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1 Eye Jack said:
Grants free agency will be key factor in direction franchise is headed. If he signs right away then he probably believes Dame is staying. If he signs somewhere else then he likely thinks Dame is leaving ( I think Blazers likely match any offer unless it’s ridiculous). At least that’s my theory

Is there any reason a sign and trade him would make sense for both Grant and Blazers?
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I swear this is deja vu from two years ago with Norman Powell and his free agency.
 
illmatic99 said:
Rich Paul is one of the best agents in the game whether most pople realize or not.
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He has normally got many great deals for his clients.

I'd say with Ben Simmons he screwed up that situation big time though, overplayed his hand, it totally backfired. Yeah maybe Ben had lots of issues and confidence problems too - but your agent should be helping you minimize those weaknesses and maximize your strengths, not get you in a terrible situation you regress.

All he had to do was the Harden in Houston or Kawhi in San Antonio thing where you show up at half speed, walk through the motions, and complain about insignificant nagging soreness to sit out.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Blazers have to pay as much as Sacramento or Golden State if not more. So yeah its probably $30+ million per year.

If its a 3 year deal I'm fine with it - next year salaries have to be close to matching, then following year yeah maybe something goes sideways and there is risk but if so we just wait a few months until the last year and its an expiring contract we can move to rebuild. Still would have a year before Scoot or other new rookies extensions kick in to add younger talent if we need to retool or rebuild at that time.

I do wonder if Cam Johnson would be a better target than Draymond though. Draymond has the name and history of higher performances. Cam might contribute more on the court going forward, is supposedly a friend of Dame he is high with, and has the chance to contribute with the later Scoot/Sharpe timeline.
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Third year an option?

Yeah, I'd probably rather have Cam.
 
inconceivable said:
“Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.” - Joe Cronin
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Hey, when that tree comes down it comes down though.
 
inconceivable said:
“Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.” - Joe Cronin
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Okay….. but how many hours to chop down the other trees and then level the land and then set the foundation and then frame and then do all the other shit to build a finished house?
 
blazedanugz said:
I might be wrong but..

say we somehow salary dump nurkics contract in a trade
Don’t extend any qualifying offers.

wouldn’t we have quite a bit of cap space?

couldn’t we sign someone then sign grant to go over the cap with his bird rights?
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Portland has 113M in guaranteed salary. If you add in the rookies, Scoot-Murray-Rupert, the Blazers would be at 127-128M with 12 players. Subtract Knox, and they are at 124-125 with 11 players. Their 3 primary free agents are Grant, Thybulle, Eubanks.

at this point, it's worth noting the tax line is around 162M and the Apron is around 169M. If the Blazers want to use their full-MLE, they can not, for any reason, go over that 169M apron. So effectively, cap-holds are irrelevant. What counts is committed salary

now, say Grant signs a deal with the first year at 27M. Portland is now around 151-152M in salary. Say Thybulle at 5M and Eubanks at 3M. Blazers are at 159-160M with 14 players. Only 9-10M below the apron. So it would be a challenge to use the full-MLE instead of the tax-MLE

Obviously that could change quite a bit if the Blazers sent out more salary in trades than they brought back. But I'm not sure Portland is in any position to be salary-dumping players

at this point, without some really significant trades, I can't see Portland in a position to use their full-MLE. No chance at cap-space. Keep in mind that the Blazers still have an 8.3M TPE too. If they simply use the tax-MLE, they keep alive the option of using that TPE
 
Hoopguru said:
Anyone that takes 6 hours to chop a tree down is concerning.
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Depends on the effin' tree.

We had taken down a big leaning pine too close to the house this winter, it was also above the power lines. The tree guys had to land this monster between the house, a shed and avoid any of the utility lines. It was a ballet of danger and they nailed it. Took them about a whole day to get to that...
 
So the plan is to pay a 33 year old malcontent with an anger problem 100 mil? That leash he has with NBA refs playing for GS is gonna be shortened a lot in Portland. This is gonna be like having Sheed without the skill. I would expect an ejection record is set.
 
LayneStaley said:
So the plan is to pay a 33 year old malcontent with an anger problem 100 mil? That leash he has with NBA refs playing for GS is gonna be shortened a lot in Portland. This is gonna be like having Sheed without the skill. I would expect an ejection record is set.
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There's a difference between a Blazers' management plan and Dame's statement that re-signing Grant and signing Green would be a perfect situation for him. A. Green is most likely going to re-signed by the Warriors, B. the Blazers don't have cap space to sign him, and C. the Warriors are pretty unlikely to cooperate in a sign-and-trade deal to facilitate Green moving to the Blazers. Doesn't sound like much of a plan to me. I swear the logical inconsistency of this place at times is incredible. One minute people are claiming the Blazers are intentionally lying to Dame and doing the exact opposite of bringing veteran talent in, and in the next they're complaining that Cronin is caving to Dame's demands. Crazy.
 
LayneStaley said:
So the plan is to pay a 33 year old malcontent with an anger problem 100 mil? That leash he has with NBA refs playing for GS is gonna be shortened a lot in Portland. This is gonna be like having Sheed without the skill. I would expect an ejection record is set.
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Yeah, I would tend to agree. He has never been a good 3pt shooter, is he still an elite defender? I don't know the answer.
His rebounding is good but not great, but he does offer some intangibles, but will he for another team? We really just need an elite rebounder at forward to play next to Grant
 
I can't understand why Harrison Barnes isn't being talked about more as a keep-Dame-happy target. Is it because Sacramento is a lock to retain him? Or is it because he's not a "sexy" name?

Maybe this might give us more of a chance to land him:
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Talking about Draymond is a waste of breath. We can't afford him and he wouldn't consider us. Cronin knows this, so even mentioning him is just disingenuous.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah, I would tend to agree. He has never been a good 3pt shooter, is he still an elite defender? I don't know the answer.
His rebounding is good but not great, but he does offer some intangibles, but will he for another team? We really just need an elite rebounder at forward to play next to Grant
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The answer is Evan Mobley
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Grants free agency will be key factor in direction franchise is headed. If he signs right away then he probably believes Dame is staying. If he signs somewhere else then he likely thinks Dame is leaving ( I think Blazers likely match any offer unless it’s ridiculous). At least that’s my theory

Is there any reason a sign and trade him would make sense for both Grant and Blazers?
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If Dame is leaving and we can get any compensation for Jerami that's worth taking on the return salaries then we would definitely want to sign and trade Jerami. Hopefully get some contracts that expire at the end of the upcoming season or even the season after and some draft compensation.

I think if Dame is staying we will match any offer Jerami might be getting even if it is ridiculous, that's assuming that Jerami brings the offer to us... he could just sign elsewhere since he's not restricted.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Eubanks earned himself a decent/fair contract.
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I know Christian Wood does not meet the criteria we have discussed. But damn he did put up some nice numbers last year. Especially in January-February. Quite a few double-digit rebound nights. How bad of a defender is he?
 
illmatic99 said:
We would also need to pay him more than he's actually worth. Like 3 yrs 100 or higher. And send Ant and/or Nurk + Nas to a third team.

Does a roster of Dame/Sharpe/Grant/Dray/Nurk even get to the playoffs?
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Even if we manage to dump all 3 for nothing, we still won't be able to offer him 3/100.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I know Christian Wood does not meet the criteria we have discussed. But damn he did put up some nice numbers last year. Especially in January-February. Quite a few double-digit rebound nights. How bad of a defender is he?
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He gives me Hassan Whiteside vibes
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Isn't he more of a stretch 4?
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I was talking about his potential to affect winning. I had high hopes about Hassan. I also wanted Christian Wood 2 years ago when he first joined the Rockets and they played us early in the season and killed us. But he hasn't made teams winners. Idk, maybe he'll work here. He's tall, something we need. .
 
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