Trade Idea #3 (and filler) for Zion - would you do it?

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Would you trade the #3/Ant/filler for Zion?

  • Yes - absolutely

    Votes: 22 29.7%

  • Maybe - depends on who goes out

    Votes: 16 21.6%

  • No way!

    Votes: 36 48.6%
  • Total voters
    74
TBpup said:
Quite right. There are weight/body fat % requirements for him to get the full amount of the contract.
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This right here. This helps to take on the risk of Zion. Zion is a talent you take a chance on, kinda like what the Raptors did with Kawhi, they took the chance, only got him for one year but in the end it was worth it, they got a ring. It could have not worked, but you don't know till you try, and Zion will be locked up for 5 years at least. You take that chance when you have someone like Dame on your team. Push all the chips in and try your best.

Plus, Zion must know what Portland is about already, he did his rehab here in Portland in early 2022.

"While the Pelicans did not announce the location, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that Williamson is doing his rehab in Portland, Oregon"
 
Chris Craig said:
The idea of a healthy Zion and a chance to be a contender is intriguing. If it's true though that NO is done with him, and not willing to bet on him into the future that's a huge red flag. Zion continues to be injured season after season and has played such a miniscule percentage of games. He is currently embroiled in baby mama drama. He has a GF and a porn star he is been sleeping around with, not to mention at least one other woman who also claimed to have slept with him. This shows a total lack of maturity on his part.

After enduring decades of broken big men and repairing an ill reputed era of Blazer basketball, do the Blazers really want to go there?

It's a huge risk. The Blazers do need to go all in. But, Cronin needs to realize if he does this, he hold the cards and must get more back in the deal like Jones and a 1st.
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I don't get why Zion sleeping around is being talked about. I think 95% of professional athletes do this. Maybe him knocking one of them up isn't the worst thing because maybe it gets him to grow up a little. Oh and of course it shows immaturity. The dude is 22, he's been a star who has everyone catering to him since he was like 17 and the bigger show of immaturity is that he isn't taking his profession seriously. That being said people do mature... having a kid and getting traded might just be the wake up call the guy needs, that and becoming teammates with Dame.
 
illmatic99 said:
I'm not following this thought process. If drafting a prospect like Scoot is as risky as having Zion, what is NO's motivation ot make such a deal? And keep in mind they have more info on Zion than any other team.
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Zion is a known risk, but look at players who were considered can’t miss, or guys who had injuries kill their careers, or even guys like Len Bias. EVERY player is a risk
 
Mediocre Man said:
Zion is a known risk, but look at players who were considered can’t miss, or guys who had injuries kill their careers, or even guys like Len Bias. EVERY player is a risk
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You're not really answering my question. If you know what you do about Zion and he was on your team, would you give him up for Scoot? What I'm getting at is NO feels like drafting an unknown in Scoot is better than keeping a seemingly broken Zion. If healthy, his ceiling is multiple times higher than anyone in this draft.
 
illmatic99 said:
You're not really answering my question. If you know what you do about Zion and he was on your team, would you give him up for Scoot? What I'm getting at is NO feels like drafting an unknown in Scoot is better than keeping a seemingly broken Zion. If healthy, his ceiling is multiple times higher than anyone in this draft.
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I'd do it if I felt like as an organization we hadn't been able to get through to him and especially if I was in need of a dynamic, freak athlete PG to initiate our offense. I would also trade Scoot for Zion if I felt like my organization could get through to him and I didn't need a starting PG.
 
illmatic99 said:
You're not really answering my question. If you know what you do about Zion and he was on your team, would you give him up for Scoot? What I'm getting at is NO feels like drafting an unknown in Scoot is better than keeping a seemingly broken Zion. If healthy, his ceiling is multiple times higher than anyone in this draft.
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What we don't/can't know is how much of "what they know" is actually just what they want to get out from under? Zion continuing his career in NO and Zion getting traded to Portland aren't apples:apples in terms of situations. Zion won't be able to call the shots in Portland, he'll be accountable to Dame; Zion's entourage won't have the access they do in NO, etc.

Certainly there's some amount of "they know what they have/who he is", but there's also plenty of "they can't get away from the monster they created", and invariably, that monster can't come with him to Portland (it trying to regrow itself is certainly possible, but that, then becomes our own, unique, problem where we don't have to handle it the way they did).

No one is saying Zion isn't a risk. They're saying he's a risk worth betting on.
 
Gronk_Brady said:
If you want to get Dame a title, this is the deal you have to make and hope it works out. Bridges and Siakam have zero chance to bring us a title.
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Youll complain if they do the deal and it doesnt work out and youll complain if they dont. Just so you know what you'll be doing.
 
Funny how a couple weeks changes things. I posted a suggested deal with Lillard and Little going for Ingram and Zion and got a lot of push back on them trading Zion. I remember saying ack then that maybe they would consider it because they were tired of his attitude/injuries. More of a restart for them. And now that it has come out as possibility, I have actually changed my mind on it. I would for a player and the #23 pick, but not for the #3 pick or pick and player and I am the guy that suggested Jonathon Isaac at the deadline...lol.
 
I have no issue trading the 3 to get a talent which Zion is. All-NBA kind of talent. If, and its a big damn if no pun intended, he can stay healthy. I said it when he came out of college that his playing style of being a bruiser and whatever else you want to call it would mean he would have a lot of injury problems and lo and behold, he has.

I would prefer someone with a bit better injury history tbh.
 
Sloth said:
I have no issue trading the 3 to get a talent which Zion is. All-NBA kind of talent. If, and its a big damn if no pun intended, he can stay healthy. I said it when he came out of college that his playing style of being a bruiser and whatever else you want to call it would mean he would have a lot of injury problems and lo and behold, he has.

I would prefer someone with a bit better injury history tbh.
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I don't think it's his playing style, I just think he's carrying too much weight. If he drops 30 plus pounds he'll be able to bang and high fly and stay healthy IMO.
 
illmatic99 said:
I'm not following this thought process. If drafting a prospect like Scoot is as risky as having Zion, what is NO's motivation ot make such a deal? And keep in mind they have more info on Zion than any other team.
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This question could be raised about nearly every trade, but I think it's a good one. No deal involving a draft pick comes without real risk and the same can be true with Zion moving forward.

For the NOP, and the upcoming FA of Jones in a year, and then Ingram in the following year, combined with CJs contract, they may want to get off Zion's 5 year deal.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't think it's his playing style, I just think he's carrying too much weight. If he drops 30 plus pounds he'll be able to bang and high fly and stay healthy IMO.
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Fair enough. I will support any player who wears the red and black and if that happens to be Zion, will just cross my fingers and hope he can stay healthy enough to make us a contender.
 
Sloth said:
I have no issue trading the 3 to get a talent which Zion is. All-NBA kind of talent. If, and its a big damn if no pun intended, he can stay healthy. I said it when he came out of college that his playing style of being a bruiser and whatever else you want to call it would mean he would have a lot of injury problems and lo and behold, he has.

I would prefer someone with a bit better injury history tbh.
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I agree that it would be much nicer with someone with a better injury history with Zion. It would also be nice to have someone with All-NBA abilities. Zion without an injury history would be unobtainable for Portland. All part of the risk assessment they would have to make.
 
This is crazy... The potential is making me waver... or is it? The thought of pairing Dame and Zion...it instantly catapults us into the next tier...but the weight, the injuries, and the fact he spits in at least one woman's mouth, I don't know...it's so confusing...
 
Propagandist said:
This is crazy... The potential is making me waver... or is it? The thought of pairing Dame and Zion...it instantly catapults us into the next tier...but the weight, the injuries, and the fact he spits in at least one woman's mouth, I don't know...it's so confusing...
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Who the fuck cares about what people do in their personal life as long as it isn't assault and it's consensual?
 
illmatic99 said:
No it couldn't. When was the last time a team traded away a 22 yr old all nba caliber talent locked into a long term deal?
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The question you asked, as I read it, was about the risk of asset A vs asset B, and why the parties involved would do a swap.

In this case, I believe you have an injury prone player who has also proven, in NBA games, that he has 1st team All-NBA abilities. On the other hand, we've got Scoot, who appears to have a lot of great qualities, along with some questionable ones, none of which have been tested at the NBA level. Some front offices may see the risk of Scoot being much higher, while others may be more confident in their evaluation of him. If NOP feels Scoot is going to be an MVP level player, hasn't shown to have the injury issues as Zion, and is on a rookie deal, then I could see why they might do it. Portland, on the other hand, may not see Scoot as an MVP level player down the road, and may think Zion's injury records are not a major concern long term. Of course, we're having to make a ton of assumptions to even attempt to answer the question.

Two teams valuing assets differently isn't that wild. It's the main reason trades happen.
 
bemac said:
You do realize that there are MPG stats on every sports website and that these stats show that this claim of yours is total BS, right? Where do people come up with this shit?
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a) there's fans that think Coach Billups is amazing.
b) there's fans that think Coach Billups stinks.
c) there's fans that stay neutral.
d) there's fans that don't follow the team much, and read some stats to create argumentative scenarios.

.... I'm clearly a (b) Blazer fan, which one are you?
 
Whyachi said:
a) there's fans that think Coach Billups is amazing.
b) there's fans that think Coach Billups stinks.
c) there's fans that stay neutral.
d) there's fans that don't follow the team much, and read some stats to create argumentative scenarios.

.... I'm clearly a (b) Blazer fan, which one are you?
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I think you troll a lot because if not your takes are some of the wackest in this forum.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Zion is a known risk, but look at players who were considered can’t miss, or guys who had injuries kill their careers, or even guys like Len Bias. EVERY player is a risk
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Every player is not the same risk just like every player is not the same talent.
 
illmatic99 said:
You're not really answering my question. If you know what you do about Zion and he was on your team, would you give him up for Scoot? What I'm getting at is NO feels like drafting an unknown in Scoot is better than keeping a seemingly broken Zion. If healthy, his ceiling is multiple times higher than anyone in this draft.
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This team is hell bent on appeasing Dame
 
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