Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT

[SharpesTriumph]

So all the irritating, idiotic posts during every Blazer game this year proved to be wrong as a team with worse odds than us won it all....again. Ainge knows how to tank! Oops

Not one of the bottom 3, who tanked the hardest for those great odds ...... ended up with a top 3 pick.

I'd rather have the Ainge pick at #5 than our pick at #11.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

All these occurred within 12 (usually ~6) months of a major trade...

2025: Luka -> Flagg
2023: Wemby to SA (his preferred location)
2019: AD -> Zion
2015: Love -> KAT
2012: Chris Paul -> AD
2011: LeBron -> Irving (+ Bennett, Wiggins in subsequent years)

Anyone who doesn't think it's possible because the lotto is monitored, should watch McMillions on Netflix.

It's almost like when teams traded away their superstar it's because they sucked and had a good chance at a high lottery pick.

I mean that or some crazy flat earth conspiracy.

 

[Chris Craig]

The Luka trade was sketchy as fuck. They never opened it up for offers. Nobody had heard anything. He was dealt for a very mediocre haul and the Mavs have just taken it on the chin for months. Their fans are in open revolt and their ownership is being bashed by local politicians. And now suddenly they beat the odds and get the number one pick.

I don’t understand you guys. We accept that politicians are corrupt and dirty shit. We accept that corporations in big pharma and Tobacco and big agg do shady shit to make money. But the idea that the NBA would rig shit to boost viewership is completely outside the realm of possibility.

Exactly

Kyle (@HailBlazers) and I were at the game when Luka got traded. When we found out, we looked at each other and had the same thought. Dallas was getting the #1 pick.

Luck my ass

 

[Pinwheel1]

I'd rather have the Ainge pick at #5 than our pick at #11.

So, who do you pick at 5?

 

[Natebishop3]

It's almost like when teams traded away their superstar it's because they sucked and had a good chance at a high lottery pick.

I mean that or some crazy flat earth conspiracy.

Good chance? 1.8%?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

If I came on here last summer and told you guys that the Mavs would trade Luka for Anthony Davis and Max Christie and then the Mavs would win the #1 pick with 1.8% odds, you would tell me I was fucking crazy and stupid.

THAT is why it's extremely hard to believe that this shit is legit.

Occam's Razor.... when faced with multiple possible explanations for an event, the one that requires the fewest assumptions or variables is likely the correct one. The Dallas Mavericks gave up a young superstar for a bad haul so that they would eventually get the #1 pick. The NBA is an entertainment league. Viewership is down a TON. They're desperate to get eyeballs back on their league. They put one of their top 5 best players back in Los Angeles and now they have rebuilt one of their other dynasties in a matter of four years with one of the best young cores we have seen in a while. Or was it the galaxy that decided the Spurs should return to power?

Or maybe the Mavs GM is a complete moron and the Mavs beat insane odds to win the #1 pick.

How has viewership been down a ton? Just signed a massive TV contract this year. As others have said why would the other 28 owners go along with such a harmful strategy.

Y'all that think this is rigged are acting like delusional flat earthers.

Really doesn't matter what logic someone replies with - you'll find a way to connect the dots on the conspiracy.

 

[wizenheimer]

yikes!

quick...somebody call a time-out!

 

[Natebishop3]

Let’s call you a Nazi Trump supporter and see how you like it. If anything, I’d say the blind support of the NBA is more in line with the MAGA apologists who support whatever Trump does.

Are you MAGA?

 

[wizenheimer]

'reported' on RealGM:

The winning number was 10-14-11-7 and the Blazers drew 10-14-11-6......geeeeeezuz

 

[Natebishop3]

How has viewership been down a ton? Just signed a massive TV contract this year. As others have said why would the other 28 owners go along with such a harmful strategy.

Y'all that think this is rigged are acting like delusional flat earthers.

Really doesn't matter what logic someone replies with - you'll find a way to connect the dots on the conspiracy.

I posted the stats. Refute that. Where’s your data?

 

[RR7]

Let’s call you a Nazi Trump supporter and see how you like it. If anything, I’d say the blind support of the NBA is more in line with the MAGA apologists who support whatever Trump does.

Are you MAGA?

Blind support? It's a fucking sports league. I support my team.. I hope for the best. I don't spend hours and hours of my life on it and then complain about how much I hate it over the last like 10 fucking years.

 

[RR7]

'reported' on RealGM:

The winning number was 10-14-11-7 and the Blazers drew 10-14-11-6......geeeeeezuz

ItS a ConsPIraCy!1

 

[Natebishop3]

Blind support? It's a fucking sports league. I support my team.. I hope for the best. I don't spend hours and hours of my life on it and then complain about how much I hate it over the last like 10 fucking years you fucking clown.

It’s a corporation just like ENRON and Monsanto and Philip Morris. Or do you trust all corporations to do everything above board?

 

[RR7]

It’s a corporation just like ENRON and Monsanto and Philip Morris. Or do you trust all corporations to do everything above board?

I root for my team to succeed. I don't root for the NBA. It's not a matter of "trust". It's a sports league. If you don't trust it then don't spend half your life following it, covering it, posting about it, tarting a podcast about it and watching it. Fuck off and enjoy life. But you can't quit it.

 

[julius]

'reported' on RealGM:

The winning number was 10-14-11-7 and the Blazers drew 10-14-11-6......geeeeeezuz

They had the same shit happen to them a few times, iirc. I distinctly remember that happening again the year after Oden was drafted.

 

[Chris Craig]

'reported' on RealGM:

The winning number was 10-14-11-7 and the Blazers drew 10-14-11-6......geeeeeezuz

Sounds about right

 

[Natebishop3]

I root for my team to succeed. I don't root for the NBA. It's not a matter of "trust". It's a sports league. If you don't trust it then don't spend half your life following it, covering it, posting about it, tarting a podcast about it and watching it. Fuck off and enjoy life. But you can't quit it.

Because I love the Blazers and hate the fucking NBA. I hate the commissioner. I hate the refs. I hate the Lakers. If we had another pro team maybe I would fuck off. But this is all we have. We pretend that all the corrupt bullshit with superstar treatment doesn’t exist in the hopes that some day maybe we will have the superstar that gets insane favoritism. I grew up with this shit and I can’t just quit it but I don’t love it as much as I did when I was a kid.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Natebishop3]

They had the same shit happen to them a few times, iirc. I distinctly remember that happening again the year after Oden was drafted.

It happened with Wemby too.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Lakers traded for Anthony Davis months AFTER the Pelicans had the #1 pick.

Freaking tin foil hat flat earthers around here.

 

[riverman]

3 recent number one picks are all not in the playoffs now...Wemby, Zion and Ayton...it's a crap shoot folks. One of these guys should have started a dynasty already! Just draft well wherever you land and hope the system is winning, not just the rookie that's supposed to save the franchise. If it were fair the Wizards, and Nets should be getting top 4 picks but it's a crap shoot.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

The Luka trade was sketchy as fuck. They never opened it up for offers. Nobody had heard anything. He was dealt for a very mediocre haul and the Mavs have just taken it on the chin for months. Their fans are in open revolt and their ownership is being bashed by local politicians. And now suddenly they beat the odds and get the number one pick.

I don’t understand you guys. We accept that politicians are corrupt and dirty shit. We accept that corporations in big pharma and Tobacco and big agg do shady shit to make money. But the idea that the NBA would rig shit to boost viewership is completely outside the realm of possibility.

I have to agree with you on this one there is definitely some fishy shit going on. Did they rig maybe not but I definitely put the odds higher than 1.8% that they rigged it. Hell we had crooked refs at one point. NBA was having horrendous viewership this year and we are talking huge money with no signs it was going to improve next year. Think it would be foolish not to at least consider it was rigged

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

It's almost like when teams traded away their superstar it's because they sucked and had a good chance at a high lottery pick.

I mean that or some crazy flat earth conspiracy.

Let's evaluate some of the probabilities of this occurring though.

2025 Dallas -> 1.8%
2023 Spurs -> 14.0%
2019 Pels -> 6%
2015 Wolves -> 25.0%
2012 Pels -> 13.7%
2011 Cavs -> 2.8%

Most people don't understand the probabilities very well. EVERY time there was a clear-cut #1 prospect, they were sent to a team that had just lost their star (outside of Spurs).

 

[rotary111]

That Texas three step is going to be rough!
Dallas - adds #1 Flagg
San Antonio - Wemby plus #2 ?
Houston - playoffs plus #10 ?

 

[Chris Craig]

3 recent number one picks are all not in the playoffs now...Wemby, Zion and Ayton...it's a crap shoot folks. One of these guys should have started a dynasty already! Just draft well wherever you land and hope the system is winning, not just the rookie

Wemby will be in probably next year

Pelicans are in the lowest tier of teams that the NBA doesn't care about. The Suns got to the finals then got screwed over by their GM. Now, of course Ayton is on the Blazers where will never win anything. Though, he might get moved to the Lakers or something and get his.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The Luka trade was sketchy as fuck. They never opened it up for offers. Nobody had heard anything. He was dealt for a very mediocre haul and the Mavs have just taken it on the chin for months. Their fans are in open revolt and their ownership is being bashed by local politicians. And now suddenly they beat the odds and get the number one pick.

I don’t understand you guys. We accept that politicians are corrupt and dirty shit. We accept that corporations in big pharma and Tobacco and big agg do shady shit to make money. But the idea that the NBA would rig shit to boost viewership is completely outside the realm of possibility.

The NBA is run by the 30 owners. Those owners are Adam Silver boss. Yeah thinking they'd have some conspiracy to help one freaking franchise is insane.

Look at what happened when the league had direct control of a franchise. They vetod a trade of CP3 to the Lakers. Went out of their way to stop superstar from joining the Lakers. Look at the 2nd apron rules and countless other things to artificially help small markets.

Yeah I think your opinions are beyond delusional and completely irrational.

Now people are saying Zion was rigged too, and NBA fixed to get the Spurs Wemby. Both tiny markets. Pelicans won the lottery prior to Davis trade. I swear no matter what happened youd be crying about some conspiracy.

 

[Natebishop3]

Lakers traded for Anthony Davis months AFTER the Pelicans had the #1 pick.

Freaking tin foil hat flat earthers around here.

I love that you’re comparing a scientifically proven fact that the earth is round because we have been to space and we have photos…. To something that is controlled by a corporation and directly impacts revenue.

What is the benefit of lying about the earth being flat or round? Who gains from that? Now tell me who gains from Luka in LA and the Mavs getting the #1 pick?

A better comparison would be Fox News… do you think they only tell the truth? Do you like to watch Fox? Do you think they’re a trustworthy news station? Are they your favorite?

 

[Chris Craig]

The NBA is run by the 30 owners. Those owners are Adam Silver boss. Yeah thinking they'd have some conspiracy to help one freaking franchise is insane.

Look at what happened when the league had direct control of a franchise. They vetod a trade of CP3 to the Lakers. Went out of their way to stop superstar from joining the Lakers. Look at the 2nd apron rules and countless other things to artificially help small markets.

Yeah I think your opinions are beyond delusional and completely irrational.

They have no real control over what Silver and the league does.

Stern overrode that trade not to make the owners happy, but to try and make the New Orleans team, new to the league relevant.

 

[Natebishop3]

The NBA is run by the 30 owners. Those owners are Adam Silver boss. Yeah thinking they'd have some conspiracy to help one freaking franchise is insane.

Look at what happened when the league had direct control of a franchise. They vetod a trade of CP3 to the Lakers. Went out of their way to stop superstar from joining the Lakers. Look at the 2nd apron rules and countless other things to artificially help small markets.

Yeah I think your opinions are beyond delusional and completely irrational.

I think the 30 owners like to make money and have a successful league. Viewership is way down from the 90s. Progressively worse over the past 30 years.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Don’t call me a Trump supporter mother fucker. I voted for Harris and I find that extremely offensive with that he’s doing in this country.

Well your displaying the critical thinking of one... So seems to me to be about as useful to our country as being a Trump supporter.