Game Thread 2023-24 Game #25 - BLAZERS VS WARRIORS - DECEMBER 17, 2023 - SUNDAY - 6:00 PM PST - ROOT

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Chris Paul's only baskets were those 2 middies in crunch time. Like a good neighbor my ass !! That's just mean to wait until it's dagger time.
 
Tince said:
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Jerami had both feet clearly out of bounds while touching the ball. But you gotta like the all out effort to blame the refs.
BOOOOOOOO! get some glasses you crooked officials. Warriors cheat
 
Whyachi said:
Jerami had both feet clearly out of bounds while touching the ball. But you gotta like the all out effort to blame the refs.
BOOOOOOOO! get some glasses you crooked officials. Warriors cheat
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Wanting the refs to be able to review calls in the last two minutes is blaming the refs?
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd rather have seen a trade that sent Ayton somewhere else....like Indiana for Myles Turner. They are the team that gave Ayton that offer sheet

and LOL at the notion that taking on Ayton was the price of getting Camara
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Since we don't know what other trades were on the table, humor me and let me know which combo you'd rather have right now:

Nurk/Little or Ayton/Camara
 
Tince said:
I never knew you were such a big fan of Billups' creativity drawing up plays at the end of games. Remind me which was your favorite?
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the OKC lining up for an inbound and foul, with zero Blazers back to guard the rim. It was during the 2022 tank. I honestly think Billups forgot which basket his team was supposed to defend.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd rather have seen a trade that sent Ayton somewhere else....like Indiana for Myles Turner. They are the team that gave Ayton that offer sheet

and LOL at the notion that taking on Ayton was the price of getting Camara
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When the trade happened no, Ayton was not the price of getting Camara. Now though....yes because Ayton is a bust.
 
Tince said:
I recall you being critical of Brogdon for not passing the ball early in the season when Ant was hurt and Brogdon was playing PG. Am I wrong?
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What does that have to do with me responding to Chris saying he sucks? Did I say he sucks? Actually I think I said the opppsite and you and I debated that.
 
Natebishop3 said:
What does that have to do with me responding to Chris saying he sucks? Did I say he sucks? Actually I think I said the opppsite and you and I debated that.
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I thought tonight you were saying he needs to be at PG where he can be effective, but in my memory, when Brogdon was playing PG, you weren't thrilled with how he played PG. Am I wrong?
 
I don’t understand people who are so upset about Ayton. We didn’t draft him first overall. We got him from the suns for two scrubs and Nurk. It was a low risk, high reward trade. Who cares if he’s inconsistent and mediocre? We have him for a few more seasons and if we let him walk we aren’t out anything. We got Camara out of the trade. Clearly Schmitz wanted him. People acting like we stumbled into Toumani.
 
Tince said:
Since we don't know what other trades were on the table, humor me and let me know which combo you'd rather have right now:

Nurk/Little or Ayton/Camara
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what difference does that make?

I gave an opinion of Ayton as a player...that he's overrated and overpaid. That had nothing to do with Camara
 
Tince said:
I thought tonight you were saying he needs to be at PG where he can be effective, but in my memory, when Brogdon was playing PG, you weren't thrilled with how he played PG. Am I wrong?
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Again, what does that have to do with whether he sucks? I can hate iso ball and still agree that someone doesn’t suck, no? I have been frustrated with Simons but I don’t think he sucks.
 
One thing I'm going to be eyeing the next few games is Shaedon.

He's so laid back that it's hard to get a read on him, but I thought I detected an expression on his face in the middle of the fourth quarter that I've seen before when players are disgusted or feel they're being treated dismissively.

He's been so visibly invisible the last couple of games, and three potentialities come to mind.

1. Chauncey isn't involving him in the offense.

2. Shaedon's not hunting shots because he feels he's not on the level of guys like Ant and Jeremi and doesn't want to upset the apple cart.

3. He's been made to feel like a second-class citizen by one of the team's top dogs and his lack of initiative on the offensive end it a show of rebellion or displeasure with how he's being treated.

I'd love to know how these guys personality's mesh and what it's like in the locker room.
 
Tince said:
In listening to the press conference it sounds like Billups was planning on calling timeout, but did communicate that with his team, so when Ayton threw the quick outlet, that prevented us from advancing the ball.

I don't love Billups not having everyone on the same page.
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I was sitting right across from the Warriors bench (Blazers season ticket holder person handed me upgraded tickets as I was heading towards the escalator to go sit with my fellow not rich people - nice suprise!) and Brogdon clearly looked at Ayton before the missed Curry free throw and signaled timeout - so I was shocked when we didn't call it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don’t understand people who are so upset about Ayton. We didn’t draft him first overall. We got him from the suns for two scrubs and Nurk. It was a low risk, high reward trade. Who cares if he’s inconsistent and mediocre? We have him for a few more seasons and if we let him walk we aren’t out anything. We got Camara out of the trade. Clearly Schmitz wanted him. People acting like we stumbled into Toumani.
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Ayton gives us nothing. He gets a few rebounds but it's not good enough to offset his tendency to stand around and do nothing all other times. Doesn't even attack the basket. What kind of a big man is he?
 
wizenheimer said:
what difference does that make?

I gave an opinion of Ayton as a player...that he's overrated and overpaid. That had nothing to do with Camara
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Overrated by whom? The Suns basically begged us to take him.
 
Chris Craig said:
Ayton gives us nothing. He gets a few rebounds but it's not good enough to offset his tendency to stand around and do nothing all other times. Doesn't even attack the basket. What kind of a big man is he?
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Nothing? Ok.
 
PCmor7 said:
One thing I'm going to be eyeing the next few games is Shaedon.

He's so laid back that it's hard to get a read on him, but I thought I detected an expression on his face in the middle of the fourth quarter that I've seen before when players are disgusted or feel they're being treated dismissively.

He's been so visibly invisible the last couple of games, and three potentialities come to mind.

1. Chauncey isn't involving him in the offense.

2. Shaedon's not hunting shots because he feels he's not on the level of guys like Ant and Jeremi and doesn't want to upset the apple cart.

3. He's been made to feel like a second-class citizen by one of the team's top dogs and his lack of initiative on the offensive end it a show of rebellion or displeasure with how he's being treated.

I'd love to know how these guys personality's mesh and what it's like in the locker room.
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I'm sure he's gone as soon as he gets the chance.
 
Tince said:
Wanting the refs to be able to review calls in the last two minutes is blaming the refs?
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I'm not blaming refs, i'm just agreeing with Blazers PR blaming the refs. President Adam Silver loves his Warriors. This game was a scam !! (in all seriousness, the ref didn't have to review it because Grant was slapping at the ball with his feet by the camera guy. It was a no dought outta bounds decision.)
 
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