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The "Way too Early' Draft prognostication

  • Holland

    Votes: 8 16.3%

  • Sarr

    Votes: 41 83.7%

  • Edwards

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    49
Predator said:
Just don’t draft another short guard
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Dillingham is starting to get a lot of buzz. It could possibly be a trade-out situation where we need a player or something and get a ‘25 1st for picking Dillingham with the dubs pick and dealing him to another team.
 
MrDraftGuy said:
What he states is pretty much what I'm in line with and why I think Missi is quite interesting. Though, I'm not as down on Clingan, either, since I view him along the Vuvecic or Bogut type center that still has relevancy in today's game. Regardless, Missi is very much like Capella, who would do well running to the rim.

He doesn't have Sarr as #1, which I agree.

Sarr, I'm beginning to view more like Bargnani was to Dirk or Beasley was to KD. A talented player who gets hyped due to the most recent trend and who can get 18-22ppg but is missing something extra. Maybe I am wrong and he improves but I don't see anything special about him like I did with Wemby, Chet, or Ace Bailey....all of whom, are way more capable of shot creators with their thin and wiry frames.

He seems to have hinted at Cody Williams being #1. I also agree. Williams should be Portland's ideal target in the Top 5.

Shot creation abilities that will translate to the NBA simply because of his ball handling and body control.


Strong defensive plays, as well:


He'll be playing the Oregon Ducks tonight, if anyone wants to watch.
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That’s good that he doesn’t have Sarr #1, it just removes all the desire from needing to win the first overall pick. At #5 though, I’m not sure that Sarr wouldn’t be the right prospect to grab. That would presume guys like Williams, Topic, Risacher, etc have already gone before him.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
He is the highest-ranked recruit in program history and the first five-star recruit to join Colorado.
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Kwame Evans was 5 star recruit, McDonald's All American and according to some top five in the country. Williams thoroughly outplayed and out hustled him tonight and even blocked one of his shots right at the basket.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Kwame Evans was 5 star recruit, McDonald's All American and according to some top five in the country. Williams thoroughly outplayed and out hustled him tonight and even blocked one of his shots right at the basket.
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Well, there are a lot of recruiting services, but 247 Sports has Evans as a 4-star recruit at #18 and Williams as a 5-star at #4.
No one I have ever seen has ever suggested they are an equivalent talent.

To me Williams looks great. He just needs to add some weight.
Evans needs at least another year in college.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Kwame Evans was 5 star recruit, McDonald's All American and according to some top five in the country. Williams thoroughly outplayed and out hustled him tonight and even blocked one of his shots right at the basket.
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Kwame Brown hasn’t looked good this year. Mookie Cook looks like crap too.

Oregon is notorious for getting highly rated hoops players that are duds
 
MickZagger said:
Kwame Brown hasn’t looked good this year. Mookie Cook looks like crap too.

Oregon is notorious for getting highly rated hoops players that are duds
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Sure, Mookie has not looked good in his......... 27 minutes this season
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Well, there are a lot of recruiting services, but 247 Sports has Evans as a 4-star recruit at #18 and Williams as a 5-star at #4.
No one I have ever seen has ever suggested they are an equivalent talent.

To me Williams looks great. He just needs to add some weight.
Evans needs at least another year in college.
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I guess what I saw was from his junior year; he must have really fallen off as a senior. ?Evans (6-9, 190) is ranked as the No. 2 overall prospect in the 2023 class and the top-ranked power forward according to both 247Sports and the industry average 247Sports Composite. "
 
MrDraftGuy said:
What he states is pretty much what I'm in line with and why I think Missi is quite interesting. Though, I'm not as down on Clingan, either, since I view him along the Vuvecic or Bogut type center that still has relevancy in today's game. Regardless, Missi is very much like Capella, who would do well running to the rim.

He doesn't have Sarr as #1, which I agree.

Sarr, I'm beginning to view more like Bargnani was to Dirk or Beasley was to KD. A talented player who gets hyped due to the most recent trend and who can get 18-22ppg but is missing something extra. Maybe I am wrong and he improves but I don't see anything special about him like I did with Wemby, Chet, or Ace Bailey....all of whom, are way more capable of shot creators with their thin and wiry frames.

He seems to have hinted at Cody Williams being #1. I also agree. Williams should be Portland's ideal target in the Top 5.

Shot creation abilities that will translate to the NBA simply because of his ball handling and body control.


Strong defensive plays, as well:


He'll be playing the Oregon Ducks tonight, if anyone wants to watch.
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Spot on.

I'd like to see more 3P volume for Williams. That's it. But I still have him ahead of all the other SF prospects. "Craftiness" is kind of underrated. Him and Walter have plenty enough to make up for the first step.
 
BankTeller said:
Dillingham is starting to get a lot of buzz. It could possibly be a trade-out situation where we need a player or something and get a ‘25 1st for picking Dillingham with the dubs pick and dealing him to another team.
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I've been flirting with the idea of taking him with our first pick. He's going to produce in the NBA. I guess it depends on how confident you are in Scoot and if we trade Simons. So, right now he's not a good fit. I can already see how annoying it would be to have him producing as a backup PG, being great at Scoots weaknesses, and everyone on this site clamoring to have Scoot benched or traded. Also, I don't think he'll go past #8
 


Cody Williams excelled against a decent Oregon squad last night. Some complaints were that he hasn't faced strong enough competition but the Seminoles and Ducks play decent enough competition while having winning records and Colorado State was a ranked team he went up against.

Williams has excelled against all three teams. Not sure who to compare him to but there is a bit of Kawhi and Butler to his game. Playmaking SF. Not as naturally strong or powerful as those players but more agile and more finesse involved as he wills his way to the rim. Potentially clutch, as a player.

His brother is also a solid comp but as a prospect, he's probably better than his brother at the same age.

Not saying he'll be better than his brother but I'd honestly expect a Jalen Williams clone with more potential due to being taller.

Rebounding is weak, though. Regardless, that's the kind of player you put next to Sharpe and Simons/Scoot and then, try to get a rim runner center like Missi with the Warriors pick to help supplement his rebounding weakness while amplifying his playmaking.

Ideally, Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey, and Cam Boozer are on the horizon as future Blazer PFs who could fulfill a role as the forward that helps complete a championship squad (look at every championship team in the last decade and a half aka since KG/Pierce.....a strong 3/4 combo seems to matter)
 
Risacher just had like 23 pts in 20 minutes. Had a few fast break dunks, looks really confident taking deep 3's without thinking. There's talk of him going #1 ahead of Sarr, depending on who wins the lottery.
 
Yes, indeed, Risacher is doing very well in recent weeks. On top of his shooting stroke, he has decent ball handling skills which will allow him to perform situational slashing. He's not like Ben McLemore or Martell Webster, in that sense.

Reminds me of Glen Rice. Likewise, another comp is a Michael Porter Jr. if he retained some athleticism and was willing to pass more.

Ideal fit for the Pistons imo. But if Cody Williams is gone, he'd fit well in Portland, too.....just not as well as Williams, who would compliment Simon's lack of PG skills as a secondary ball handler type and fix certain issues Portland has with Simons being the starting PG.

If Sarr is the Bargnani of the draft, I'd call Risacher the LaMarcus Aldridge of this draft (not as flashy, effective jumper, hidden athleticism, lowkey good defender) while Cody Williams is the Brandon Roy (well rounded, point skills, practically no weakness, can do no wrong, possibly clutch).

I'm beginning to feel more certain about these two and of Stephon Castle (the 'Kyle Lowry', I suppose, in terms of his 'starpower' and impact). Maybe Topic is some combo of Rondo and JJ in terms of the player tier he'll be (good scorer, good playmaking, not necessarily a big star). Holland, I see as the Rudy Gay.

Don't think too directly about these comparisons but my point is that there should be 5 All Stars here and 2-3 borderline All Stars (guys who can hit 17-20ppg at some point) just like the 2006 draft had. That is a very normal and average draft and not bad like a 2013 or 2000 NBA Draft where you only had a few All-Stars (maybe only 1-2 multiple time All-Stars out of those few, with only 2 borderline All-Stars at most).
 
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CJ_is_Gone said:
I think there's a new #1 prospect for this draft.





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D69 and I found him last year, and then he didn't enter the Draft. He has some unique abilities, but due to the level of play, it's tough to gauge him.
 
TBpup said:
D69 and I found him last year, and then he didn't enter the Draft. He has some unique abilities, but due to the level of play, it's tough to gauge him.
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Will be interesting to watch him the rest of the season at Kentucky. Could be a surprise super riser.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
I think there's a new #1 prospect for this draft.





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I certainly hope he's really this good. This year's draft really needs somebody to stand out.

It was hard to put any kind of grade on him based on the first video clip and some of his other tape. He can move well for his size, has great instincts, can pass, shoot, attack the basket. The "old" five months ago analysis was that he's a walking bucket, but the defense was not good despite the stocks/game. His lateral quickness was not good at all.

I had no idea what to expect in his Kentucky debut. The lateral quickness didn't appear to be an issue and if the shooting is real, he's probably top 5 atm. We may have a new reason to tank!

Also, this would push Sarr, Williams and Risacher down another spot with two other low-lottery teams needing a PG. Not a bad consolation if we don't rise up on lottery day.
 
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MarinerDNA said:
I certainly hope he's really this good. This year's draft really needs somebody to stand out.

It was hard to put any kind of grade on him based on the first video clip and some of his other tape. He can move well for his size, has great instincts, can pass, shoot, attack the basket. The "old" five months ago analysis was that he's a walking bucket, but the defense was not good despite the stocks/game. His lateral quickness was not good at all.

I had no idea what to expect in his Kentucky debut. The lateral quickness didn't appear to be an issue and if the shooting is real, he's probably top 5 atm. We may have a new reason to tank!

Also, this would push Sarr, Williams and Risacher down another spot with two other low-lottery teams needing a PG. Not a bad consolation if we don't rise up on lottery day.
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Tankathon has him at 57 on their board atm. see if he starts rising.
 
Galakelife said:
Tankathon has him at 57 on their board atm. see if he starts rising.
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I noticed that. Also saw that the other draft outlets don't even have him listed.

Based on the little I saw he's definitely in my top 10 ( if not top 5)

He reminds me a lot of Porziņģis, but with a little more aggression
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
I noticed that. Also saw that the other draft outlets don't even have him listed.

Based on the little I saw he's definitely in my top 10 ( if not top 5)

He reminds me a lot of Porziņģis, but with a little more aggression
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Like you said, the more guys that can legitimately put themselves in the top 5 conversation, the better for us.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
I noticed that. Also saw that the other draft outlets don't even have him listed.

Based on the little I saw he's definitely in my top 10 ( if not top 5)

He reminds me a lot of Porziņģis, but with a little more aggression
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Rare for guys to make that big of a jump in just 5 months.

Last year on Feb 2, this was Tankathon's big board: Wemby, Scoot, Amen, Miller, Ausar

The year before on Jan 21, they had: Jabari, Chet, Paolo, Ivey, Sharpe.
 
illmatic99 said:
Rare for guys to make that big of a jump in just 5 months.

Last year on Feb 2, this was Tankathon's big board: Wemby, Scoot, Amen, Miller, Ausar

The year before on Jan 21, they had: Jabari, Chet, Paolo, Ivey, Sharpe.
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I would imagine it was more a question of eligibility than skill, but I dunno? Seemed like people were really high on his debut, so imagine most just assumed he wouldn't be available?
 
RR7 said:
I would imagine it was more a question of eligibility than skill, but I dunno? Seemed like people were really high on his debut, so imagine most just assumed he wouldn't be available?
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perhaps, but he has been on the NBA radar for a while. he'll be 21 at the start of the nba season.

ridiculous debut though
 
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