OT 2020 ROY--Ja or Zion?

[CupWizier]

If a player only played half the games, but in those games had vastly superior numbers to the "next guy", and took his team from being 7 games back all the way to the #1 seed, then yeah, I'd give him the MVP.

Here's a pretty good article showing games played by previous ROY's. Patrick Ewing won ROY playing in 50 games which is the fewest games by a rookie to win it. Zion will likely play a little over 30 games at most.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/spo...iid_played_enough_to_win_rookie_of_year_.html

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Here's a pretty good article showing games played by previous ROY's. Patrick Ewing won ROY playing in 50 games which is the fewest games by a rookie to win it. Zion will likely play a little over 30 games at most.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/spo...iid_played_enough_to_win_rookie_of_year_.html

OK.

My opinions are not beholden to history.

 

[CupWizier]

OK.

My opinions are not beholden to history.

OK but I wouldn't bet on your opinion as history pretty much spells it out.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

OK but I wouldn't bet on your opinion as history pretty much spells it out.

I'm well aware that what should happen and what will happen are often at odds.

 

[CupWizier]

I'm well aware that what should happen and what will happen are often at odds.

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Hypothetically speaking would you chose Lillard's rookie year over Zion's rookie year if he remains on the same pace and only plays 37 games to Lillards 82?

 

[hoopsjock]

If a player only played half the games, but in those games had vastly superior numbers to the "next guy", and took his team from being 7 games back all the way to the #1 seed, then yeah, I'd give him the MVP.

So in Zion's case their easy schedule only influences you predicting them to get the 8th seed not that Zion has played against weaker teams?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Hypothetically speaking would you chose Lillard's rookie year over Zion's rookie year if he remains on the same pace and only plays 37 games to Lillards 82?

Tough to say. Probably, but it's close.

 

[JDC]

Another great video by J. Kyle Mann on Ja....

 

[Wade Garrett]

Too bad Wenyen Gabriel isn't a rookie.
I'm certain he would get some votes from the S2 panel.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Too bad Wenyen Gabriel isn't a rookie.
I'm certain he would get some votes from the S2 panel.

MVP votes

 

[Chris Craig]

Ja should get it, but Zion will

 

[Hey]

The only thing Zion can do to win is drag his team to the playoffs over Morant and the Blazers. That feat, along with his outrageous numbers, should take home the trophy.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

What, you think the Suns or Kings are gonna pass 'em? Doubtful.

No. I’m saying Pelicans will finish higher than Grizzlies but not the 8th seed. Blazers will be 8 seed, then Pelicans. Grizzlies will be behind those 2 teams. Kings and Suns have nothing to do with it.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

No one said anything about Melo vs Lebron, so that seems kind irrelevant.

In 2003, LeBron (like Zion) was clearly the better player but it was hip to say Melo was better. It seems like the same thing now to say you’d rather have Ja which is ridiculous. IMHO

 

[hoopsjock]

In 2003, LeBron (like Zion) was clearly the better player but it was hip to say Melo was better. It seems like the same thing now to say you’d rather have Ja which is ridiculous. IMHO

Literally no one said that.

 

[SIeepwalker]

When was the last time the race for roy was #1 vs #2 pick ?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Literally no one said that.

I said Id rather have Ja... I said nothing about Melo though. Ja and Zion are very different players though. My biggest concerns with Zion will be health, because in one year at Duke and one in the NBA he’s already missed a bunch of games. He’s huge and a freak athlete no doubt about that.

 

[hoopsjock]

I said Id rather have Ja... I said nothing about Melo though. Ja and Zion are very different players though. My biggest concerns with Zion will be health, because in one year at Duke and one in the NBA he’s already missed a bunch of games. He’s huge and a freak athlete no doubt about that.

No, lots of people said that.

I was saying no one said Melo was going to be a better player than LeBron.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

No, lots of people said that.

I was saying no one said Melo was going to be a better player than LeBron.

Lots of people did. I remember very well. It was hip to say Melo was going to be better. There were people who thought LeBron was overhyped and Melo was the better player.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Lots of people did. I remember very well. It was hip to say Melo was going to be better. There were people who thought LeBron was overhyped and Melo was the better player.

I dont really care if its hip or not I was saying last year about this time that I thought Morant was going to be great. I really, really like his game.
I think Zions a tremendous and unique athlete, and if he avoids health issues he can be great too. I just think Ja is less of a risk.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

No. I’m saying Pelicans will finish higher than Grizzlies but not the 8th seed. Blazers will be 8 seed, then Pelicans. Grizzlies will be behind those 2 teams. Kings and Suns have nothing to do with it.

I understood what you were saying. I was subtly implying that the Blazers have virtually no shot at the 8 seed given their health situation.

A little too subtly, apparently.