Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #47 - BLAZERS VS BUCKS - JAN 28, 2025 - TUES - 7:00 PM - TNT - BLAZERVISION

[illmatic99]

He sees how shitty Miami is treating Butler

That said Dame never ever did what Jimmy has done like being late by 5 hrs for a team flight or throwing tantrums and walking out of shootarounds.

 

[blazerkor]

Why do you say this? Genuinely curious. None are plus defenders, so what is the benefit?

Yeah, they're all offense first guys. Scoot and Shaedon need a dawg as the backup guard.

Send Ant and Banton for Cole Anthony Black... I mean Cole Anthony and Anthony Black. Black guards 1 through 4 and he gets after it on that end, he can set up an offense but isn't a great shooter. Scoot's shot has come around, Shaedon's shot is beautiful he just needs a bit more confidence or maybe more consistent effort... both are things that can come with maturity.

Get rid of Ant, bring in Black and reset the pecking order to see if that's something that will get Shaedon more consistently engaged every play of the game on both ends.

 

[e_blazer]

Why do you say this? Genuinely curious. None are plus defenders, so what is the benefit?

I think it’s pretty early to say whether Sharpe and Scoot will remain poor defensively. Both obviously have the bodies to be solid. Ant is what he is. A guy who can get blistering hot as a scorer, but is a bit of a sieve on defense. I think when you have defenders like Camara, Deni, Williams and Clingan you can afford a guy like Ant.

 

[blazerfan11]

he's a 6'9 josh hart with a better handle, a better shot, better vision and the same motor. incredible player.

Hart slices through opponents, Avdija sends them flying.

 

[blazerkor]

Hart slices through opponents, Avdija sends them flying.

Yeah Deni is great but I find it funny that he just throws himself into defenders and then stays down like a soccer player or something. He's got a flair for the dramatic after initiating contact.

I am here for it though. He's so much fun to watch and really has that motor. Having two guys with that kind of motor in Deni and Tou is really great.

 

[B-Roy]

Avidija is averaging 18/8/4 per 36 on 22% usage. Part of me wonders what would happen if you upped his usage to 30% by just handing him the ball and letting him do whatever he wanted. What numbers could he put up? I think 25/8/5 on good efficiency is not out of the question? I think he's on the same tier of players as Brandon Ingram, Pascal Siakam and Paul George. Except these guys are making 3x his salary....what a bargain.

 

[handiman]

Why isn’t RW3 playing in this one?

I speculated in another thread that there's a very high correlation between Rob sitting and both Ayton and Clingan playing.

 

[BlazerBeav]

I love watching Deni play hoops! I really enjoyed this one! Finally justified having tickets!

 

[wizenheimer]

Avidija is averaging 18/8/4 per 36 on 22% usage. Part of me wonders what would happen if you upped his usage to 30% by just handing him the ball and letting him do whatever he wanted. What numbers could he put up? I think 25/8/5 on good efficiency is not out of the question? I think he's on the same tier of players as Brandon Ingram, Pascal Siakam and Paul George. Except these guys are making 3x his salary....what a bargain.

Ingram...maybe. He's just too injury prone to sustain any elite production. Every time he gets cooking he gets hurt. When he returns, not so much. But they sure are different kinds of players

Siakam? Saying Deni is on the same tier is a stretch. Siakam has been all NBA twice, the last time only 3 years ago

prime Paul George? c'mon, no way. 34 year old injury-history Paul George. Sure. Might even be ascending to the next tier while PG13 sinks

and it's worth debating the merits of posting the numbers you suggest on a 50 win team vs a 25 win team

 

[Five Second Violation]

Hoping the league gives us some lottery karma for tanking responsibly this season. Seemed to do the trick for us in 2007.

 

[B-Roy]

Ingram...maybe. He's just too injury prone to sustain any elite production. Every time he gets cooking he gets hurt. When he returns, not so much. But they sure are different kinds of players

Siakam? Saying Deni is on the same tier is a stretch. Siakam has been all NBA twice, the last time only 3 years ago

prime Paul George? c'mon, no way. 34 year old injury-history Paul George. Sure. Might even be ascending to the next tier while PG13 sinks

and it's worth debating the merits of posting the numbers you suggest on a 50 win team vs a 25 win team

I'm obviously talking about Siakam and George now. As in 24-25 Siakam/George.

 

[bemac]

A few tweaks to be made, but this is the team. Y'all taking about the young core, this group is the young core. Love watching it develop.

 

[blazerfan11]

I'm obviously talking about Siakam and George now. As in 24-25 Siakam/George.

 

[Natebishop3]

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He's comparing their production right now.... or least what Deni's production would look like if he was getting 30% usage.

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I don't know why my snip tool has been so shitty. As soon as I hit "new" the screen gets all pixelated. Anyway, his best shooting month was December, but his best overall month has been January. I think if you expanded his shots to 15-18 FGA per game he could catch Siakam. He's already better than PG13.

 

[KingSpeed]

I’ve loved watching this season. I love the good and don’t mind the bad. Now, post All-Star break when we sit everyone and run Minaya at starting PG, that’s when I’ll check out. Right now, it’s fun. I especially like doing it in our one TNT game and listening to the announcers talk about how great we are. Good times.

 

[KingSpeed]

this is the case every tuesday/thursday for tnt broadcasts.

So which night is the original gang?

If he had one of the best three point strokes in the history of the game then I'd say he plays a lot like Larry Legend. That same reckless abandon, the same willingness to make the right pass and just the sheer will.

Yep.

he's a 6'9 josh hart with a better handle, a better shot, better vision and the same motor. incredible player.

Yes indeed.

No. Since we won’t probably have a chance at him if we keep winning some occasional games.

let’s see what happens after the All Star break

 

[jlprk]

I missed the game. By the box score and play-by-play, I see that Simons again was motivated against his mentor. Milwaukee missed a lot of 3s, so Ayton and Avidja got a lot of rebounds. We started 3 forwards, but total minutes was normal...guards 96, forwards 96, centers 48. So Billups tried to surprise the Bucks, and later reversed the lineup mix. Even after this loss, the Bucks are on a 9 win 3 loss streak. I think their current record of .578 will decrease a little.

Camara and Trent are equivalent defenders, but have different roles in points vs. rebounds. The play-by-play sometimes shows one do well, motivating the other to do something on the next play. That rivalry, plus the main one, Simons vs Lillard, helps us play harder vs. the Bucks instead of sleeping with a loser attitude, show our potential, and beat the Bucks more than other teams.

Billups is slowly getting sharper. The coming midseason trade may trim the roster and decrease his options. Fewer options might revert him to tanking, or might increase efficiency and win more. It could go either way, but something big will change then.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

My favorite win of the the season. Not because of who we played but how we played. Our two forwards are dogs those guys never let up on defense. Those two guys should both be on all NBA defensive teams. I feel good about our future with those two at forward positions.

not even sure what position we need to fill in this years draft? Obviously take an upgrade at any position but pretty happy with the young guys we have.

depending on what happens in trades I would be disappointed if we aren’t at least in the play in for playoffs next year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

chauncey is about to play ant for 40 and scoot for just 25.

this on a night when scoot has 10/6 with no turnovers.

foolish.

What part of "displaying our wares in the shop window" don't you understand?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

not even sure what position we need to fill in this years draft?

I agree, it's hard. We have a bunch of forwards I really like - Camara and Avdija obviously foremost, but I like Walker, Murray and see hope for Rupert. We're kind of committed to Scoot and Shaedon at guard, and I'm a huge Clingan fan at center. So....? I mean, I would've said PG a month ago, and I still might, but Scoot's certainly giving me pause these days. If I'm honest, I'd say SG is our weakest link because Shaedon just doesn't seem to have the attitude to make the most of his possible star talent. Maybe we should be dreaming of Dylan Harper, because he works with both of them? But I think he'll be on a Cade Cunningham timeline rather than a Luka Doncic timeline when he comes to the NBA.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Team is playing like they want to save Chauncey's job. Great effort tonight and well balanced sharing the ball on offense. Bunch of guys with 20 pts and a few with 10 or 15

Apparently after losing the team, Chauncey found them.

Seriously though, Chauncey may or may not be a good coach, but I never saw signs of him losing the team this year.

 

[handiman]

Apparently after losing the team, Chauncey found them.

Seriously though, Chauncey may or may not be a good coach, but I never saw signs of him losing the team this year.

For some reason, I'm picturing the name tag on his office door saying Lost & Found.

 

[e_blazer]

Yeah, they're all offense first guys. Scoot and Shaedon need a dawg as the backup guard.

Send Ant and Banton for Cole Anthony Black... I mean Cole Anthony and Anthony Black. Black guards 1 through 4 and he gets after it on that end, he can set up an offense but isn't a great shooter. Scoot's shot has come around, Shaedon's shot is beautiful he just needs a bit more confidence or maybe more consistent effort... both are things that can come with maturity.

Get rid of Ant, bring in Black and reset the pecking order to see if that's something that will get Shaedon more consistently engaged every play of the game on both ends.

Don’t we already have that defensive guard guy in Thybulle? Of, course, he’s been out the entire season. I can’t figure out if he’s really as injured as his missed games would suggest or if he’s “tank injured”.

 

[THE HCP]

Not sure if anybody noticed, but pre tip Dame walked over to give some hugs to some of the Blazers coaching staff.....and then went over to Joe and Jody and gave big hugs. Class act right there.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Yeah, they're all offense first guys. Scoot and Shaedon need a dawg as the backup guard.

Send Ant and Banton for Cole Anthony Black... I mean Cole Anthony and Anthony Black. Black guards 1 through 4 and he gets after it on that end, he can set up an offense but isn't a great shooter. Scoot's shot has come around, Shaedon's shot is beautiful he just needs a bit more confidence or maybe more consistent effort... both are things that can come with maturity.

Get rid of Ant, bring in Black, and reset the pecking order to see if that's something that will get Shaedon more consistently engaged every play of the game on both ends.

Neither Cole nor Black is as good as Deni. as a backup PG. As we saw last night Deni, for a big portion of the game was the lead ball handler. He plays well next to Sharpe and Ant in that role. So if we want to let Deni continue to be Deni, he needs to have a shooter or two next to him.

So while Grant makes absolute sense to move, I see no reason why Ant needs to go. Not saying not to trade him if the right package comes along but I do not see the urgency with him as I do with Grant. I hope that next year we will not be in the lottery, and I think Ant provides a need that will help them win games. If we draft a forward then we will need him. However, if we draft a guard......then I would trade him this summer. Or possibly trade him to move up a couple of spots in the draft to get one.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Not sure if anybody noticed, but pre tip Dame walked over to give some hugs to some of the Blazers coaching staff.....and then went over to Joe and Jody and gave big hugs. Class act right there.

Good to hear. Maybe the Dame Cronin beef is history.

 

[Foxx]

Bullish DeniAvdi

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Don’t we already have that defensive guard guy in Thybulle? Of, course, he’s been out the entire season. I can’t figure out if he’s really as injured as his missed games would suggest or if he’s “tank injured”.

Thybulle wasn't good enough to play for a 6ers team with below average wings. I just don't see him ever providing value to the rotation.

I mean he's probably better than a remix/Gleague player, but he's certainly worse than All our starters and our primary backups. Maybe he beats out 3rd string Rupert/Murray types if there's an injury or something.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Bullish DeniAvdi

We all heard the last two years that this team was being rebuilt around Scoot and Sharpe at guards.

Camara and Deni are making a much better case for rebuilding it around both of them as forwards.

 

[Cugel]

Ayton was on fire after Tou's poster over Lopez. I like seeing him fired up when a teammate does well. Those little things makes me reconsider trade ideas for me. He is 26. The beard makes him look old but he is still young and incredibly talented. He delivers that kinda game consistently then I have no problems with him on the roster. I just don't see a guy like him taking minutes from DC, who may never be a 35 min/game guy in this league. Yeah he has his quirks but who doesnt?