Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT (1 Viewer)

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PCmor7 said:
Bailey has a lot more upside than Miller or Smith because he's a better shot-creator off the dribble.
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Sure, but there's still a gigantic gap between that and Durant. A whole lot has to go right in Bailey's development to come anywhere close to that comparison.

To my limited viewing, Bailey looks like a longer Brandon Clarke, with more of a perimeter game.
 
Jeremiah Fears has been very up and down in SEC play (mostly down), but he's finally looking like he's figuring things out. Good game vs a great Florida team and just had likely his best game of his career today vs Mississippi State.

His ability to get anywhere on the floor with a unique blend of speed and deceptiveness are traits still worth betting on in the lottery.
 
I have a funky feeling we're trading out of the draft this summer if we don't jump. Just a hunch.
 
handiman said:
Sure, but there's still a gigantic gap between that and Durant. A whole lot has to go right in Bailey's development to come anywhere close to that comparison.

To my limited viewing, Bailey looks like a longer Brandon Clarke, with more of a perimeter game.
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I don't think many people are making the comparison of Bailey to Durant. Durant's an MVP candidate multiple times over. Bailey has elite scoring skills and is a mismatch nightmare that needs to put it all together -- Durant had it all together as a freshman in college.

But Brandon Clarke? Clarke has nowhere near the offensive tools Bailey has to work with. Maybe I've just seen more of him because I live in Big Ten territory, but to compare Bailey to Clarke as a prospect is insulting to Bailey, and I saw Clarke play in college, too. I honestly have no idea where that comparison comes from. These players are nothing alike.
 
Samuel said:
I have a funky feeling we're trading out of the draft this summer if we don't jump. Just a hunch.
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Could happen if another Avidja trade became available, but I'm not betting on that.

I think even if the Blazers are in the bottom of the top 10, there are going to be players they can draft that will help them and maybe even help pretty quickly. I think McNeeley, Knueppel and Tre Johnson are potential elite shooters which is something the Blazers don't have right now. They'd be really good fits. I know his stock's dropped, but I saw enough of Egor Demin early in the season to believe he could be special; 6-9 and a great handle and elite passer -- guys who pass the ball like that make teams better, and he's not someone you need to hide on defense, he just needs to shoot better. Jakucionis could drop, and he's going to be a good pro. And I still really like Essengue, the kid we saw from Ulm in the preseason; 6-10 and can play basically any position, he could be a better Batum when it's all said and done. Asa Newell and Thomas Sorber are worth drafting.

There's easily 10 really good prospects in this lottery. In fact, I think it's more likely that we'd move one of the vets if we could for an extra pick this year or next rather than trade out of this draft.
 
JDC said:
Jeremiah Fears has been very up and down in SEC play (mostly down), but he's finally looking like he's figuring things out. Good game vs a great Florida team and just had likely his best game of his career today vs Mississippi State.

His ability to get anywhere on the floor with a unique blend of speed and deceptiveness are traits still worth betting on in the lottery.
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Yeah I like him a lot
 
Who is the 10th best prospect? Can we please break his or her game down
 
Those who follow college basketball, who are the nearest players to these archetypes?
Klay Thompson
Draymond Green
Jrue Holiday
SGA
?
 
STOMP said:


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The top 4 look pretty good. I would love to have any of them.

But I am not sure there is a clear generational talent there. They all will need to improve to be a "difference maker"
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Those who follow college basketball, who are the nearest players to these archetypes?
Klay Thompson
Draymond Green
Jrue Holiday
SGA
?
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SGA = Dylan Harper

Klay Thompson = Ace Bailey, albeit he is more like MPJ/KD put together.

That's about it. The other guys are probably in another draft.

I thought Jarace Walker had Draymond/Aaron Gordon potential and Pacers fans seem to like him but until he turns 23 or 24, we probably won't see how true that is.
 
MrDraftGuy said:
SGA = Dylan Harper

Klay Thompson = Ace Bailey, albeit he is more like MPJ/KD put together.
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I was hoping for players other than two of the top three that everyone talks about. Is Ace Bailey a good defender? And I see more of Cade Cunningham in Dylan Harper.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I was hoping for players other than two of the top three that everyone talks about. Is Ace Bailey a good defender? And I see more of Cade Cunningham in Dylan Harper.
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Ace Bailey is toolsy and plays good defense but still needs to develop it further for the NBA.

SGAs don't exactly grow on trees. If there's an SGA in the NBA, there's a McGrady/Wade/Manu to his Kobe and that's probably just about it. Cade, Harper are probably the only "PGs with SG height" to compare him to.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I was hoping for players other than two of the top three that everyone talks about. Is Ace Bailey a good defender? And I see more of Cade Cunningham in Dylan Harper.
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His off ball defense needs a lot of work but the movement skills a 6'10" are pretty damn good, stl and blk% are solid and he's made enough flash plays that I think you can safely project him to be above average by his 3rd year.

I'm actually more confident in that projection than his offense.

His decision making and inability to generate high quality looks in the half court are the big question marks for me
 
God this sucks. That damn win streak is gonna slow our progress down for years in my opinion. Draft obviously isn’t a sure thing, but we couldn’t used one of those top3.
 
THE HCP said:
God this sucks. That damn win streak is gonna slow our progress down for years in my opinion. Draft obviously isn’t a sure thing, but we couldn’t used one of those top3.
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Yeah, right now we're in the 9 spot... would be 6th if we'd gone something like 4-7 instead of 10-1. More significantly, though, I still feel like their inactivity at the trade deadline was prompted by that unexpected competence.
 
Wasn't Atlanta # 10, and got the first pick last year? We are now 9th? That seems close.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think even if the Blazers are in the bottom of the top 10, there are going to be players they can draft that will help them and maybe even help pretty quickly.
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that’s interesting you say that, I’m not a fan of the late lottery this year. Lots of ‘mid/late first’ type guys that we’d be drafting up at 9/10. we’ll see.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
But I am not sure there is a clear generational talent there. They all will need to improve to be a "difference maker"
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Nothing is guaranteed in life, but baring injury I'll be surprised if Cooper doesn't make some All NBA teams. He isn't the flashiest or a tip top option as the clock is winding down but he's pretty good at those things too and brings so many winning basketball traits to the table. I see him potentially as the Tim Duncan of small forwards. Bailey could be the next Glen Rice with some more length and D. The high release on his J will allow him to shoot it without fear of being blocked which is why I like him much more then I did Brandon Miller two years back. Few players can get clean looks at will and only a few of those have as solid a jumper as AB.

Most every young player improves as they enter their 20s and what exactly a generational talent is is a bit vague/subjective, but those two project to be excellent players.

STOMP
 
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We will be able to use player assets and next years pick, to either trade up or for more picks/player.
 
STOMP said:
Nothing is guaranteed in life, but baring injury I'll be surprised if Cooper doesn't make some All NBA teams. He isn't the flashiest or a tip top option as the clock is winding down but he's pretty good at those things too and brings so many winning basketball traits to the table. I see him potentially as the Tim Duncan of small forwards. Bailey could be the next Glen Rice with some more length and D. The high release on his J will allow him to shoot it without fear of being blocked which is why I like him much more then I did Brandon Miller two years back. Few players can get clean looks at will and only a few of those have as solid a jumper as AB.

Most every young player improves as they enter their 20s and what exactly a generational talent is is a bit vague/subjective, but those two project to be excellent players.

STOMP
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I agree. Which is why I said I would love to have any of the top players. They should all be will be very good. But for many on this board, tanking seems to be the only way to get lucky and land that rare superstar who can lead us to an NBA championship. I think some of these guys have a chance, but Flagg does not seem to be the type of dominant player who can take over a playoff series. He does seem to be an excellent piece though. But not getting him is not as bad as losing out on Wemby IMO.
 
If we're in the 9th spot at the end of the season we have a little better than a 1 in 5 chance of moving up to the top 4.
 
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