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Gronk_Brady said:
Not with Scoot and Sharpe and haul of picks from Dame. Will be quick turnaround
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get a grip....What haul of picks? Miami doesn't have any picks till 2028. Brooklyn has 1 pick before 2027. Blazers might get some picks but they will be 4-7 years out. OKC and Utah won't be trading picks for Dame. There will not be any quick turnaround for Portland after trading Dame
 
Such a weird draft for the Blazers. If it was done in a vacuum, assuming none of the three are traded, you'd have to be thrilled with what the Blazers got. All three were value at where they were picked. One guy has superstar potential in a league where you need that to has a chance to win it all. One can really shoot it. Two have outstanding positional size. All three look like good to plus defender upside.

However, with the composition of the roster and all the Dame distractions, it also couldn't have turned out worse in some ways. Rupert's several years away. Our superstar draft pick plays the same position as our superstar veteran. Murray is good and has a decent chance to get in the rotation quickly, but he's also at a position where there's a log jam -- he's more a 3 than a 4, just like Grant and Reddish, and then you have Sharpe and Thybulle also getting minutes there.

EDIT: And I don't think the deals were there to be made that would have gotten us anything near the value for the third pick. You don't give up a potential superstar talent for just a good or very good vet, especially if you're being asked to throw in extras.

There still are ways to make this work and placate Dame. Maybe Murray and Rupert are moved. Ant almost has to be moved to balance the roster now, because now he's at a spot where he's got two guys with higher upside and he still can bring solid return in a trade. Still looking for Nurk to be moved. There are enough guys on the roster than play 2 and 3 now that several of them could be filler in trades. We have the MLE but I think now more than ever we have to re-sign Grant, and that's going to be an overpay.

There's still time to salvage it, but I think after tonight the window we have to slide it through just got trickier, unless the Blazers just say the heck with it we're rebuilding around all the young guys, and I don't think that's the way to go, either ... that works better if you have a couple of good vets to show guys like Scoot the intricacies. Not sure going all young gets this organization anywhere in the long run.
 
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That’s why Dame to Bos makes sense. Dame/Tatum/Porzingis is much better for them and Scoot/Sharpe/Brown fits the timeline for us. Too bad dame supposedly hates Bos
 
wizenheimer said:
get a grip....What haul of picks? Miami doesn't have any picks till 2028. Brooklyn has 1 pick before 2027. Blazers might get some picks but they will be 4-7 years out. OKC and Utah won't be trading picks for Dame. There will not be any quick turnaround for Portland after trading Dame
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Brooklyn has 7 tradeable first round picks (4 from the Suns, 1 from the Sixers, 1 from the Mavs and 1 of their own).
 
Irish Trader said:
Well this draft did not solve any of our needs. Grade C on player talent and a D for dumb for front office. Dallas made moves why can’t we.
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What? There were no moves, and we're not in a win now position. This was perfect...A fun team to watch while they continue to build. This solved everything. Could not be more excited for the future. NBA small market team building is all about luck, timing, and the draft. They had the timing with Oden, Aldridge and Roy but not the luck. The timing and poor decisions made the Dame era fail. We are on track for both luck and timing.
 
blazerkor said:
Brooklyn has 7 tradeable first round picks (4 from the Suns, 1 from the Sixers, 1 from the Mavs and 1 of their own).
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I know what they have, but other than the 2025 Phoenix pick, the rest are 4-7 years out. And in case you didn't notice, I was responding to somebody saying the Blazers could make a quick turnaround from the "haul of picks" for Dame. How the fuck does Portland make a quick turnaround on some picks in 2027-2029 when the players taken then will likely not be ready to compete at a high level till 3-5 years into their career? That would be somewhere in 2030-2033. Is that a quick turnaround? Sharpe might have already left in free agency

by the way, Philly's pick is not a guaranteed 1st
 
wizenheimer said:
I know what they have, but other than the 2025 Phoenix pick, the rest are 4-7 years out. And in case you didn't notice, I was responding to somebody saying the Blazers could make a quick turnaround from the "haul of picks" for Dame. How the fuck does Portland make a quick turnaround on some picks in 2027-2029 when the players taken then will likely not be ready to compete at a high level till 3-5 years into their career? That would be somewhere in 2030-2033. Is that a quick turnaround? Sharpe might have already left in free agency

by the way, Philly's pick is not a guaranteed 1st
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There just isn't a sweetheart team out there to trade him to.
 
wizenheimer said:
I know what they have, but other than the 2025 Phoenix pick, the rest are 4-7 years out. And in case you didn't notice, I was responding to somebody saying the Blazers could make a quick turnaround from the "haul of picks" for Dame. How the fuck does Portland make a quick turnaround on some picks in 2027-2029 when the players taken then will likely not be ready to compete at a high level till 3-5 years into their career? That would be somewhere in 2030-2033. Is that a quick turnaround? Sharpe might have already left in free agency

by the way, Philly's pick is not a guaranteed 1st
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Yeah if we trade Dame we should be looking at some years where we need to be excited about player development. 3-4 year turnaround to get back to the playoffs optimistically.
 
I am hoping that Badji is the reason we did not roll the dice on a young center prospect at 23.
Summer league should give a glimpse of that
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah if we trade Dame we should be looking at some years where we need to be excited about player development. 3-4 year turnaround to get back to the playoffs optimistically.
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I think 3-4 years is very optimistic. 6-8 seems more realistic
 
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2301177

Brad Stevens traded for the 25th pick in the first round.

He traded the 25th pick for the 31st pick and two future second rounders.

He traded the 31st pick for the 34th and 39th picks.

He traded the 34th pick for the 38th pick and a future second rounder.

He used the 38th pick to select Jordan Walsh.

He traded the 39th pick for, I think, another future second round pick.

Final tally, which could be wrong: After all that, the 25th pick eventually became Jordan Walsh and four future second rounders.
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blazerkor said:
Yeah if we trade Dame we should be looking at some years where we need to be excited about player development. 3-4 year turnaround to get back to the playoffs optimistically.
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Yeah that is too long for me. I watch every game and that would be painful.
 
Natebishop3 said:
There just isn't a sweetheart team out there to trade him to.
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I know

I just get tired of people talking about the "haul of picks" or the "godfather" package Portland will get from trading Dame. It's not going to happen

my fear is that, if Dame asks out, Portland will still try and be competitive. That would be the worst outcome. It would just be back to the maybe-play-in-maybe-late-in-the-lottery purgatory they were in for so much of the Olshey era. Nothing like picks in the 13-19 range to load up on low level role players
 
wizenheimer said:
I know

I just get tired of people talking about the "haul of picks" or the "godfather" package Portland will get from trading Dame. It's not going to happen

my fear is that, if Dame asks out, Portland will still try and be competitive. That would be the worst outcome. It would just be back to the maybe-play-in-maybe-late-in-the-lottery purgatory they were in for so much of the Olshey era. Nothing like picks in the 13-19 range to load up on low level role players
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Not with Cronin as GM. He will give Dame away.
 
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