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As long as he can be coached that's the kind of attitude you want from a guy with superstar potential. Sounds like some shit Ant Edwards would say.
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What’s the obsession teams have with drafting 18y/0 players? By the time they breakout they will ask out and go to a major market. Or they never break out.
Whats wrong with a really good 22y/o?
Blazers main focus is finding one more guy to match up with the "under 24 year old" core. In 4-5 years, they'll all break out and be in their primes together.
Otherwise, 22 year olds are expected to dominate and outscore younger competition. However, if they're 22 and still not showing anything extra like Brandon Roy might've, it's hard to see them developing more.
Imo, I think Yaxel Lendeborg is a good 22 year old prospect because he showcases defensive skills (he was DPOY twice in his conference) and shooting+playmaking skills. Those are very well rounded skills that make him closer to, say, what Roy was as a 22 year old.
As for 18 year olds? Nowadays, 18 year olds that do well against legitimate competition means they have a stronger likelihood of being special. This is in contrast to the prep to pro players, from back in the 90s/2000s, that were a major gamble because you couldn't test them out against legitimate competition. College weeds a lot of those guys out nowadays and exposes their weaknesses. Hence, Andrew Wiggins lost his next Kobe/T-Mac hype.
Cooper Flagg being able to do what he does as a 17 year old - against Team USA and against college athletes - is phenomenal and practically makes him a special prospect on par with Zion and AD.
Noa Esssengue is also similar (but probably more along the Rudy Gay/Tayshaun Prince tier). 17 turned 18 years old and he just put up an all-around 20ppg performance during the playoffs (and previously put up 20 points against the Blazers, this season, too).
Hyped to the max…hype exposure can produce just what you bring up.Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey are projected to go #2 and #3 on most mock drafts. Both were on a Rutgers team that went 8-12 in the B1G conference and 15-17 overall. Both did not make the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd all-conference teams. They were recognized as ‘honorable mention’.
Honest question - if they are such good NBA prospects, why didn’t Rutgers do better, and why weren’t they individually recognized?
Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey are projected to go #2 and #3 on most mock drafts. Both were on a Rutgers team that went 8-12 in the B1G conference and 15-17 overall. Both did not make the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd all-conference teams. They were recognized as ‘honorable mention’.
Honest question - if they are such good NBA prospects, why didn’t Rutgers do better, and why weren’t they individually recognized?
True. Although 3 other freshmen made B1G all-conference teams (Derik Queen, Jase Richardson, and Kasparas Jakucionis). And although basketball is a team game, there are only 5 guys on the court. One great player can take over a game. Put 2 top-3 NBA picks on the floor at the same time and I would think you'd see at least a winning team.Freshmen and its a team game.
You must not have watched them play this year. They can ball. The other 10 players on the team are Girl Scouts. Horrible teammates can only help you so much when the top players are triple teamed.Hyped to the max…hype exposure can produce just what you bring up.
Hold on, you are using all conference accolades to judge a players talent. That ain’t getting you far my man. Go back and look at the college all America lists for the past 10 years and tell me where on this planet the majority of them are playing.True. Although 3 other freshmen made B1G all-conference teams (Derik Queen, Jase Richardson, and Kasparas Jakucionis). And although basketball is a team game, there are only 5 guys on the court. One great player can take over a game. Put 2 top-3 NBA picks on the floor at the same time and I would think you'd see at least a winning team.
Hold on, you are using all conference accolades to judge a players talent. That ain’t getting you far my man. Go back and look at the college all America lists for the past 10 years and tell me where on this planet the majority of them are playing.
PreachHorrible teammates can only help you so much when the top players are triple teamed.
I don't hate this but unless Ant is gone, I don't want a guy that can be more redundant with all of our guards.I'd like to see a second frp for whichever of Ant, Grant, or Ayton can get us one. I want a guy to push Shaedon and be able to start if he gets hurt or whatever. Perfect options are Nique Clifford and Coward.
With the newly acquired frp, I want to see a depth piece but not necessarily a project. A legit backup PG (I think Walter Clayton would be perfect), wing depth (Lendeborg, Fleming, Carter, Essengue, Thiero, lot's of choices) or a big (Raynaud, Sorber).
The guys I don't want to hear are Queen, Knueppel, Penda, Beringer, Wolf. At least not where any of them are projected.
The worst possible move would be trading out, IMO. The two ways Portland has historically added real talent is screwing somebody in a trade or the draft. We aren't winning any titles for a few years minimum, so I hope they rely on the draft and like one of the names I listed.
I watched them against the Ducks and they looked mediocre. And I don't remember them being triple teamed or even double teamed. And the three guys starting with them shot 11 for 15 so how bad could they be?Nope. I'm only stating what I stated. "Honest question - if they are such good NBA prospects, why didn’t Rutgers do better, and why weren’t they individually recognized?"
I didn't watch any Ruter games this year, so I was a bit surprised to see 2 top NBA prospects on the same team, and that team have a losing record.
I recognize the B1G conference has a ton of 5 and 6 year seniors that will get many of these awards, and their college production won't translate to the NBA. With that being said, I would have though that a #2 and #3 draft pick would have gotten a bit more recognition than 'honorable mention'.
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11. Portland Trail Blazers
Egor Demin, PG/SG, BYU
Freshman | TS%: 51.3
Combine measurements:
Height without shoes: 6-9¼ | Weight: 199
Standing reach: 8-9½ | Wingspan: 6-10¼
Intel and fit: Demin had a positive week at the combine in Chicago, measuring bigger than expected at 6-9½ in shoes and then putting on one of the most impressive pro day performances we've seen in some time, causing even the most skeptical of NBA evaluators to acknowledge his undeniable talent.
Demin has made significant gains with his body and will continue to fill out, while making a barrage of 3-pointers with picture-perfect mechanics and a lightning-quick release that offered significant room for optimism despite hitting 27% of his 3-pointers in his lone season at BYU. Also, NBA teams raved about his interviews in Chicago.
The Trail Blazers can go in several directions with this pick, and adding a big guard with a strong feel for the game who can slide into different roster configurations could be interesting long term. -- Givony
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...ks-post-combine-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks
probably the best passer in the draft??Damn he's huge. Sounds like high upside. Me likey.
probably the best passer in the draft??
It's not.Yes, without a doubt. So you're telling me he's 6-11 in shoes? This seems not real. No?
NIQUE!!If we "somehow" get the 16th pick (currently held by Orlando), who would you select?
You have said about a dozen different names that they should select. Will you narrow that down by draft day?NIQUE!!
If we "somehow" get the 16th pick (currently held by Orlando), who would you select?
I'd be very interested in Sorber.