A damning picture

[maxiep]

Native Americans?

Asian land bridge. That's why I don't call them "native" Americans.

 

[blazerboy30]

our advantage is a magical idea that means nothing? because we have alot of immigrants means america is innovative? it really sounds like a load of shit, maybe you should run for office though, its a nice story i mean are you saying that americans are born with the "innovation gene"?

are we even in the top 20 education wise anymore? because i would say that that would be more indicative of innovation than immigrants

I can't figure out what you're arguing.

Do you disagree that America is and has been more innovative (yes, there are many different ways to quantify innovative) than the rest of the world?

Or, are you disagreeing with the statement that the innovation is a result of the combination of our university system and cultural system?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

america - guts, hustle and faith



thatll save us

 

[MARIS61]

Native Americans?

barfo

They came here, presumably for the same reason, and they're no more "native" than you or I.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

umm, everyone knows native americans are jews that were cursed with dark skin for being evil and not following christ

 

[blazerboy30]

america - guts, hustle and faith



thatll save us

You don't want to actually answer a question?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

are you another one of these "we innovate because we are innovators!11!!" types? hustle and grit built america! and we still have it! sweat and steel and book learnin'! bed bath and beyond!

our "culture", which all of you high waisted types are so quick to spout about, is of welfare and lazyness, right?

you want it both ways? TOUGH.

 

[barfo]

Asian land bridge. That's why I don't call them "native" Americans.

Right... so when you said

It's cultural. We're a country unique in the world. Other than slaves, everyone else's ancestors came here looking for a better life.

How does that make us unique, exactly? Wouldn't that be true of every country?

Didn't the non-slave ancestors of, say, the Russians go there looking for a better life?

Well, ok, Australia might be an exception, prisoners are neither slaves nor looking for a better life.

barfo

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Well, ok, Australia might be an exception, prisoners are neither slaves nor looking for a better life.

barfo

well, they ARE slaves, at least in most of america that is

 

[blazerboy30]

are you another one of these "we innovate because we are innovators!11!!" types? hustle and grit built america! and we still have it! sweat and steel and book learnin'! bed bath and beyond!

our "culture", which all of you high waisted types are so quick to spout about, is of welfare and lazyness, right?

you want it both ways? TOUGH.

Do you want to keep ignoring my question?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i disagree with both obviously, your question is a double ended fist dildo

 

[blazerboy30]

i disagree with both obviously, your question is a double ended fist dildo

So you don't think American leads the world with respect to innovation and technology advancement?

 

[Eastoff]

I can't figure out what you're arguing.

Do you disagree that America is and has been more innovative (yes, there are many different ways to quantify innovative) than the rest of the world?

Or, are you disagreeing with the statement that the innovation is a result of the combination of our university system and cultural system?

We got some german jews to build our rockets. The middle east invented zero and calculus along with the europeans. The list goes on, but you get the point. It depend on how recent you want to be with "innovative"

 

[blazerboy30]

We got some german jews to build our rockets. The middle east invented zero and calculus along with the europeans. The list goes on, but you get the point. It depend on how recent you want to be with "innovative"

Damn... I didn't know America even existed when "zero and calculus" were invented. Clearly we should go back to a time period before America existed. Good point.

 

[Eastoff]

Damn... I didn't know America even existed when "zero and calculus" were invented. Clearly we should go back to a time period before America existed. Good point.

A majority of our concepts of liberty and freedom came from the french, did they not?

 

[Denny Crane]

John Locke was English.

 

[blazerboy30]

A majority of our concepts of liberty and freedom came from the french, did they not?

I'm dense. What's your point?

 

[RR7]

I'm dense. What's your point?

Density. Ancient greece. not american.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

no! americans have grit and hustle! and it will alwas be this way because of our culture! :MARIS61:

america is good at marketing garbage that people dont need, to people who cant afford it, yay us

 

[Eastoff]

I'm dense. What's your point?

My point is that we depend on a lot of non-american things.

 

[blazerboy30]

no! americans have grit and hustle! and it will alwas be this way because of our culture! :MARIS61:

america is good at marketing garbage that people dont need, to people who cant afford it, yay us

Oh dear. Yeah, those silly people don't need prescription drugs, for example

Don't let the facts get in the way of one of your dildo rants.

 

[blazerboy30]

My point is that we depend on a lot of non-american things.

How does that support or rebut the assertion that America leads the world with respect to innovation and technological advances?

 

[maxiep]

My point is that we depend on a lot of non-american things.

You got it! We take the best from around the world and make it American.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

American culture sucks

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yeah, those silly people don't need prescription drugs...

american innovation! pump our kids full of sugar and caffeine and then get them hooked on medication because they are too hyper! grit and hustle!

by and large, the prescription drug companies are horrible beasts that have a rooted interest in keeping america sick or making us believe we are, in order to sell us medication from the cradle to the grave

american innovation at its finest

 

[jlprk]

I have no idea whether, per capita, the U.S. leads in subjectively measured areas like innovation. I do know that intelligence agencies influence awards like the the Nobel, so those stats count for nothing.

I also have no idea how it affects the premise of this thread, which is the false history of the Reagan era that Denny and Maxiep like to push on everyone who wasn't working then.

But I do know that even if the U.S. does lead in innovation or technology, it's because resources are allocated differently from other countries. This country doesn't care about health care for everyone, or jobs for everyone, or an easy life with many days off from guaranteed work. Instead, the money is put into "innovation and technology" (especially military) at the expense of happiness, personal security, and standard of living. The millions of homeless aren't impressed with innovation and technology.

 

[ehizzy3]

American culture sucks

I have to cautiously agree with this, mostly because I haven't experienced other cultures.

How can someone define "American Culture" besides being innovators (lol sounds like something straight from my mothers mouth)

 

[jlprk]

How does that support or rebut the assertion that America leads the world with respect to innovation and technological advances?

In various categories within innovation of new medicines, the U.S. ranks 10th, 22nd, 4th, and 2nd-last among countries.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlec...-innovate-is-americas-greatest-global-threat/

 

[blazerboy30]

I have to cautiously agree with this, mostly because I haven't experienced other cultures.

How can someone define "American Culture" besides being innovators (lol sounds like something straight from my mothers mouth)

How can anybody "define" any culture?

 

[blazerboy30]

In various categories within innovation of new medicines, the U.S. ranks 10th, 22nd, 4th, and 2nd-last among countries.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlec...-innovate-is-americas-greatest-global-threat/

And less than a decade ago, the U.S. was ranked higher. Hmmmmm. Your own article even states that is has long been assumed that the U.S. has been the leader in technological advancement.