Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #79 - BLAZERS VS PELICANS - APRIL 9, 2024 - TUESDAY - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT

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Trey Murphy sailing slammer and-1. Blazers big 10 point lead is gone, Coach Billups calls timeout
 
good shot Banton, kept the Blazers in single digits
 
PCmor7 said:
Low-key great 1H for Scoot.

And, yes, I know 12/10 doesn't seem like low-key.

It was how comfortable and in command he looked out there. He didn't play like his hair was on fire.

If he can master playing with this kind of poise and not get rushed on the court over the next year and a half and then incorporates his athletic advantages into his game, he's going to be special.
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Been saying it from day 1 he just needs playing time without concern of being yanked. Game will eventually slow down. His skills are above average except shooting but form is there. Really felt like Billups needed to let Scoot have the keys from day one and live with whatever happened.
 
Scoots having as good of a game as you can reasonably hope for but even still I don’t see any star potential.

There’s a player in there somewhere, but the expectation of a star is too lofty imo…
 
B-Roy said:
Scoots having as good of a game as you can reasonably hope for but even still I don’t see any star potential.

There’s a player in there somewhere, but the expectation of a star is too lofty imo…
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I think he’s shown enough that I’m convinced he has star potential. Explosive downhill, good court vision, once game slows down he’ll be electric
 
Blazers weave-o-matic system is glitching. Zion power dunk forces a Billups timeout.
 
Portland about 5 straight turnovers, i quit keeping track in January
 
Scoot's 4Q has been a mess. After 3 really good quarters (2 exceptional), he's looked flustered badly in the fourth.
 
Trading for Larry Nance changed the destiny of Portland. The Blazers can't ever make the playoffs ever again, because Chicago will steal Cronin's draft pick.
 
PCmor7 said:
Scoot's 4Q has been a mess. After 3 really good quarters (2 exceptional), he's looked flustered badly in the fourth.
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pels finally realized we have one guy they need to guard in DA, and are forcing scoot to shoot.
 
PCmor7 said:
Scoot's 4Q has been a mess. After 3 really good quarters (2 exceptional), he's looked flustered badly in the fourth.
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The whole team kind of seems that way. Play really well for stretches and then all of a sudden can't figure out how to run an offense at all.
 
Whyachi said:
Trading for Larry Nance changed the destiny of Portland. The Blazers can't ever make the playoffs ever again, because Chicago will steal Cronin's draft pick.
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Hawkins rookie messed up the spread. He'll be getting calls from the pit boss
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
The whole team kind of seems that way. Play really well for stretches and then all of a sudden can't figure out how to run an offense at all.
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Maybe, but it's magnified with Scoot. First, because he's the future of the franchise. Second, because his highs and lows vary to a much greater degree (and he's had more lows than highs). Third, for 2.5 quarters he did a great job just letting the game come to him and was rewarded for doing so, then he seemed to go into this mode where he wanted to try to win it all himself on every possession, lost his cool, started rushing his shots and throwing bad passes and did a complete 180 in the course of a few minutes.

That might now be fair, but it's what happened.
 
silver lining is Blazers clinched at least 5th in lottery with tonight's result

the Spurs won and are only 1 game ahead of Portland for 4th. Too bad the Blazers had to beat Charlotte. If they would have lost, there'd be a 3 way tie right now for 3rd in the lottery. Can't have a half-assed tank when the stakes are that high
 
illmatic99 said:
pels finally realized we have one guy they need to guard in DA, and are forcing scoot to shoot.
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Scoot wasn't ever being forced to shoot, especially with them playing mostly a lazy zone. Scoot more or less gave into his baseline, which is trying to make highlights instead of just relaxing and making good plays. He's got plenty of years to make the highlights. Right now, he just has to understand how to play basketball.
 
If people can't see Scoot's all-star potential because of his passing, his athleticism and his attitude then I don't know what to tell you. Scoot needs to improve his left hand and overall finishing... I honestly think that's all Scoot should concern himself with besides just getting more reps. The crazy amount of turnovers are going to go away with experience, his defense has all nba potential with more experience, his shot and willingness to shoot are what is needed to set him up as a facilitator.

I honestly think Scoot will be a guy who leads the league in assists year in and year out, I think he'll average around 20ppg to set up the passing and his defense will be outstanding. I don't think he gets there next season but we'll see him getting closer to it. We need scorers like I think Shaedon can be. Our wings role players are promising with Tou, Kris, Rayan (who has a real upside) and Bari. I think Deandre can be dominant. I would love for us to get Sarr in the draft to play next to DA.

What we need most is to clear the runway for Scoot, Shaedon, Deandre and whoever else we bring in by sending Ant and Jerami elsewhere for some return value that fits. Fit isn't just important to be a winning team but it's also important when trying to develop a young team... I don't think either of those two fits short or long term.
 
PCmor7 said:
Maybe, but it's magnified with Scoot. First, because he's the future of the franchise. Second, because his highs and lows vary to a much greater degree (and he's had more lows than highs). Third, for 2.5 quarters he did a great job just letting the game come to him and was rewarded for doing so, then he seemed to go into this mode where he wanted to try to win it all himself on every possession, lost his cool, started rushing his shots and throwing bad passes and did a complete 180 in the course of a few minutes.

That might now be fair, but it's what happened.
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the Pelicans adjusted. They mobbed DA and began anticipating Scoot's passes. Henderson's jumper decided to stay in the locker room. He missed his last 7 shots and tossed 4 balls to the wrong team. I hate it when coaches use winning strategies, especially against rookies.
 
blazerkor said:
If people can't see Scoot's all-star potential because of his passing, his athleticism and his attitude then I don't know what to tell you. Scoot needs to improve his left hand and overall finishing... I honestly think that's all Scoot should concern himself with besides just getting more reps. The crazy amount of turnovers are going to go away with experience, his defense has all nba potential with more experience, his shot and willingness to shoot are what is needed to set him up as a facilitator.

I honestly think Scoot will be a guy who leads the league in assists year in and year out, I think he'll average around 20ppg to set up the passing and his defense will be outstanding. I don't think he gets there next season but we'll see him getting closer to it. We need scorers like I think Shaedon can be. Our wings role players are promising with Tou, Kris, Rayan (who has a real upside) and Bari. I think Deandre can be dominant. I would love for us to get Sarr in the draft to play next to DA.

What we need most is to clear the runway for Scoot, Shaedon, Deandre and whoever else we bring in by sending Ant and Jerami elsewhere for some return value that fits. Fit isn't just important to be a winning team but it's also important when trying to develop a young team... I don't think either of those two fits short or long term.
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We need to find a shooter like Brandon Miller to pair with Scoot.
 
PCmor7 said:
Scoot wasn't ever being forced to shoot, especially with them playing mostly a lazy zone. Scoot more or less gave into his baseline, which is trying to make highlights instead of just relaxing and making good plays. He's got plenty of years to make the highlights. Right now, he just has to understand how to play basketball.
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He's not being forced to shoot, but the Pelicans were playing him as a scorer and he couldn't do anything. That's the limiting factor for Scoot. All the good things he does aren't going to translate into the consistency needed to achieve stardom unless he's able to put pressure on the defense as a scorer. That was his evaluation as a prospect - that he'd be able to provide constant rim pressure which would open up his passing game, and then if he could ever figure out his shot he'd be a multidimensional offensive centerpiece. Drive and kick should be his bread and butter but right now he's only good at drive and turnover or drive and airballs.

If we're looking at his play so far, I'm skeptical about his tools and foundation. His athleticism is.....above average for an NBA player at best? His finishing is beyond awful. His handle needs a ton of work. His shot is as advertised. It's hard for me to see him making that leap into true max player status - which is what I would consider to be a star. And even if it happens, I'd wager it happens much later in his career. Certainly much later than most would have predicted before the season. Comparing him to someone like even Shaedon is drastic, because the tools are so obviously there with Shaedon in a way that they aren't with Scoot.

I think there's a lot of good in there. I think a realistic ceiling is a high level game manager, maybe near all-star type player. A really good piece on a contending team. But I just have trouble seeing max contract star level player. And that makes the future look not so optimistic when before this season people were pegging Scoot as having franchise level potential.
 
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