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Draft was boring, when are we getting Thybulle or someone else to start at SF. I think we just need a lock down defender and facilitator at that position with the other 4 starters. Prime Batum would be nice but I’ll take Thybulle. Make it happen.
 
LayneStaley said:
Draft was boring, when are we getting Thybulle or someone else to start at SF. I think we just need a lock down defender and facilitator at that position with the other 4 starters. Prime Batum would be nice but I’ll take Thybulle. Make it happen.
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Nas would start but Thybulle would be his primary backup which would be awesome. Batum would be cool too.
 
Couldn’t find the answer on Larry Coon’s FAQ, with regards to cap holds and the MLE, is there an order of operation work around where you can use the full MLE if the holds are below the tax and you don’t go over with the MLE? Or is that one of those against the spirit of the rules things and can only use it after signing FA’s so would be left with TPMLE?
 
South East said:
Couldn’t find the answer on Larry Coon’s FAQ, with regards to cap holds and the MLE, is there an order of operation work around where you can use the full MLE if the holds are below the tax and you don’t go over with the MLE? Or is that one of those against the spirit of the rules things and can only use it after signing FA’s so would be left with TPMLE?
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The primary thing is staying below the tax apron, not just the tax, when using the full MLE. Using the normal MLE hard caps a team at the apron. We'd be able to use it as long as we do not go over that amount.
 


This is not my number one option but: Bledsoe for Green. Bledsoe is perfect for OKC, who can eat the salary but save some money and the roster spot. Green is a serviceable 4/5 and we get him for basically 4 million since we would have to eat Bledsoes 4m guaranteed anyways
 
I read that Batum is going to want 10 million instead of the chump change the Clippers signed him for...I'd sure as hell love to see him back...Joe Ingles is going to be interesting to see how he looks recovered.
 
B-Roy said:


This is not my number one option but: Bledsoe for Green. Bledsoe is perfect for OKC, who can eat the salary but save some money and the roster spot. Green is a serviceable 4/5 and we get him for basically 4 million since we would have to eat Bledsoes 4m guaranteed anyways
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I would send out Winslow and Keon + a 2nd round pick for Green. I still would think that an expiring $19m contract could still be valuable for us, next summer’s free agency class is pretty good. So I would rather just wait for a right trade for a $19m salary.

Or would keeping Bledsoe mean not having the full MLE?
 
Scalma said:
I’ve been asking for this guy for years now. Bring him home



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I seem to remember that his issue was foul trouble. Could never stay long on the floor because of it.

Edit: Guess he averaged 2.5 personal fouls per game. Zach Collins in his last season with us when healthy was at 3.3. So could be way worse haha
 
MickZagger said:
Defense is what we need
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Always. They also lack size that can spread the court. Hopefully they stay under the cap apron if they resign Nurk and Ant as expected and have the full MLE. I'd make a run at Otto Porter or Hartenstein.

However, I am not a big fan of Nurk at 15-20M and wouldn't be upset if they decided to go another direction with the monies earmarked for him.

STOMP
 
Big Stein wouldn't bother me at all. Great defense at the rim, can shoot it a bit, and isn't terrible on switch outs. Plus, wouldn't be terribly expensive and would be nice to have a 'home body'.
 
illmatic99 said:
sounds like an olshey special. bargain hunting the dumpster for former lottery picks. this hasn't worked for us in the past. it's why i want to shift our mindset towards vets who have won before (tucker/porter/batum/etc)
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speaking of available winners who aren't splashy underachieving former lotto picks, we're 100+ posts into this FA thread and not one mention of the UFA center from the world champs. I stated 3 years ago the last time Looney was an UFA that he'd be a great add. That time the W's signed him for 3 years at less then 15M total. I'd rather have him then Nurk and he could be had at a fraction of what JN is expected to make. Not a whole lot of scoring, but he is an efficient finisher around the rim. Great rebounder and can reasonably switch onto most any player. He's 26 years old and played in every single Warriors game last season.

Landing any two of Otto Porter Jr, Hartenstein and Looney would make me happy... hell, all three plz

STOMP
 
Considering GS' willingness to spend at historic levels, and incentive to keep the championship core together as long as they're on top, I have to think they'll match offers up to, and probably well beyond, $10M/yr for Looney.
 
If you look in the dictionary under the word centerwhotakesafewyearstodevelop, there is a picture of Hartenstein. Would be a great backup and fill-in starter when Bosnian Bell gets hurt.
 
I would see if I could find a way to trade Keon and draft compensation for Achiuwa and absorb Achiuwa in the NAW TPE. Achiuwa would fill the backup PF and third string C role.

I like Hartenstein as a cheap backup C target. There aren’t a whole lot of guys I’d give the full MLE to: Bamba, Jalen Smith, Ibaka, Batum, Portis, maybe Warren (only four games played in the last two seasons), Sexton (he’ll get more though).
 
Norman Dale said:
I wonder if the Blazers may be interested in TJ Warren. Not sure I'd give him the full MLE, but he could be someone we look at for our starting 3.
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Well Cromin appears into high risk/high reward scenarios. Warren would be another swing for the fences move, if and I stress "if" Warren came back close to his previous form and stayed healthy, then Blazers could easily be "in the mix"
 
Blazinaway said:
Well Cromin appears into high risk/high reward scenarios. Warren would be another swing for the fences move, if and I stress "if" Warren came back close to his previous form and stayed healthy, then Blazers could easily be "in the mix"
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Yeah I think I’d do it. I think it would be a two year deal or a 2+1. If we found a way to get Achiuwa from TOR and also added Hartenstein, we’re walking into next season with this team

Dame/Ant/Williams (2-way)
Ant/Hart/Sharpe
Nas/Warren/Sharpe/Winslow/Walker
Grant/Achiuwa/Watford/Brown III
Nurk/Hartenstein/Achiuwa
 
Back in 2002 I saw his dad in a Wal-Mart parking lot in Bend. Big Flo Hartenstein. I was really just passing through on a delivery, so fairly random odds. The question I have always asked myself is - did Flo Hartenstein see me?
 
So assuming both Ant and Nurk return, the focus of free agency is pretty much gonna be a backup center. My guess is we’ll see a trade involving Bledsoe before free agency kicks off though, so that center may come through a trade.

I also think Ingles will be back. So if we replace Bledsoe with a center, re-sign Ingles, and bring back Ant and Nurk, our roster will sit at 14 players. Considering Ingles probably won’t be ready at the beginning of the season, I’m guessing they will carry 15 players. So that leaves space for one more player assuming they don’t offer Elleby a contract and have Jabari as a two way.

So we’re looking at something like

G
Dame
Ant
Hart
Sharpe
Keon
Louzada
Williams (2W)

F
Grant
Nas
Ingles
Winslow
Watford
Brown
Walker (2W)

C
Nurk

+ backup center and whatever else. Seems a little too straight forward tbh. I think Cronin will get a little more creative/aggressive.
 
I don't think Ingles is being signed this off-season. IIRC, as long as Ingles doesn't sign somewhere else, we can retain his bird rights all the way up until the trade deadline. At which point we can sign and trade him at an appropriate salary to facilitate a possible trade (almost like punting Bledsoe's salary spot all the way to the deadline). He won't be ready until Jan/Feb to play anyways so I don't quite see what the point is of bringing him back immediately just to rehab.
 
B-Roy said:
I don't think Ingles is being signed this off-season. IIRC, as long as Ingles doesn't sign somewhere else, we can retain his bird rights all the way up until the trade deadline. At which point we can sign and trade him at an appropriate salary to facilitate a possible trade (almost like punting Bledsoe's salary spot all the way to the deadline). He won't be ready until Jan/Feb to play anyways so I don't quite see what the point is of bringing him back immediately just to rehab.
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no one actually knows when Ingles will be ready, but he started running earlier this month.
 
B-Roy said:
I don't think Ingles is being signed this off-season. IIRC, as long as Ingles doesn't sign somewhere else, we can retain his bird rights all the way up until the trade deadline. At which point we can sign and trade him at an appropriate salary to facilitate a possible trade (almost like punting Bledsoe's salary spot all the way to the deadline). He won't be ready until Jan/Feb to play anyways so I don't quite see what the point is of bringing him back immediately just to rehab.
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To S/T at the deadline, he'd have to agree to go to the team we'd like to deal him to. Also, intending to use him in a S/T would exclude using him in a trade to any taxpaying teams. If he signs in the offseason, we can deal him to any team, regardless of his interest or their tax status, so bringing him back immediately maximizes our options.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
To S/T at the deadline, he'd have to agree to go to the team we'd like to deal him to. Also, intending to use him in a S/T would exclude using him in a trade to any taxpaying teams. If he signs in the offseason, we can deal him to any team, regardless of his interest or their tax status, so bringing him back immediately maximizes our options.
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But signing him costs millions in his salary plus many more in tax. We don't know the amount he would need to be signed for or if he even needs to be signed at all for a trade.

I agree it may have strategic advantages, I don't believe there is any chance Jody or Bert approve that though.
 
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