A dent in Woj's armor

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Remember the big Stein story about Aldridge leaving that we all trashed? Well, Woj was clearly on board with trashing Stein and was the guy who pointedly pushed "the Blazers are right there still, despite what other LOSERS are telling you" line.

Turns out, Stein was right, Woj was wrong.
 
Remember the big Stein story about Aldridge leaving that we all trashed? Well, Woj was clearly on board with trashing Stein and was the guy who pointedly pushed "the Blazers are right there still, despite what other LOSERS are telling you" line.

Turns out, Stein was right, Woj was wrong.

Woj made sure to hedge his bets; I don't see how us not getting LMA back makes Woj wrong about anything.
 
Remember the big Stein story about Aldridge leaving that we all trashed? Well, Woj was clearly on board with trashing Stein and was the guy who pointedly pushed "the Blazers are right there still, despite what other LOSERS are telling you" line.

Turns out, Stein was right, Woj was wrong.

Woj has the best sources in the NBA. I'm guessing he knows who Stein's sources are. Who was the first to announce that LMA was signing with the Spurs today? It wasn't Stein.
 
Olshey is one of Woj's biggest sources for info...look at ALL of his tweets involving PDX/Aldridge. Every single of his tweets about us are put in a positive light.
 
Olshey is one of Woj's biggest sources for info...look at ALL of his tweets involving PDX/Aldridge. Every single of his tweets about us are put in a positive light.

Are you taking an educated guess? Or do you know something?
 
Are you taking an educated guess? Or do you know something?
I've heard from a couple different sources that they have a friendly relationship. Look at the past weeks tweets involving the Blazers, his article at the beginning of FA about LA and the Blazers, and then also his tweet today about the Blazers being in great position to rebuild--have you seen him do that for any other team? I can't in recent memory.

I haven't heard it from Olshey himself, but I've heard from people I trust that he does feed him quite a bit, and if you look at the evidence it's pretty clear, IMO.
 
I've heard from a couple different sources that they have a friendly relationship. Look at the past weeks tweets involving the Blazers, his article at the beginning of FA about LA and the Blazers, and then also his tweet today about the Blazers being in great position to rebuild--have you seen him do that for any other team? I can't in recent memory.

I haven't heard it from Olshey himself, but I've heard from people I trust that he does feed him quite a bit, and if you look at the evidence it's pretty clear, IMO.
Sauces...

Lol
 
Too many of you have bought into Canzamo and his evil spin mindset. Sad really. Even Stein said it was down to Blazers, Sun's and Spurs. I have yet to see Woj tweet something unless it was right. He thrives on his credibility.
 
Too many of you have bought into Canzamo and his evil spin mindset. Sad really. Even Stein said it was down to Blazers, Sun's and Spurs. I have yet to see Woj tweet something unless it was right. He thrives on his credibility.
Exactly!!! The #TinFoilHatBrigade is in full force this morning
 
Theory as to why Hughes was fired. It may be that we had Monroe all but locked up on the premise that Lamarcus would be back if we also had Greg.... Monroe and his agent hear Hughes comment and dig a little deeper, find out that Lamarcus isn't 100% decided yet, do they back out to go to a team that is already set. In this theory we may have been able to convince Lamarcus to stay as well. By Hughes flapping his gums we may have lost bo th Monroe and Aldridge, totally screwing over our plans.
 
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About... nothing?
It was absolutely something. Regardless if it was true or not, he opened his mouth and it hurt what we planned in FA. The ripple effect of the dumb fuck could cost the Blazers in ticket sales, corporate advertisement and team moral.

A smart man would keep their mouth shut, knowing they signed a "non disclosure" the moment they were hired. Sucks that he's a fucking idiot, but he may learn on his next job, that is, if a teams stupid enough to hire a gossip queen.
 
If the franchise knew 100% that Lamarcus wasn't coming back at that point in time they would have fine Hughes not fired him. I think it is apparent that the Blazers found his comments detrimental to their ability to conduct business.
 
I've heard from a couple different sources that they have a friendly relationship. Look at the past weeks tweets involving the Blazers, his article at the beginning of FA about LA and the Blazers, and then also his tweet today about the Blazers being in great position to rebuild--have you seen him do that for any other team? I can't in recent memory.

I haven't heard it from Olshey himself, but I've heard from people I trust that he does feed him quite a bit, and if you look at the evidence it's pretty clear, IMO.
Didn't something similar regarding the Bulls FO come out last year about him as well?

His sources require favours.
 
Theory as to why Hughes was fired. It may be that we had Monroe all but locked up on the premise that Lamarcus would be back if we also had Greg.... Monroe and his agent hear Hughes comment and dig a little deeper, find out that Lamarcus isn't 100% decided yet, do they back out to go to a team that is already set. In this theory we may have been able to convince Lamarcus to stay as well. By Hughes flapping his gums we may have lost bo th Monroe and Aldridge, totally screwing over our plans.

That wouldn't get you fired, it would get you killed.
 
If the franchise knew 100% that Lamarcus wasn't coming back at that point in time they would have fine Hughes not fired him. I think it is apparent that the Blazers found his comments detrimental to their ability to conduct business.
Nah. The Vulcans have long had a reactionary, paranoid streak. They don't like anything that breaks message. All violators will be executed!
 
Like any other major corporation.
Perhaps. But are you really disputing that the Vulcan has a weird, overbearing reputation? But it brings up a good point, Having a "major corporation" running your basketball operation instead of basketball people is probably kind of a stupid way to go.
 
Perhaps. But are you really disputing that the Vulcan has a weird, overbearing reputation? But it brings up a good point, Having a "major corporation" running your basketball operation instead of basketball people is probably kind of a stupid way to go.
Every team are major corporations bro.

And yes, the Vulcans, especially in early 2000 were hard to agree with. But in this case, they were justified with firing him. They should black list him too.
 
Who is the moron who told Hughes the state secret that Aldridge definitely wouldn't be back? The same GM who fired him? Why would an assistant coach know such a secret?
 
Sauces...

Lol

Didn't something similar regarding the Bulls FO come out last year about him as well?

His sources require favours.

I think it was Dumars in Detroit.

It was a classic Wojnarowski story: a news “scoop” of dubious value followed by a news scoop of real value, and a rare compliment given to the man involved in both. (Wojnarowski declined to comment on this episode, or anything else in the piece. A Yahoo spokesperson provided this statement: “The depth and quality of Adrian's coverage of the NBA for Yahoo Sports over the past eight years has been unparalleled. We are fortunate to have him on our team.”) But to truly understand how Wojnarowski and his sources operate, there is no better place to look than his relationship with Joe Dumars, who worked as the Detroit Pistons president of basketball operations from 2000 to 2014.

Dumars was very successful for the first half of his executive career, assembling teams that won an NBA Championship and reached six consecutive Eastern Conference Finals. During his final six years in Detroit however—before he “stepped down” instead of being fired—the Pistons were one of the worst teams in the league, largely because of a series of disastrous decisions Dumars made. You would never know about it, though, if you read only Wojnarowski for your Pistons coverage.

With Detroit sliding down the standings, Wojnarowski broke nearly every significant—and insignificant—Pistons story for a half-decade: the Allen Iverson trade, the Amir Johnson trade, drafting Austin Daye, signing Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva, hiring John Kuester, trading Aaron Afflalo, signing Chris Wilcox, signing Ben Wallace, drafting Greg Monroe, signing Tracy McGrady, Rip Hamilton arguing with John Kuester, drafting Brandon Knight, hiring Lawrence Frank, re-signing Tayshuan Prince, re-signing Rodney Stuckey, trading Ben Gordon, signing Josh Smith, signing Chauncey Billups, signing Brandon Jennings, signing Josh Harrellson, and firing Mo Cheeks. While Wojnarowski was busy breaking news about the team, he wasn’t busy analyzing it: Between 2008 and 2012, Wojnarowski didn’t write a negative piece about Dumars or the Pistons, despite the fact that they had transformed from a perennial contender to an also-ran. Instead, Wojnarowski penned several sympathetic profiles of Dumars, including ones that covered his completion of his college degree and another wholly about his defensive skills as a player in the 1980s.

By 2012, Wojnarowski could no longer ignore how poorly Dumars was performing, so he wrote a piece on the Pistons’ rebuilding. It included heavy participation from Dumars and unearned optimism like “Slowly, surely, Dumars is regenerating the Pistons again.” In each of the two seasons after the piece ran, the Pistons went 29–53 and missed qualifying for the playoffs by nine games. It also emphasized Dumars’ strong relationship with coach Lawrence Frank, “who has returned accountability to the locker room.” Dumars would fire Frank six months later.

In 2010, the NBA fined Dumars $500,000 for leaking multiple confidential league memos to Wojnarowski, according to multiple sources. This matches the third largest publicly known fine the league has ever handed down. The NBA decided that too many memos were making it into the media, so they conducted a sting operation over several months. They would change a few words or numbers in different team’s copies of otherwise identical memos, so that when the memos leaked they could spot the small differences and trace them back to the leaker. This approach caught Dumars red-handed, as well as an executive from another team who was fined $12,500 for leaking to a draft-focused website. Joe Dumars, the Detroit Pistons, and the NBA all declined to comment on the fine.

Please tell me this does not sound exactly like what he is doing with PDX over the last year or two...

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/...basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops
 
Every team are major corporations bro.

And yes, the Vulcans, especially in early 2000 were hard to agree with. But in this case, they were justified with firing him. They should black list him too.

:smiley-bonk:
 
Who is the moron who told Hughes the state secret that Aldridge definitely wouldn't be back? The same GM who fired him? Why would an assistant coach know such a secret?

OMYGAWD! It couldn't have been LaMarsha himself could it?

Or maybe it never was a "secret" to begin with.
 
OMYGAWD! It couldn't have been LaMarsha himself could it?

Or maybe it never was a "secret" to begin with.
Listen to Hughes again in that clip. He's so non-chalant and matter-of-fact; as if he were pointing out that water is wet and the sky appears blue. This was no secret, he got fired for not maintaining the illusion that the team didn't know . . . else that raises some serious competency issues about Neil and his grand plan.
 
Listen to Hughes again in that clip. He's so non-chalant and matter-of-fact; as if he were pointing out that water is wet and the sky appears blue. This was no secret, he got fired for not maintaining the illusion that the team didn't know . . . else that raises some serious competency issues about Neil and his grand plan.

I thought that at first as well. But for him to be so oblivious to what was said during the the press conference the night before.....seems hard to believe. I mean we all knew what Neil said. How could he not?
 

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