A Car That Runs on Compressed Air

[BLAZER PROPHET]

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_328_29397.php


ABM sent this to me. I found it pretty interesting for new technology.

 

[Denny Crane]

Where is ABM?

 

[julius]

Where is ABM?

Hm..ABM can't post?

Mixum is suspended?

You do the math!!

 

[Denny Crane]

Hm..ABM can't post?

Mixum is suspended?

You do the math!!

I always wondered what the "M" in ABM stood for!

I hope he's ok.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Where is ABM?

I'm not at liberty to say. Let's just say he's currently pursuing other hobbies and let it go at that.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I always wondered what the "M" in ABM stood for!

I hope he's ok.

He's fine, overall. ABM = Atlanta Blazer Man

 

[Colonel Ronan]

I'm not at liberty to say. Let's just say he's currently pursuing other hobbies and let it go at that.

Does that mean he is beatin' the pussy up?

 

[tlongII]

Did he go back to Hawaii to chase after that hula girl?

 

[Natebishop3]

Didn't ABM lead the last migration? Maybe he found green pastures elsewhere...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Back on topic--this is pretty cool. 180 miles between refuel stops, which cost about $2 a pop. I wonder if it would be possible to refill it with your own air compressor at home, or how long it would take for someone to develop the necessary attachment. And unlike hybrids or electrics, it apparently costs a lot less than a regular car (just over 8 grand).

Don't know how I feel about "a tubular chassis that is glued, not welded, and a body of fiberglass" though. I'd hate to have my chassis fall apart in the middle of my commute.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Back on topic--this is pretty cool. 180 miles between refuel stops, which cost about $2 a pop. I wonder if it would be possible to refill it with your own air compressor at home, or how long it would take for someone to develop the necessary attachment. And unlike hybrids or electrics, it apparently costs a lot less than a regular car (just over 8 grand).

Don't know how I feel about "a tubular chassis that is glued, not welded, and a body of fiberglass" though. I'd hate to have my chassis fall apart in the middle of my commute.

that would definitely be a downer on the day

 

[Rodolfo]

The last :30 sounds like a story from the Onion.
[video=youtube;ztFDqcu8oJ4]

 

[Natebishop3]

I would seriously consider something like this for driving short distances. The city of Portland is trying to move towards "20 minute neighborhoods" and "walkability" so a car that can drive 180 miles before it's next refuel could last a long time before you had to worry about getting more air. I doubt there would be any places to refuel around here, but it says it has a compressor that could refuel the car in 3-4 hours so as long as you stayed on top of it, you wouldn't need to worry about running out of air while on the road.

Depending on how well it's manufactured, I think the fiberglass and glue could be completely fine, unless you're hit by another car.... that could go bad.

 

[TripTango]

I've been casually following news about the air car for years, but I have yet to see anything definitive. Lots of prototype descriptions and plans for release, but never any real-world, road-tested statistics. Light analysis of the numbers also makes me pretty skeptical that we'll see anything like the optimistic ranges that some of those news articles post. So far, I'd call it an interesting idea with lots of technical obstacles.

 

[Klinky]

The last :30 sounds like a story from the Onion.
[video=youtube;ztFDqcu8oJ4]

Wow, who ever wrote those last 30 seconds needs a retard of the year award or maybe a promotion over at Popular Science.

This car does nothing to solve our energy problems. You still have to generate the energy to compress the air from somewhere & you have the dangers of a highly pressurized containment vessel on board that you probably wouldn't want to rupture in the event of a crash. It's novel, but probably doesn't meet crash safety standards & would have poor mileage if it did. Perhaps it could be a better alternative to hydrogen which not only has to be generated, but then compressed into a containment vessel. Let's just compress the nitrogen & oxygen around us...

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

This car does nothing to solve our energy problems.

That's a retarded answer.

Every, and I mean every new technology starts somewhere. It's rarely safe. But it gets made better and better and then better again until it does become something such that new technology does address energy concerns.

Holy crap, if everyone thought like you we'd have no electricity, wind power, wave power... nothing. We'd be taking dumps out back behind the cave.

 

[julius]

That's a retarded answer.

Every, and I mean every new technology starts somewhere. It's rarely safe. But it gets made better and better and then better again until it does become something such that new technology does address energy concerns.

Holy crap, if everyone thought like you we'd have no electricity, wind power, wave power... nothing. We'd be taking dumps out back behind the cave.

Where else are you supposed to take dumps?

 

[barfo]

I'm not at liberty to say. Let's just say he's currently pursuing other hobbies and let it go at that.

He's doin' hard time, FAMS.

barfo

 

[blazerboy30]

That's a retarded answer.

Every, and I mean every new technology starts somewhere. It's rarely safe. But it gets made better and better and then better again until it does become something such that new technology does address energy concerns.

Holy crap, if everyone thought like you we'd have no electricity, wind power, wave power... nothing. We'd be taking dumps out back behind the cave.

That's a retarded rant.

There are some "technologies" which just won't help due to little things called physics and thermodynamics. Is this air-powered-car one of those? I haven't even given a look at rough numbers, but it very well could fall into that category.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

That's a retarded rant.

There are some "technologies" which just won't help due to little things called physics and thermodynamics. Is this air-powered-car one of those? I haven't even given a look at rough numbers, but it very well could fall into that category.

I would think a vehicle with zero emissions and the capability to be nearly 100% self sufficient and the 'cleanest' vehicle on the planet is worth investing some time and money into.

But that's just me.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

OK, ABM is not in jail (although with him I'd never rule that out), he's not doing anything illegal (yet), he hasn't found a new board (rats!). He just has a new hobby I can't talk about that is taking up most of his spare time. Will he be back like he was. I hope so, but that may not happen for quite a while.

 

[blazerboy30]

I would think a vehicle with zero emissions and the capability to be nearly 100% self sufficient and the 'cleanest' vehicle on the planet is worth investing some time and money into.

But that's just me.

Are you considering the entire system? Many of these technologies can just be a matter of creative accounting. The air doesn't just compress itself. That takes energy. Not only does it take energy, you have to do an inefficient conversion. Electric vehicles don't even have that issue.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "100% self sufficient". What does that mean in this context?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Are you considering the entire system? Many of these technologies can just be a matter of creative accounting. The air doesn't just compress itself. That takes energy. Not only does it take energy, you have to do an inefficient conversion. Electric vehicles don't even have that issue.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "100% self sufficient". What does that mean in this context?

What I mean is this:

Compressed air vehicles currently have the capability to be the cheapest and less emissioned vehicle. The oil it uses is vegetable oil. Granted, at present they are not safe and something has to be worked out with the compressor. But the potential is far better than electric cars with the mercury batteries or hydrogen vehicles. As such, I think it warrants serious consideration for further development. Imagine a vehicle that creates it's own compressed air while one drives it's own compressed air. Hey, if Al Gore can invent the internet, then this technology can be advanced!










ok, that last line was a bit much...

 

[barfo]

OK, ABM is not in jail (although with him I'd never rule that out), he's not doing anything illegal (yet), he hasn't found a new board (rats!). He just has a new hobby I can't talk about that is taking up most of his spare time. Will he be back like he was. I hope so, but that may not happen for quite a while.

Masturbation doesn't really count as a "new hobby" at his age.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

Masturbation doesn't really count as a "new hobby" at his age.

barfo

Maybe he changed hands

 

[mook]

We'll need to create a new global energy strategy that involves invading countries with huge reserves of air.

 

[Klinky]

Imagine a vehicle that creates it's own compressed air while one drives it's own compressed air.

Seriously dude that's not possible. The video was completely wrong in what they said & actually goes against the laws of thermodynamics(and no, these people haven't found a way around those laws). The generator they talk about is essentially a compressed air engine hooked up to an alternator which produces electricity, not more compressed air. Since the generator is essentially the same thing as the car engine, they both run on compressed air making the whole perpetual motion idea stupid to begin with, even if you want to ignore thermodynamics.

As I said, this is a car that runs off of a novel way to store energy(for a car). There are pretty big energy losses taking a fuel or electricity and converting it to compressed air stored in a tank. That energy has to come from somewhere e.g. bio-diesel, gas OR electricity(coal, natural gas, hydro, nuclear, solar, wind farm, fart power...).

 

[Denny Crane]

Seriously dude that's not possible. The video was completely wrong in what they said & actually goes against the laws of thermodynamics(and no, these people haven't found a way around those laws). The generator they talk about is essentially a compressed air engine hooked up to an alternator which produces electricity, not more compressed air. Since the generator is essentially the same thing as the car engine, they both run on compressed air making the whole perpetual motion idea stupid to begin with, even if you want to ignore thermodynamics.

As I said, this is a car that runs off of a novel way to store energy(for a car). There are pretty big energy losses taking a fuel or electricity and converting it to compressed air stored in a tank. That energy has to come from somewhere e.g. bio-diesel, gas OR electricity(coal, natural gas, hydro, nuclear, solar, wind farm, fart power...).

barf power and we're talking goodness.

 

[Sug]

Seriously dude that's not possible. The video was completely wrong in what they said & actually goes against the laws of thermodynamics(and no, these people haven't found a way around those laws). The generator they talk about is essentially a compressed air engine hooked up to an alternator which produces electricity, not more compressed air. Since the generator is essentially the same thing as the car engine, they both run on compressed air making the whole perpetual motion idea stupid to begin with, even if you want to ignore thermodynamics.

As I said, this is a car that runs off of a novel way to store energy(for a car). There are pretty big energy losses taking a fuel or electricity and converting it to compressed air stored in a tank. That energy has to come from somewhere e.g. bio-diesel, gas OR electricity(coal, natural gas, hydro, nuclear, solar, wind farm, fart power...).

What if it was charged by solar power? For instance you have your car charge all day in the light and only drive it to and from work? At that point wouldn't it be essentially a self-sufficient vehicle that runs on solar, electricity, and air?

 

[jlprk]

What's this email rumor I got that ABM died when his compressed air car compressed? How do those things get blown up anyway? Do you blow them up like a balloon? Like an inflatable float in a swimming pool. Why not just use jet power from the escaping air? No need to convert compressed air to piston power. They could name it the pssstmobile.