OT 23 and Me

[Fez Hammersticks]

Has anyone tried this or any dna analysis?

My grandfathers on both sides I always though were of Irish descent - my results were overwhelmingly British with some German/French - Irish results were >2%

I don't know how accurate these are or how "statistical noise" comes into play.

If you watched the George Lopez show - it's the same test he uses on celebs.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Did you do the test that tells you what diseases/health problems are in your genetics?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I didn't get those - just where I link.

 

[santeesioux]

Here's mine

British & Irish26.5%
French & German12.2%
Scandinavian4.2%
Finnish1.2%
Broadly Northwestern European27.3%
Southern European3.6%
Iberian1.4%
Italian0.5%
Sardinian< 0.1%
Broadly Southern European1.7%
Eastern European1.5%
Ashkenazi Jewish0.2%
Broadly European2.6%

Native American19.9%
East Asian< 0.1%
Broadly East Asian< 0.1%
Broadly East Asian & Native American0.5%

There's definitely some weird shit going on with mine because I know I'm 1/4th Scandinavian, but it only shows up as 4 percent when broadly Northwestern European has a fuckload that I know is Swedish and Finnish.

 

[santeesioux]

I show up as 16 percent Iberian on the Ancestry.com one for some reason too.

 

[theprunetang]

I have an aunt that got really into genealogy. She got dna from all across family lines. We are all pretty much Portuguese and Welsh.

 

[santeesioux]

I have an aunt that got really into genealogy. She got dna from all across family lines. We are all pretty much Portuguese and Welsh.

My uncle got really into it twenty years ago and now my whole family is really into it. They can take my Swedish side almost back to the vikings.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

My uncle got really into it twenty years ago and now my whole family is really into it. They can take my Swedish side almost back to the vikings.

Interesting, typically Native Americans are very anti DNA research.

 

[santeesioux]

Interesting, typically Native Americans are very anti DNA research.

I wasn't raised traditional or anything because all of that stuff was lost in my family for a while since they fled up to Oregon, and I'm an atheist, so I'm all about science. My cousin is a Mormon Indian. Imagine believing your own people were evil.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I wasn't raised traditional or anything, and I'm an atheist, so I'm all about science. My cousin is a Mormon Indian. Imagine believing your own people were evil.

Not one Native American tribe will accept DNA instead of blood quantum.

 

[santeesioux]

Not one Native American tribe will accept DNA instead of blood quantum.

My tribe goes by census rolls literally off of 2 women from the 1800s. They don't want anyone new coming in to take their successful casino money, lol.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

My tribe goes by census rolls literally off of 2 women from the 1800s. They don't want anyone new coming in to take their successful casino money, lol.

The Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla are similar.

 

[santeesioux]

The Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla are similar.

Looks like my tribe does it by DNA testing now too:

is open to biological lineal descendants of Pamela Adams or Annie Hill Murray Paris- evidenced through DNA testing. Currently, the Tribe only accepts applications for “individuals age zero to 24 months.” This means you must submit an application to enroll your child in the Tribe before they turn 2 years old, otherwise they will not be enrolled. In order to make it easier on parents to enroll their children, the Tribe will now have open enrollment during the entire year. Applications will be approved year round.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

My tribe goes by census rolls literally off of 2 women from the 1800s. They don't want anyone new coming in to take their successful casino money, lol.

What's fascinating is that about 10 years ago when they were expanding the port at Port Angeles they found a very well preserved indian village that was pancaked by a tsunami. Art, basket types, and clothing was unlike anything used by any of the current NW tribes. Basket, clothing and language of the tribes here have many similarities to tribes on the east coast.

When Columbus "discovered" America it introduced diseases that quickly killed 80-90% of the North American native population, there is a theory that when this started the natives on the east coast started quickly moving west. Which makes sense, if 90% of Portland suddenly died off I sure as hell would get the fuck out of here. Anyway, you have a sudden exodus of people who are not welcome moving west with the only option is the kill, be killed or stay and die (and sadly bringing disease with them.) So the tribes currently here in the PNW are not the ones who originally occupied the area pre-Columbus. The simple narrative of "this is our ancestors land" kinda goes out the window. That's why local tribes fought to prevent DNA testing of the Kennewick Man and comparison testing of their own tribes. What if they don't match?

Personally I think it's an amazing story of survival but I can understand why their is resistance to DNA testing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Currently, the Tribe only accepts applications for “individuals age zero to 24 months.”

That's a pretty short window.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/...s-show-kennewick-man-was-native-american.html

 

[santeesioux]

That's a pretty short window.

Like I said, they don't want a bunch of people coming out of the wood work to take their casino money.

 

[Sinobas]

I've had that test. You can actually download your DNA and upload it another site (for free) that will use a different criteria to match your dna to a location. Last I had heard, 23andme uses it's own members, who state they have a know ancestory to a certain area as the basis for your ancestory profile.

There is an underlying issue with trying to peg dna to a region. For example, what is an Englishman? That island has had incursions Romans, germanic Saxons, the vikings etc. It was taken over by the Normans, who came from modern day France, but Normandy was originally a Viking settlement.

But I found my test to be pretty accurate. 99.9% northern european 50% german, the other half was british/irish/scandinavian. I know that is generally accurate based on my geneology.