2024 NBA Draft Thread

[THE HCP]

Nobody in here is "so hyped about the #5 and #14th picks". You're arguing against a position that nobody holds. What people ARE doing is discussing which players that will be available at the spots where we will draft have size/skillset combinations that will best complement our current rebuild.


Nobody in here is talking about players that will make us better next year. You're arguing against a position that nobody holds. What people ARE doing is talking about players that we hope will be part of a competitive team 2-3 years down the road.


Nobody in here is mad at you for not getting excited. You're arguing against a position that nobody holds. What people ARE annoyed by is you being a wet blanket any time they're minimally excited about anything.

Fact is, how posters or analysts label this draft doesn't change the reality of the Blazers' draft situation. They will, in fact, have two first round picks. One would hope that Blazer fans would be united in their desire for the front office to make the most of those picks, even in a "bad draft."

"wet blanket" or just being realistic. No different than the win predictions

 

[THE HCP]

It's becoming increasingly clear that you don't actually understand how the lottery works. We're actually least likely to get the fifth pick in the top 5.



Who uses next year as a barometer of whether or not a draft was successful? The best guard in the league took 4 years to develop (SGA).

You constantly tell me what I don't know about. Like the Uber Driver. I understand how the draft works son. I understand fans overhype players on the daily. Just keep the hype train chugging along.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

"wet blanket" or just being realistic. No different than the win predictions

Everyone believes their own opinions to be "realistic"--hypemen and wet blankets alike.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I strongly disagree with this.
Even taking out Wemby, the '23 and '24 draft classes are not comparable.

Combining draft classes:
Sarr would be taken ~5-6 (after Miller, Scoot, & Thompson twins)
Risacher would be taken in the 10-14 range (similar level prospect to Howard, Dick, Hawkins)
Topic would be in that same 10-14 range (slightly better than Bufkin, Hood-Schifino)

Williams, Holland, Buzelis would all be in the 15-25 range (Jaquez, Podziemski, Whitmore, OMax, etc).

I want the crystal ball (or meth) you're using.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

You constantly tell me what I don't know about. Like the Uber Driver. I understand how the draft works son. I understand fans overhype players on the daily. Just keep the hype train chugging along.

Sure, but do you have an alternative? We are a small market team. The draft is the best way to eventual contention. I would even look into moving Ant and the GS or our pick to move up.

 

[THE HCP]

Everyone believes their own opinions to be "realistic"--hypemen and wet blankets alike.[/QUOTE

I disagree sir/maam...... I read unbelievably UNREALISTIC posts on here daily. It's those unrealistic takes and opinions that lead to people claiming our 20 year old PG is a "bust" before he had played 30 pro games after 19 semi-pro games. It's those same unrealistic takes that hype up a horrible draft....that all I'm saying man. Didn't mean to rub you the wrong way.

 

[THE HCP]

Sure, but do you have an alternative? We are a small market team. The draft is the best way to eventual contention. I would even look into moving Ant and the GS or our pick to move up.

I never questioned our market size or if the draft is our best way moving forward...I know it is. I'm questioning the talent level of this draft is all.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I never questioned our market size or if the draft is our best way moving forward...I know it is. I'm questioning the talent level of this draft is all.

You should. But that doesn't mean there won't be some high quality starters we have the opportunity to add to our team.

 

[THE HCP]

You should. But that doesn't mean there won't be some high quality starters we have the opportunity to add to our team.

I don't think any player in this draft will start next season let alone be "high quality". Is that what you meant?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Sure, but do you have an alternative? We are a small market team. The draft is the best way to eventual contention. I would even look into moving Ant and the GS or our pick to move up.

2 lottery picks and Ant is a bit risky for Sarr. Is he a sure thing? I think there will be stars from this draft in a few years, but we just don't know yet who they are. We are absolutely drafting for the future, not next year.

Although I would still be disappointed if our ping ball balls came up in the 7th spot (Where we currently have a 25.7 percent chance of doing so) I would not be as upset as I normally would be. There are quite a few young players, who just need to improve in one area to make the jump. But in this latest mock draft, (as well as Tankathon) I would be just as OK taking the guy they have at 8 (who they compare to Hedo Türkoğlu) as who they have #2 that they compare to Harrison Barnes.

https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-r...d-pro-comparisons-as-tournament-play-heats-up

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

Ayton is overpriced as a 2nd to 3rd tier center BUT I prefer him to Nurk. Period. And after watching the top centers in the NCAA, I’m glad we don’t have to pick one this year!

Sarr at PF/C beside Ayton would be excellent. Otherwise, I hope for Time Lord health and minutes for Reath. I do like Zvonimir Ivisic as a prospect.

In the lottery at forward, the Blazers can improve this team for the future. Absolutely. The tougher trick to pull off is when to trade Grant, Ant, Time Lord and Matisse.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I don't think any player in this draft will start next season let alone be "high quality". Is that what you meant?

You're obsessed with next season. The Spurs got the greatest prospect of all time and they were just as bad as they were the season before. Nobody is making us a contender next season.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

2 lottery picks and Ant is a bit risky for Sarr. Is he a sure thing? I think there will be stars from this draft in a few years, but we just don't know yet who they are. We are absolutely drafting for the future, not next year.

Not all those pieces, but some combination of them. If we don't land #1, I'd love for a team who doesn't need or want Sarr to get it so we can move up. I'd rather us be aggressive than just sitting back and taking what's left over.

Although I would still be disappointed if our ping ball balls came up in the 7th spot (Where we currently have a 25.7 percent chance of doing so) I would not be as upset as I normally would be. There are quite a few young players, who just need to improve in one area to make the jump. But in this latest mock draft, (as well as Tankathon) I would be just as OK taking the guy they have at 8 (who they compare to Hedo Türkoğlu) as who they have #2 that they compare to Harrison Barnes.

https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-r...d-pro-comparisons-as-tournament-play-heats-up

I like Matas. We have enough assets to move up should we want. I just hope Cronin and Schmitz target their guys. We can't bring in 4 rookies.

 

[THE HCP]

You're obsessed with next season. The Spurs got the greatest prospect of all time and they were just as bad as they were the season before. Nobody is making us a contender next season.

"Obsessed" I would say I'm concerned with the team's future. Oh trust me, I KNOW nobody will make us a contender next season. That'd be different if there was an all time great in this draft.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

"Obsessed" I would say I'm concerned with the team's future. Oh trust me, I KNOW nobody will make us a contender next season. That'd be different if there was an all time great in this draft.

Like Wemby?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Clingan is somewhere between Przybilla and Gobert

Except he’s 7’4” (w/shoes)

Sign me up

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Vecenie's last mock had Portland ending up with Holland and Salaun. Cody Williams slipped to 10.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Clingan is somewhere between Przybilla and Gobert

Except he’s 7’4” (w/shoes)

Sign me up

I think he'll rise.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I think he'll rise.

DX just updated their mock — Clingan at 5 (to Portland)

 

[Sheldon Shape]

DX just updated their mock — Clingan at 5 (to Portland)

I don't think I'd like that.

 

[THE HCP]

Make it make sense

 

[Phatguysrule]

I don't think any player in this draft will start next season let alone be "high quality". Is that what you meant?

There will be multiple All Stars taken in this draft. Maybe not All Stars next year. But we don't need them to be All Stars next year. We can wait.

 

[Whyachi]

Make it make sense

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Portland is drafting Cody Williams, and more guards that Billups can coach up. I saw Chauncey yelling at Rupert tonight, he doesn't like the tall guys. Give coach a fresh bundle of backcourt ballhandlers for improved zippy zap passing (defense optional) until the next draft next year.

 

[Samuel]

I wish clingan was slightly more fleet of foot.

 

[wizenheimer]

Just trying to keep it real. But on the bright side, you won't have to read my opinions in any draft threads this year. I'll let the experts do that.

LOL...since you've made the same "this draft class sucks" post about 70 times in several different threads, your opinion is already all over this board. In fact, isn't this a draft thread and haven't you made a dozen posts in it already?

and just who the fuck are the "experts" anyhow? Are they the same experts that said Scoot would be the #1 pick in any draft that didn't have a Wemby or Lebron? There were a lot of those. Are the experts as smart as GM's? Are they the same ones who drafted Dion Waiters ahead of Damian Lillard? that drafted Jabari Parker ahead of Joel Embiid? Cody Zeller ahead of Giannis? Nic Stauskas ahead of Zach LaVine? Kris Dunn ahead of Domantas Sabonis? Ante Zizic ahead of Pascal Siakam? Mario Hezonja ahead of Devin Booker? Zach Collins ahead of Bam Adebayo? Caleb Swanigan ahead of Josh Hart? Marvin Bagley ahead of Luca Doncic, Jaren Jackson, & SGA? Are they the same experts who picked 40 other players ahead of Nicola Jokic?

guessing...that's what we're doing and it's the same thing that the so-called experts are doing which is the same thing GM's are doing. Maybe they'll be right...this time...and the draft class will generally suck. But the Blazers are only going to get a limited number of dice rolls and rolling a hard 8 is about the only way they can climb up the ladder. They have to make the most of the chances they have, and they a few chances in June. It's worth talking about

 

[wizenheimer]

so I went to Tankathon and this was my first 'roll':



if I didn't have bad luck....

 

[Samuel]

so I went to Tankathon and this was my first 'roll':

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if I didn't have bad luck....

that's insane. having that warriors pick less protected next year aint a bad thing, though!

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

After San Antonio beating Phoenix last night, I am still holding out for a chance to pass them in the Tankathon. They are three games ahead and we would need to lose every one of ours, including Charlotte and Washington, but they have five games left they could reasonably win. First Utah, then Warriors, then Philly in a game Embid may not be back for, then Grizzlies and last game of the season against Detroit.

 

[wizenheimer]

After San Antonio beating Phoenix last night, I am still holding out for a chance to pass them in the Tankathon. They are three games ahead and we would need to lose every one of ours, including Charlotte and Washington, but they have five games left they could reasonably win. First Utah, then Warriors, then Philly in a game Embid may not be back for, then Grizzlies and last game of the season against Detroit.

Spurs? a 3 game lead with 10 games left is a steep hill to climb. The Spurs do own the tie-breaker, so it's possible I suppose

Blazers do have a shot at 4th seed I suppose. They play Charlotte and need to lose that game. But Charlotte has a really difficult remaining schedule. 11 games left and 10 of 11 are against playoff/play-in teams. Portland's 4-4 record in the first 2 weeks of March is haunting them. Blazers needed to start their serious tank efforts sooner

 

[blazerkor]

Spurs? a 3 game lead with 10 games left is a steep hill to climb. The Spurs do own the tie-breaker, so it's possible I suppose

Blazers do have a shot at 4th seed I suppose. They play Charlotte and need to lose that game. But Charlotte has a really difficult remaining schedule. 11 games left and 10 of 11 are against playoff/play-in teams. Portland's 4-4 record in the first 2 weeks of March is haunting them. Blazers needed to start their serious tank efforts sooner

I don't think there's a tie breaker in the lotto, I think two or more teams tied evenly split the sum of their odds in the lotto. Then if two teams land outside of the top 4 with the same record, I'm pretty sure there's just a coin flip or something. I think tie breakers like head to head or conference record only relate to playoff seeding.