9 point quarter

[riverman]

I think that's a cop out.

watch the replay...poor exectution down the stretch...ever see Meyers brick two free throws in a row? Our team shot 50% from the line...we lost by one point...I'm just the messenger...the cop out was the end game

 

[riverman]

, it shouldn't take a perfect game from your players.

they scored 9pts.....that's pretty far from a perfect game

 

[BBert]

Nurkic and Collins were being called for a lot of stuff, no doubt. It wasnt called consistently on both ends in my opinion either. The Blazers did a lot of the damage to themselves though. Turnovers, overall sloppy play, stretches of bad defense, they choked pretty hard today.

Missed free throws. Twice guys went to the line and missed both.

 

[BBert]

watch the replay...poor exectution down the stretch...ever see Meyers brick two free throws in a row? Our team shot 50% from the line...we lost by one point...I'm just the messenger...the cop out was the end game

Yep. Despite everything else, if the Blazers had made a normal percentage, they would have won.

 

[BBert]

I didn't say Layman outplayed Harkless but that's irrelevant. Hood probably played Luka better than anyone on the team, including Mo. You can't have Layman out there (or Hood) and expect them to produce amazing results when they aren't getting many opportunities. Clearly both are known as offensive weapons. No use in having them out there if you're not preaching ball movement so those guys can take advantage of possible mismatches. Like Nurk tonight, he should have gotten WAY more than 11 shots when they literally had no one who could guard him.

We have a low IQ coach who isn't trying to exploit mismatches.

I lost in when the Blazers inbounded from a time out, then ran a play to set up Evan Fucking Turner for a long three. Evan Turner. Not even from the corner. A 45 degree angle from the longest part of the arc. Evan Fucking Turner. That's when I said fire the coach now haha.

Oh, yeah. He missed.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I lost in when the Blazers inbounded from a time out, then ran a play to set up Evan Fucking Turner for a long three. Evan Turner. Not even from the corner. A 45 degree angle from the longest part of the arc. Evan Fucking Turner. That's when I said fire the coach now haha.

Oh, yeah. He missed.

Disgusting. Remember how many more threes our coach forced Turner to put up last year? Truly unbelievable stuff that an NBA coach can actually ask a horrid three point shooter like Turner to keep putting them up. The horror.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Didn't watch the game, but this tells you everything you need to know. The Fixster was in. People like @Mediocre Man can say whatever they want, but fact is NBA's oldest trick in the book is to get a key big in foul trouble, changes everything.

So the NBA is out to get us?

 

[HailBlazers]

So the NBA is out to get us?

The referring is not equal.

 

[TBpup]

The referring is not equal.

To what are you referring?

 

[tlongII]

So the NBA is out to get us?

Well the refs got us last night. That's indisputable. We outrebounded them by 9, yet shot 9 less free throws than they did. They were not calling the same fouls on both ends of the court.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well the refs got us last night. That's indisputable. We outrebounded them by 9, yet shot 9 less free throws than they did. They were not calling the same fouls on both ends of the court.

Agree completely. They hate us, and it's all fixed. We should sue like Saints fans

 

[tlongII]

Agree completely. They hate us, and it's all fixed. We should sue like Saints fans

They hated us yesterday.

 

[HailBlazers]

To what are you referring?

Me posting during a work meeting.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Show me where Dame requested a move and what kind.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/23/...rumors-trail-blazers-paul-allen-meeting-owner

 

[Sheldon Shape]

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/23/...rumors-trail-blazers-paul-allen-meeting-owner

But what did he ask for and how do we know Olshey hasn't gotten him what he's wanted since the time of the meeting?

 

[Mediocre Man]

But what did he ask for and how do we know Olshey hasn't gotten him what he's wanted since the time of the meeting?

I can tell you with certainty that he has not.

 

[Mediocre Man]

They hated us yesterday.

Yes. Those refs wanted the Mavs to win for sure. My guess is all 3 have an invention they need funding, and all hate homeless people who drink coffee

 

[tlongII]

Yes. Those refs wanted the Mavs to win for sure. My guess is all 3 have an invention they need funding, and all hate homeless people who drink coffee

All I know is that they fucked us over. I have no idea of any incentive for doing so.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

But what did he ask for and how do we know Olshey hasn't gotten him what he's wanted since the time of the meeting?

He wanted to be assured as to the direction of the franchise. It doesn't take rocket science that he wanted a more competitive roster because Lillard wants to compete for a championship. That would mean making moves. Its almost pathetic that the team core hasn't changed much. Straight up, Neil Olshey isn't making moves to make this a championship team. Ain't no doubt about that. He's making moves so they are right in that sweet middle spot.

If he asked Olshey to make minor changes to the squad so the team team would get embarrassed in the playoffs, then I guess he would have gotten what he asked for.

 

[hoopsjock]

He wanted to be assured as to the direction of the franchise. It doesn't take rocket science that he wanted a more competitive roster because Lillard wants to compete for a championship. That would mean making moves. Its almost pathetic that the team core hasn't changed much. Straight up, Neil Olshey isn't making moves to make this a championship team. Ain't no doubt about that. He's making moves so they are right in that sweet middle spot.

If he asked Olshey to make minor changes to the squad so the team team would get embarrassed in the playoffs, then I guess he would have gotten what he asked for.

Not taking sides but it's entirely possible that what came of the meeting was that Allen would go All-In if an opportunity presented itself before 2020 and if not he would give Olshey the authority to do whatever it took that summer. This would explain why Jody was willing to take on an "astronomical salary" at the deadline. Even if Dame wanted a big change that would likely be at the expense of CJ and I doubt he would go to the owner to trade his friend.

My best guess is that Allen told Dame he was avoiding the tax until a big move was available.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

CJ isn't even a close to being an allstar, there's no way he shouldn't be untouchable. Olshey has made minimal moves, when you have a first team all NBA talent on your team, that's disgraceful to not even try to make a championship team.

 

[hoopsjock]

CJ isn't even a close to being an allstar, there's no way he shouldn't be untouchable. Olshey has made minimal moves, when you have a first team all NBA talent on your team, that's disgraceful to not even try to make a championship team.

I agree with this, but it's entirely possible that First Team All-NBA talent is the reason why CJ is untouchable.

 

[TBpup]

I agree with this, but it's entirely possible that First Team All-NBA talent is the reason why CJ is untouchable.

That could very well be....and until that is remedied, this team isn't going anywhere. I've been on that train for 3 years now and don't see anything that is going to change my mind anytime soon.

 

[hoopsjock]

That could very well be....and until that is remedied, this team isn't going anywhere. I've been on that train for 3 years now and don't see anything that is going to change my mind anytime soon.

We all blame Olshey on this but I'll bet you Dame says something like "CJ and I need help!" not "I need help!"

 

[Blazers Roy]

"Trade CJ trade CJ blah blah blah"

FOR WHO??? Tobias Harris?


Lillard is 29 this summer. Unless you think we can win a championship within the next 3 years with him as the leader, there's a case to be made for blowing it ALL up this summer.

 

[TBpup]

We all blame Olshey on this but I'll bet you Dame says something like "CJ and I need help!" not "I need help!"

Sadly, if he is adamant on it being him and CJ, that is 40% of your lineup that requires defensive help at almost every turn and put a huge amount of pressure on your bigs in terms of defensive presence and picking up fouls guarding other team's PG/SG.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

"Trade CJ trade CJ blah blah blah"

FOR WHO??? Tobias Harris?


Lillard is 29 this summer. Unless you think we can win a championship within the next 3 years with him as the leader, there's a case to be made for blowing it ALL up this summer.

I truly believe if we had a GM that had vision, balls and the desire to win a ring, a team could be built around Lillard that can win a championship.

 

[Blazers Roy]

I truly believe if we had a GM that had vision, balls and the desire to win a ring, a team could be built around Lillard that can win a championship.

It's not that easy to climb onto top tier.
Maybe if the Spurs preferred CJ over DeRozan which is unlikely... Pritchard also seemed to be too biased to trade PG for CJ.

Right now i feel as if the train has passed. The build is too weak and too flawed in order to soar high enough and Dame is approaching 30 with a supermax contract in sight.

The fan in me wants to see Dame in rip city forever, even after his retirement, but it makes more sense to rebuild.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It's not that easy to climb onto top tier.
Maybe if the Spurs preferred CJ over DeRozan which is unlikely... Pritchard also seemed to be too biased to trade PG for CJ.

Right now i feel as if the train has passed. The build is too weak and too flawed in order to soar high enough and Dame is approaching 30 with a supermax contract in sight.

The fan in me wants to see Dame in rip city forever, even after his retirement, but it makes more sense to rebuild.

Completely asinine when the Front office hasn't even tried.

 

[Reep]

It's not that easy to climb onto top tier.
Maybe if the Spurs preferred CJ over DeRozan which is unlikely... Pritchard also seemed to be too biased to trade PG for CJ.

Right now i feel as if the train has passed. The build is too weak and too flawed in order to soar high enough and Dame is approaching 30 with a supermax contract in sight.

The fan in me wants to see Dame in rip city forever, even after his retirement, but it makes more sense to rebuild.

The plan seems to be to give it until 2020, which means one more summer of trying something. If that doesn't do it then you have to blow it up.

FWIW, I don't disagree with you about the fading options. The odds of pulling something out are declining by the day. You could keep the young players, develop the bigs while accumulating talent through the draft.

Keep: Simons, Trent, Layman, Collins, Nurkic, Skal and pull in a load of draft picks and young players for Dame and CJ and start over. That would give you a couple years to let the bigs mature and retool. You can't do anything at this point until this summer, but if they can't move CJ for a needle mover then I wouldn't mind seeing Dame moved somewhere he could win.