Game Thread 2023-24 Game #18 - BLAZERS @ CAVS - NOVEMBER 30, 2023 - THURSDAY - 4:00 PM PST - ROOT

[Chris Craig]

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STANDINGS

BLAZERS 5-12 CAVS 9-8

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STARTERS


Malcolm Brogdon Shaedon Sharpe

Toumani Camara Jerami Grant

DeAndre Ayton



Darius Garland Donovan Mitchell

Max Strus Evan Mobley

Jarret Allen

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WHEN: NOVEMBER 30, 2023 - THURSDAY - 4:00 PM PST

WHERE: ROCKET MORTGAGE FIELDHOUSE, CLEVELAND OH



TV BROADCAST


RADIO BROADCAST


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BENCH


Scoot Henderson Matisse Thybulle

Jabari Walker Kris Murray

Skylar Mays Moses Brown

Rayan Rupert

Duop Reath* Justin Minaya*

Ibou Badji*

Robert Williams° Anfernee Simons°

Ish Wainright°

*2 Way Player
°Injured Player



Isaac Okoro Damian Jones

Caris LeVert Georges Niang

Sam Merrill Tristan Thompson

Isaiah Mobley* Emoni Bates*

Craig Porter Jr*

Dean Wade° Ricky Rubio°

Ty Jerome°

*2 Way Player
°Injured Player

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COACH


Chauncey Billups


JB Bickerstaff

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INJURIES

BLAZERS

Anfernee Simons - Thumb - Out
Robert Williams - Knee - Out
Ish Wainright - Knee - Out

CAVS

Dean Wade - Ankle - Out
Ty Jerome - Ankle - Out
Ricky Rubio - MH - NWT

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UPCOMING SCHEDULE

BLAZERS @ JAZZ 12/2 6:30 PM

BLAZERS @ GSW 12/6 7:00 PM

BLAZERS vs DAL 12/8 7:00 PM

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GAME NOTES
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• The Cavaliers defeated the Blazers 105 - 95 on 11/15 in Portland
• Chauncey Billups is 0-5 vs the Cavaliers and coach JB Bickerstaff
• Moses Brown played for the Cavaliers during the 2021-22 season

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[Chris Craig]

Another W?

 

[Whyachi]

Another W?

Jerami was on a heater last game. Cavs have no answer for the Wrath of Grant.

 

[BankTeller]

Until after the deadline, I’m going to be rooting for W’s. Hoping for another big Grant game regardless of the end result. Grant looks like someone who could really help the Cavs.

 

[KingSpeed]

Chris- we’re 5-12, not 4-13

 

[THE HCP]

Chris nice work. I won’t take the time to critique you…..sigh

 

[stampedehero]

Keep the fingers crossed. Those loss column numbers have to stay right where they are.

 

[BlazerBeav]

This should be more entertaining than the previous matchup in Portland at the least.

 

[TBpup]

Tough to score on Mobley and Allen. They need to have a lot of player movement and ball movement (Steve 'Snapper' Jones) to get those two out of position.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Put a few bucks on the Blazers +12

So Blazers lose by 11 points or less, or actually win - and I win the bet. Blazers lose by 13 or more and I lose.

Seems like we've played okay lately and that's just too big of a spread.

Wouldn't be shocked we get blown out and I lose though, so guess we'll see.

 

[BassPlaya]

Until after the deadline, I’m going to be rooting for W’s. Hoping for another big Grant game regardless of the end result. Grant looks like someone who could really help the Cavs.

Do you think Grant is earning his contract currently?

 

[blazerfan11]

The game ending 1-2-3 of Brogdon, Thybulle, and Sharpe makes a lot more sense than having Scoot stand in the corner.
There are no small guards of those three players.

 

[BankTeller]

Do you think Grant is earning his contract currently?

I would say yes he is. With Dame gone, the things I suspected of him all pretty much came to be true. Grant is a great 3rd scorer, not a primary scorer. I was especially annoyed with him handling the ball so much in the beginning of the season, but I’m seeing a lot more catch and shoot 3’s, which he’s shown to be good at. He also is great at getting his shot off against smaller guys. His post fadeaways remind me of Shaun Livingston’s (against the Blazers, I felt like he hit a couple of those on one of our guards every quarter).

I actually think that playing on a competitive team with better players, he could average closer to 50% fg than the 45% he’s averaging right now, although on maybe 20ppg as opposed to 23.5ppg. His fg% has been climbing though, so maybe he gets around that point without being on a playoff roster. Being that efficient of a scorer, alone, is a tough job on a non-competitive team.

Tobias Harris, for comparison, is making over $39m this year, based on a 27 game sample size in ‘19. Based on a decent edge in rpg and playmaking stats, there might be a debate Harris is a slightly better overall player. To me though, there is no debate, Grant is the better player. I think that Grant is significantly better at getting to the line and stopping the clock, and he is a noticeably better shooter. The difference between Grant and Harris is salary this year is what, $12m?

Wiggins is going to have a PO for $30.3m in ‘26-‘27, and Grant will be making $34.2m. Jaylen Brown will be making $57.7m that year. Ingram’s contract is over in ‘24-‘25 at $36m, meaning his ‘26-‘27 number is going to be well over $40m, probably starting around $42-44m.

I’d argue he is already living up to his contract based on some of the numbers above, and he’ll likely outplay it, given the salaries some of the guys coming up are going to get. I don’t think Brown is $23m+ better than Grant, I don’t think Ingram is going to be $10m better than Ingram in a few years, and I don’t think Grant is only $3m better than Wiggins this year.

 

[blazerfan11]

Kevin Knox photo for Brogdon intro at Cleveland. WTF.

 

[Labinot41]

Go Blazers

 

[B-Roy]

STOP REPLAYING DURING LIVE ACTION PLEASE FFS

 

[blazerfan11]

WHY don't the Blazers use Ayton more???

 

[Whyachi]

Cavs radio ragging on Ayton afterlast matchup. "that's a lotta money for a 6/6 guy"

 

[blazerfan11]

Grant is a disaster in this game. Ayton looks good.

What do the Blazers do?

Let Grant take over.

 

[B-Roy]

Holy shit Jerami Grant masterclass on how to suck ass on both ends. What the fuck?

 

[blazerfan11]

Cavs radio ragging on Ayton afterlast matchup. "that's a lotta money for a 6/6 guy"

Could be a 25/12 guy if Chauncey would get him the ball.

 

[Whyachi]

STOP REPLAYING DURING LIVE ACTION PLEASE FFS

No.... the more annoying Blazer TV is,
the more Root uses it

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Grant needs to stop trying to do too much; he always seems to revert to that.

 

[Whyachi]

sounds like a bunch of easy Cavs baskets, let's get that scrappy D going

 

[B-Roy]

Grant needs to stop trying to do too much; he always seems to revert to that.

It'd be fine if he wasn't also rolling out the red carpet on defense.

 

[blazerfan11]

What the hell. If Scoot were playing like Grant, Billups would pull his ass out of the game.

 

[OneSport3]

Grant sleepwalking out there. Can’t be bothered to play any defense and throwing the ball away on offense.

 

[Whyachi]

Grant needs to stop trying to do too much; he always seems to revert to that.

we're just gonna let Jerami do his thang. Blazers already proved they can't shoot sometimes

 

[Whyachi]

Mitchell hit a prayer

 

[blazerfan11]

Beautiful pass by Camara.