Notice 5 Updated Kyrie Irving Trade Packages Cleveland Cavaliers Should Consider (3 Blazers deals)

[BigGameDamian]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-packages-cleveland-cavaliers-should-consider

 

[SheedSoNasty]

For Lillard or CJ... no thanks.

 

[H.C.]

I ignored this BR report for the entirety of the day yesterday.
Why the hell I decided it was worth the read today is beyond my comprehension.

 

[BonesJones]

I read this yesterday and have already told the author how stupid he is. Why post crap like this? It's an awful article.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I guess this would be some trades Neil could make that would really piss some people off but work out aright in the end.

 

[BonesJones]

I guess this would be some trades Neil could make that would really piss some people off but work out aright in the end.

All of these trades make us worse and put us in a worse situation.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We should do all of them!

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

I saw the headline on B/R and resisted opening it and reading it. I stopped because although I think Kyrie Irving has unbelievable talent and can get really hot shooting the ball, he ISN'T the leader that Dame is. He also isn't a SG, so between the two of our guys - I wouldn't consider trading for Kyrie because he is NOT an upgrade at either position IMO.

Dame is almost as talented, but IS a better leader (proven).
CJ serves as a better SG and is best buds with Dame.
Why mess this up?

K.I. isn't the answer.

 

[H.C.]

All of these trades make us worse and put us in a worse situation.

But Kyrie Irving is uncle drew! and he has finals experience and and he hit a shot. - BGD

 

[H.C.]

real question, who has better handles.
The Professor, or Irving?

 

[dviss1]

Fake news like this makes me wanna punch the air...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fake news like this makes me wanna punch the air...

This is why we can't have nice air.

 

[Gronk Brady]

On talent alone, Kyrie is the better player, and he is 2 years younger with Championship experience... but Dame is the heart and soul of this team and his combination of talent, loyalty, and character is rare. No way I would trade Dame for a guy like Kyrie... especially after seeing the video of him laughing at his teammate being mocked by their rival.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

I read this yesterday and have already told the author how stupid he is. Why post crap like this? It's an awful article.

Because what we have to say is so much more important? I hope you didn't actually call him stupid over his opinion.

 

[dviss1]

One word:

Health.

/Thread.

 

[blue9]

On talent alone, Kyrie is the better player, and he is 2 years younger with Championship experience... but Dame is the heart and soul of this team and his combination of talent, loyalty, and character is rare. No way I would trade Dame for a guy like Kyrie... especially after seeing the video of him laughing at his teammate being mocked by their rival.

This brings up a question: Who is more bitchmade, Kyrie or Durant?

 

[Minstrel]

On talent alone, Kyrie is the better player

On talent alone, they are almost identical players. Irving is a better finisher, Lillard has deeper range. Otherwise, they're basically equally productive on offense and poor on defense. In this era, I'd take Lillard's near-Curry-like range over Irving's better finishing.

 

[Rhal]

On talent alone, they are almost identical players. Irving is a better finisher, Lillard has deeper range. Otherwise, they're basically equally productive on offense and poor on defense. In this era, I'd take Lillard's near-Curry-like range over Irving's better finishing.

I'll put Lillards durability up there as well. Lillard has had some bad luck with bad falls ect but Irving seems to miss a lot of games every other year. Also Lillard is as productive as irving while not getting consistent wide open all the time and being the option defenses are looking to stop while Irving gets open looks because the defensive is to focused on the best player in the NBA that plays alongside Irving.

 

[BBert]

On talent alone, they are almost identical players. Irving is a better finisher, Lillard has deeper range. Otherwise, they're basically equally productive on offense and poor on defense. In this era, I'd take Lillard's near-Curry-like range over Irving's better finishing.

Lillard's range + Lillard's leadership + Lillard's durability + Lillard's loyalty = Lillard >>>>Irving.

No contest.

 

[BigGameDamian]

All of these trades make us worse and put us in a worse situation.

Ok Neil.

 

[Reep]

To be fair, the article did say it was about trades the Cavs should consider, not trades the Blazers should consider.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Also Lillard is as productive as irving while not getting consistent wide open all the time and being the option defenses are looking to stop while Irving gets open looks because the defensive is to focused on the best player in the NBA that plays alongside Irving.

This is the difference to me. Kyrie has had the privilege of playing alongside (arguably) the most defense-altering player alive, who also happens to have amazing court-vision. Dame has been responsible for creating the vast majority of his own offense from day 1. Yet their advanced stats are nearly identical. When 1 player is in a harder conference, in a tougher situation, and is equally productive, it's not unreasonable to assume that player is better.

 

[e_blazer]

This is why we can't have nice air.

That and the fact that HCP won't lay off of the refried beans.

 

[e_blazer]

One word:

Health.

/Thread.

One other word: Loyalty.

Dame wants to be here. Everybody who thinks that Kyrie is going to plan on playing out his career in Portland, raise your hand.

 

[dviss1]

One other word: Loyalty.

Dame wants to be here. Everybody who thinks that Kyrie is going to plan on playing out his career in Portland, raise your hand.

 

[Minstrel]

@Loyalty4Life

 

[BBert]

To be fair, the article did say it was about trades the Cavs should consider, not trades the Blazers should consider.

That it was.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Not a hot topic huh?

 

[SIeepwalker]

Not a hot topic huh?

"3 Dumbass trades the Blazers wouldn't do in a million years" is not a hot topic. How fucking surprising

 

[BonesJones]

Because what we have to say is so much more important? I hope you didn't actually call him stupid over his opinion.

It's a stupid opinion, and if the author thinks it'd be a good move to trade Dame for Kyrie, he doesn't know Portland, doesn't watch enough basketball, and doesn't understand the difference in contract situations, thus making him uneducated on the topic, thus making his opinion stupid.