than any prospsect in the nation. To question his decision making is a stretch.

No floater/mid-range game? He's shown flashes. He's shown as much floater and mid-range game as Dame did when he was coming out. Most of the time Morant is able to simply contort his way all the way to the rim/backboard. I'd rather have that than a mid-range shot.

Not a good halfcourt athlete? What? Dudes at least average (probably better) in terms of first step quickness and hes a good leaper off either foot, even if hes better off two. He's also very shifty with very good footwork, so he gets to his spots easily.

In the end, your talking about somebody who has elite:
- Passing
- Ball Handling
- Body Control
- Footwork
- Shiftiness
- Craftiness around the rim
- Open Court Athleticism

With the potential to be a good shooter as well. His form is smooth and solid fundamentally.

So how does he have a lower floor than Zion? He'll at least be a good starting PG, at best he'll be the best PG in the league. His his floor is higher than Zion and (IMO) his upside is more realistic.
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Agree to disagree.

I've watched him plenty and I'm pretty confident in my assessments of his game. Still very high on Ja for all the reasons you and I have already noted, just think we differ on the degree of his weaknesses and how they may affect him at the next level.
 
Rui Hachimura seems like everything the Blazers need. I'm guessing if he comes out he'll be a top 5ish pick. Wonder if the Blazers have the assets to move up and get him.

Edit: If he drops down to 8-10 that would be awesome. Doing some quick googling looks like he's projected in that range, and I think the Blazers should strongly consider figuring out how to get up there and add him.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Rui Hachimura seems like everything the Blazers need. I'm guessing if he comes out he'll be a top 5ish pick. Wonder if the Blazers have the assets to move up and get him.

Edit: If he drops down to 8-10 that would be awesome. Doing some quick googling looks like he's projected in that range, and I think the Blazers should strongly consider figuring out how to get up there and add him.
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I don't get the love for him. Physicaly he looks like he should be dominant. When I've seen him play, he seems to vanish & not impact the team as much as he should.
 
tester551 said:
I don't get the love for him. Physicaly he looks like he should be dominant. When I've seen him play, he seems to vanish & not impact the team as much as he should.
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I don't think he's going to be a superstar or anything, I just think his fit would be fantastic. A wing that could play both ends of the court well.
 
tester551 said:
I don't get the love for him. Physicaly he looks like he should be dominant. When I've seen him play, he seems to vanish & not impact the team as much as he should.
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Disappears...? What?

Hes getting 25.8pts per 36min.
 
hoopsjock said:
Why is Markus Howard not even considered an NBA prospect? Is it because he's under 6'0" tall? The guy can flat out score. 53 points tonight.
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Crazy how young he is. A college junior, and not even 20 yet.

I'm sure he'll play in the league, but I imagine he'll be a 4-year college guy. Wouldn't mind the Blazers using a 2020 2nd-round pick on him.
 
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